wtf - 4 jan - happy new year!

Originally posted by: estee

didja know that in 1993, there were so few gray wolves left in the u.s. that they were put on the endangered species list? and didja know they were re-introduced in yellowstone n.p. in 1995 to help 'em survive. and didja know that the bush administration is considering passing a bill that allows anyone to shoot gray wolves on sight 'cause now they have grown to more than 1000 in number? which made me go wtf????

Uh yea, I knew that. We learned about it in science, in 7th grade. I still remember cuz it was the worst day of my life, and watching an hour long video on wolves made it worse. *sigh* But wow, i didn't know they were gonna get those wolves killed too know. Can't they just leave nature alone?

and then i thought: why am i thinking wtf!??! 'cause we all know that wtf stands for "weekend thought feature", right? hmmm, yet another puzzle 'bout my brain that i need to figure out.... 😆

Oh yea, we alll know wtf stands for weekend thought feature, but for some reason whever i say it in my head it turns out to weekend features thought, hmm.... your not the only one with brain problems then. 😆

'kay. got back late last night from a trip hopping to yellowstone n.p. (my ... um ... 3rd most favourite place on earth) to a gang's friend's cow-ranch in montana (which is a seriously surreal place deep in winter!) to we-party-in-freezing-cold-blasts-from-the-north sf for new years and then being allowed to drive for the first time in three months to get back home. other than being frozen all the time, which gave me a cold that wakes me up at 3am... it was a blast of a winter trip. my pcp who had better luck with holiday temperatures in hawaii (no, she didn't run into barak.. 😆) didn't let me tell her 'bout wolves. she wanted to get my opinion on hip-hop prem. prem? uh...hip-hop??... uh... my.. er ... heer's prem?? huh??? didn't we end with pirate-without-a-black-patch prem when i left? huh?? so thought i'd do a persona-wtf this time... 😆

I'm loving all the names everyone is coming up for Prem's new look. 🤣 There should be a hip-hop Heer for hip-hop Prem. Maybe after Prem remembers everything, Heer will forget everything and then she'll go hip-hop. 😆

(warning: i found out there was a lot to wtf. yeah, y'know what that means - this is gonna be long! hey! it's been .. weeks since i posted. i figure i earn the length of this one! 🤣) Ah yes it has been weeks since you posted! Did you ever say anything about Heer cutting her hands? I always wanted to know what you had to say about that. I'm gonna have to go hunt that down if you have. 🤔

* heer wtf: i loved that heer didn't figure it was prem who'd covered for her in her attempt to flee getting mehendi-ed by ratty.. (ew! gross! I know, what kind of a rasam is that? Prolly just another way of Ratpal trying to toruture Heer. And they never showed the Mehndi after that. 🤔) i totally loved that heer didn't accept that she'd seen prem in front of her at the dargah. You loved that? 😲 I was totally dissapointed by that. But now that you mention it, I think your right. I guess it shows another side of Heer's love, the denial part. Its kind of hard to explain, but I guess she's so caught up into "forgetting" Prem, she doesn't want to believe he comes infront of her anymore. but i must say the script-writers managed to pull a fast-one on me in the entire painter episode!! there must've been at least 10 good ways that heer could've discovered the painter -- giving her super-powers in that episode was totally pathetic! (super-powers: x-ray vision to see the signature, travelling back to the mahal at the speed of light to retrieve the old painting, managing to put her little paw-print on prem's face and yet fail to see it was prem's face..) Hehe, there were sooo many bloopers in that episode. It really makes me think if the creatives even look over the episode once. I think once is enough to fix those mistakes. so my wtf on heer is: she is so much in prem-denial -- how is she going to actually accept he is there right in front of her??! There's something I really want to see. The battle between her mind and heart when he will be standing right infront of her "Is he real?". Oh I want to see it so badly. (btw, i have an ag-wtf: why, oh why!? is ag standing around with her mouth open like women in brain-dead serials now??? why, why, why?? so wanted to reach in and lift her jaw to close her mouth!) I don't know, maybe she was hungry... and was waiting for a fly to fly in. Or that spider in the desert they showed on SBS to crawl in.

