Analysis for 19th & 20th + Debate : Sister/Wife

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Misty

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Posted: 16 years ago

Adab, Sasrikyal, Pranam... How are you guys doing today? I hope you are guys are doing good because I sure aint.

Is it really Kis Desh, that I am watching these days..**splashes water on the face** because I sure think I am watching some saas bahu .

Bouqet : I love the relationship they are showing between preet and meher. The understanding level that exists between two friends, two ppl who are bound in a relationship and who understand and most importantly compliment each other from the heart.

Brickbat : Arent Prem & Heer suppposed to be a newly married couple and dont newly married enjoy marital bliss and romance

Bouqet : but then marriage also means commitmemt and responsibility and I think that aspect is being highlighted in the prem-heer, preet-meher marriage

Brickbat : Whats with Prem & Heer. Today, for the first time, I thought they werent premeer. They were just prem & heer. Two separate individuals - Where has the one ness gone?

Brickbat : Can a person really change so much that he/she fail to remember what their essence is. Can they really change so much, that the lose fous and lose touch with their own essence and soul?So is this what kis desh is teaching us - Only look up to see where you want to go but never look down to see where you have from home?

Brickbat : Why the hell is prem not working as yet...and when are we going to see the three brothers working together... Preet & Harman were the right and left arms of prem. Whatever happpenned to that.

Brickbat : Didnt Ashlesha have the house properties which were given to her by Rishabh. If she is so positive, then why the hell has she not given the property papers back to the Juneja's as yet?

Brickbat : Didnt the Junejas own Hotel Properties and didnt heer have a land in her name??? If I was the creatuve, I would have shown heer giving that land to the Juneja's to start life afresh and starting a new lease of life from that land....

Brickbat : Where the hell are the doves and jugni

Disbelief : Why the hell did Ashlesha smirk/smile when Prem replied that veera tum sahi thi, tum iske saath nahin jayogee.

Bouqet : Prems Dialogue - Main nahin badla, tumhare dekhna ka nazariya badal gaya hai.. why do i think that was hinted towards us. ??

Brickbat : Lalit as a father didnt say anything and was expressionless when veera comes home???

Bouqet : I can see where the creatives are coming from. I hope by showing this Nihaal angle of being responsible for preet losing his job, I hope they show us the one ness in premeer & meet in resolving this problem.

I really dont know where to put this... because I tried putting myself in Veera Shoes & In Heers Shoes and tried to figure out what I would have done, given the same scenario... could think of the right or wrong reaction.. I know, had I found that my husband was directly or indirectly responsible for my brother losing his job, I would be wild him with him, I would have fought with him, and I would have called my brother and probably apologized to him as well. But If I was the wife, and i got to know my brother in law lost his job because of my brother, I really dont know what I would have done.

Its such a realistic situation to be in right.... because veera is married into heers mayka and heer into veera's mayka. I really want to know, how the creatives will resolve this and how sensitively and realistically they handle this...

Hmn... I am pondering over the sister/wife debate. So shall we discuss that, if everyone is open for a healthy disussion.

So, If you were in Veera's & Heer's Place... how would you have reacted, given the same situatin, given the same scenario?and if you were Prem & Preet, what would you have done

Edited by mistyeyed_25 - 16 years ago

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Soaps1

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Posted: 16 years ago

The creatives of this show have lost it, i do not see any poinnt in bringing up the veera angle at this stage when Prem has just returned. The essence of the show is lost, Premeer are becoming just an ordinary couple

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Misty

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Soaps1
The creatives of this show have lost it, i do not see any poinnt in bringing up the veera angle at this stage when Prem has just returned. The essence of the show is lost, Premeer are becoming just an ordinary couple

No, that angle makes sense to me and I really want to know, how sensitively and realistically they handle this situation. Like Prem said, Problem kis ghar main nahin hote.... by showing this angle, they are showing problems in the family, and I really want to know how Prem & Heer resolve them together. Probably, that way we shall see the oneness??

Yep, Prem & Heer are becoming ordinary couples. I know the romance in lacking. May be they will just show prem & heer re discovering themselves and falling in love all over again by resolving these problems.

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Posted: 16 years ago

Premeer rediscovering their love? that so not makes sense to me...i mean isn''t it a couple already totally in love? Ready to do anything for eachother? This whole concept of them falling in love all over again just doesn't make sense.

I still think this was not the appropriate time to bring up this veera drama, when their have been so many holes in the story that are yet to be filled

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Posted: 16 years ago

I agree about Meet, but I disagree about Premeer not being one today. I thought they way they comforted each other was the old Premeer. I saw the old Prem and the old Heer, together. I also loved Prem for thinking rationally today. Again, I saw The Prem, who always thought things through, before acting.

About being newly wed, I do think we all have to remember that these 2 have promised each other that they will solve the family problems first. So, really, the distace between them is obviously to set some boundaries for themselves...

I also think we need to enjoy these days. I have waited forever (or at least for the past 5 months) to see Prem-Heer fighting to solve the family's problems TOGETHER like this. So, I'm happy with this track. I just wish for a few more romantic Premeer scenes.