* prem wtf: 'kay. black-pirate-prem was cool. but since then...? that guy in the sleazy faux-leather jacket and egg-yolk yellow t-shirt made me want to grab him by the shoulders and scrub his head under the tap that heer was drinking water from! eeeeewwwwwww! but must admit: totally like the sneakers, dude! 😆 I thought the outfit was pretty cool, yea loved the sneakers. The only thing that bothered me was his hair, oh yea, I felt like washing all that gel out of his hair. Other than that, he looked pretty nice. It was a change to see. (btw, i have an hc-wtf too: does anyyone else think that hc's a lot more obsessed with his appearance now than with being prem? or is it just me? 😕 I was thinkin about that just yesterday! When hc entered the serial, he used to be so... simple. And now, he's so different. As if trying to impress someone. *ahem ahem* 😆)

seriously, am now very curious to see what they've planned for prem. other than the startling change in appearance (propah-prem in capris??! 🤣 I knoww! That killed it, and the sandals. He's out their to shock us all!), there is absolutely nothing i have found out 'bout who this guy is. oh, there is one thing! he apparently commissioned a painting of himself! He admires himself? Or he was testing the painter's skills, which were really bad. I swear, I can paint better than that. i thought that was really weird... he comes back, a wanderer who answers that he doesn't know where he's going. but he commissions a painting of himself??? ... and that too of him in prem's white shirt?? uh... how many ways can i say i'm confused? I guess the creatives themselves were confused. I think they changed the track somewhere between Prem entering. Gaurav is starting to scare me, what if he isn't as passionate as Prem? But today's SBS kind of gave me a reassurance.

* preet wtf: ooh, preet's sweet and gallant with meher, polite to ash, controlled with dirtchachi, prem-style-worshipful of his father, better-than-prem-careful of his mother, adored by his heer bhabhi, respectfully and regretfully unaccepting of his harman-bhai, preet-style-worshipful of his pb's coin ... uh.. are we sure prem's still ram in this story?? Yes! He's changed so much! Its a good thing, but not a good thing too. Because I liked it when he was naughty, mischievious, playful. Now he seems to stay more sober... and it makes me pity him all the time.

* meher wtf: oooooh! meher's dressing up to be worthy of preet's wife, clucking over him, smiling and caring of him, defending him in front of lalit juneja.. and all while being his best friend. Ah i find that to be adorable. are they .. uh .. sleeping together? Depends on which sleeping your talking about. 🤔 If your talking about the innocent one... then maybe, theirs nothing wrong with sharing a bed right? But since this is a serial, and its unacceptable for a women who doesn't know her husband to well to share a bed with him, their prolly not. for some strange reason, i really want to know!

* harman wtf: *sigh* he is trying, he really is! no, not to act. That made me let out a cackle. 😆 Which made my little sister flinch, since she's sleeping. 😆 but to help out. but it's only in the way that he knows. he respects. unfortunately, it ain't the "prem-way". Yea, I get what your saying. There's always the right way to do something and the wrong way to do something. Like if your sister's hungry, and she won't go to sleep until you make her macaroni and cheese. There's always the wrong way, where you can go force your older brother to go make it, or the right way where you can get up and make it yourself. Working hard and making the mac&cheese yourself would show that you have self respect, and making your brother do it for you would show that you don't. and so no-one's gonna understand, let alone accept it. poor harman. he's still ram's bharat. but he's gonna have to find better ways of helping out his family... (btw, i thought both preet&harman looked totally cool in their outfits at that silly felicitation - anyone agree? Yea! Preet's really evolved from his original look, but he looks really nice. I've liked him since the begginning of the serial. If Prem and Heer weren't here, I would probably still watch the show just for Preet. Err... Harman, didn't notice him as much... heh.)