About Veera's and Heer's situation, I think that Veera, as a character is way too immature and not ready for marriage, at all. So, coming out of her mouth, this whole sister/wife issue seems like a joke. I liked the way Prem subtly told her about this, and the way he told her that it takes two to break a relationship.

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Misty

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Soaps1
Premeer rediscovering their love? that so not makes sense to me...i mean isn''t it a couple already totally in love? Ready to do anything for eachother? This whole concept of them falling in love all over again just doesn't make sense.

I still think this was not the appropriate time to bring up this veera drama, when their have been so many holes in the story that are yet to be filled

So, when a couple is already in love, they resolve problems together and I guess thats what they are trying to show here through the Nihaal Angle. This is one angle, I hope, I dont ever have to face in my life because I will never want to go through this kashmakash in life. For on one hand will be my brother and on other my husband. One Hand will be a family, who is responsible for my birth, with whom, I have spent half of my life and on other hand, a family, of whom I am a part of now and with whom I have to spend the rest of my life.

For Prem : Its a question of his sister happiness, a sister he loves and then his wife. Think about it, its a very realistic situatin they are showing....and its a situation, all of us when married or unmarried, have had to face... I really want to see how they solve this....

I think its the creatives way of rediscovering the one ness - to give the creatives their due. Yes, they were already in love but I dont think, Prem has fully recovered or has recovered and does not want to remember?

Like, I saids before, we are impatient and we want answers, the editing sucks, the show has hit rock bottom and we are not happy with whatever they are showing us, because we are not satisfied.

P.S Creatives : Could you just start showing us flashbacks of some scenes....I know we are just supposed to assume something, but it will help our otherwise complicated brains, if you resolve our mystery through flashbaks

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Posted: 16 years ago

if iam in heer's place,acc to her character ,try to explain veera that nihaal is good(ie., impossible) and ask nihaal abt situation detaily and tell to prem

if iam in veera's place,then definitely i need a good slap bcoz she need a big and basic(ie which is good & which is bad) lesson to learn.

i think that, creatives may think that saas bahu like problems wiil make the trp rate high.

-😳sugi

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Misty

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: iqbalrox14
I agree about Meet, but I disagree about Premeer not being one today. I thought they way they comforted each other was the old Premeer. I saw the old Prem and the old Heer, together. I also loved Prem for thinking rationally today. Again, I saw The Prem, who always thought things through, before acting.

About being newly wed, I do think we all have to remember that these 2 have promised each other that they will solve the family problems first. So, really, the distace between them is obviously to set some boundaries for themselves...

I also think we need to enjoy these days. I have waited forever (or at least for the past 5 months) to see Prem-Heer fighting to solve the family's problems TOGETHER like this. So, I'm happy with this track. I just wish for a few more romantic Premeer scenes.

About Veera's and Heer's situation, I think that Veera, as a character is way too immature and not ready for marriage, at all. So, coming out of her mouth, this whole sister/wife issue seems like a joke. I liked the way Prem subtly told her about this, and the way he told her that it takes two to break a relationship.

I dont know, I think something was lacking Prem and Heers Relationship. They werent Premeer. They were just Prem & Heer. The holding of hands can be taken as a reassyurance from Prem to Heer that hes with her always. But the entire essence has been lacking, the soul of the two characters is lacking. At the end of they day, they are one soul. Well, I guess, we will have to see what Monday brings and I hope there is no editing goof ups. I hope the dialogues are good and I hope they dont saw prem & rr being hand in gloves with each other as that would be the end of kis desh for me forever.

Veera, Apart from being immature, is very ghammandi and proud. Her pride, ego ...her ahankar, her ghammandiness needs to take a beating. Thew poor kid will learn but the hard way.

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Misty

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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: sugi77

if iam in heer's place,acc to her character ,try to explain veera that nihaal is good(ie., impossible) and ask nihaal abt situation detaily and tell to prem

if iam in veera's place,then definitely i need a good slap bcoz she need a big and basic(ie which is good & which is bad) lesson to learn.

i think that, creatives may think that saas bahu like problems wiil make the trp rate high.

-😳sugi

Its not a saas bahu problem sugi. Its a very realistic problem. A saas bahu problem, which if it happens, I will stop watching the show will be extra marital affairs, falling in love out of marriage, agni pariksha, humshakal track, behroopiya trap...

Sigh, why cant they show heer and prem working together... that way we can see some romance

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-Bee-

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Posted: 16 years ago

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@ misty - I guess we've been disillusioned from the non-Premeer things Premeer have been doing (like both of them checking themselves in the mirror) for the past few days. Otherwise, over the last 2 weeks, the creatives have given us examples (like 13th feb, or their little terrace dinner), where it shows that they know what Premeer are. But, they made some mistakes, so they better get back to showing Prem-Heer-are-one again.

Btw, I did like the way they showed the relationship of Prem-Gayatri-Preet today. That scene was sooo cute.

Edited by iqbalrox14 - 16 years ago