* lalit juneja wtf: *sigh* nothing new here... he still has harman-mania, prem-mania, swinging violently between preet-appreciation and preet-unappreciation, treating kuldi's husband as his secy, talking enthusiastically to gayatri-mom and heer... the only seriously interesting twist on lalit-juneja was what the harman interaction showed. lalit juneja who just refused to forgive prem until he discovered that it wasn't prem but himself who was as wrong as hell? is this new attitude of forgiving harman trying to tell us that lalit-juneja has changed? and is more forgiving of beloved son's sins? hmm... then where does that leave his attitude with preet? don't know 'bout you, but it left me more resigned 'bout lalit juneja's inability to change more than confused. still the same old lalit juneja, even in the new year. *double sigh* You know what, he really does frustrate me. Whats his problem with Preet now? I mean Preet's done everything Lalit ever wanted one of his other sons to do. Why is he SO nice to Harman? What did Harman ever do for Lalit? I'm pretty sure Prem was a MUCH better son then Harman, they why forgive Harman so quickly, and not even think about it for Prem? Agh I feel like killing this buddha.

* gayatri-mom wtf!: 'kay! so what's with g-mom?? all i can remember clearly is her when heer returns home... didja see the way she casually strolls over to the sofa and sits in it?.. i dunno - that truly turned me off! 😕 and that scene at the "felicitation" made me frown. that was not a well-written scene. no way, g-mom would've subsided after that! the only way to have resolved that would've been for someone to take her home. heer should've taken her home... dunno. somehow i violently disliked how they ended her part in that scene... 🤢 I was hoping for more from that scene too. I mean, Gayatri's not even in denial... well she is, but she's not in denial of Prem's existance. She should have done something. Nah, Heer shoudn't have taken her home. Becuase if she did, then we won't be able to see that scene we're going to on mon/tues. Sbs was mentioning it, it was extrememly cute... but frustrating at the same time.

* kul-di, husband wtf: uh.. exactly why are these two hanging around here to be treated like dirt by dirtchachi? couldn't they play the loving supporting family from some where else? I don't like kul di's hubby, he needs to dissapear. He took my name. *crosses arms and pouts*

* veera wtf!!!: why oh why haven't they changed the script to have a blackhole suddenly turn up in her path through which she steps into another universe where there are no tv-serials through which we can see her? why?? if propah-prem can turn up in gel and capris 🤣 why can't vitchface fall through a blackhole??? You know I was wonding the same thing. Actually I was thinking why the dog Veera was being so nice to didn't bite her... why it didn't go rabid around her... Ooh and I bet hc was playing with that dog. Since he's fond of doggies.

* nihaal wtf: no real wtf except... he looks cuter in his longer hair setup. and nihaal's got a seriously cute smile... can you hit (i mean, physically hit!) someone with a smile? guess not. 'cause then shouldn't veera have been yelping in pain? seriously want to see vitchface in pain. the dirtchachi kind of a mother-feels-pain-of-her-children and worse kinda pain...😡 Aw. Yea he was looking nice. I started liking Nihaal's characted sometime ago, since he hasn't done anything against his character yet, now he's starting to look nice too. I want Veera to be gone... just vanish into thin air. Off the earth's surface. Arghh she makes me want to slap her...

* "two funny boys" wtf: hey! they are still there!! as quiet as always! seriously, who exactly are they supposed to be? don't their parents miss 'em? don't they have school to get back to? a job? no? they show up soooo consistently -- they have to have a real role, no? not just "two funny boys" in the show? Whenever I see them in the show, the same thing comes up in my head. There still there! Wow... They have nothing to say, yet their still their. The only scene with them actually doing something that I can remember is when Preet was playing football with the "mithai" when Heer brought it from the car and the whole Veera drama started. I think the creatives just thought the j-zoo wasn't big enough so they brought them in to fill the spaces.


remember an old wtf where i wondered why they always showed young-prem in glasses? but now-prem does not? *btw, did anyone else giggle when prem-in-monkey-cap Hey! I liked that cap... I thought he looked really cute in puuurrple. 😍 told his assistant that he should shift out of glasses into lenses? so reminded me of my what-happened-to-old-prem's-specs question!* or how young-prem was a rotund, weak-left-handed near-retard who couldn't pass exams? but now-prem is strong, with great strength in hands, feet, legs, eyes, you name it, he's got it... *damnit! focus estee! focus on the wtf! 😆* Prem's a hypocrite. 😆 Yea estee focus! Let us focus too... gonna make me start day dreaming!

*w&w: wait and watch, copyright smitha (sshekar)*

Yea.. just have to wait and watch now. Which is totally impossible to do when the creatives are making the track go by sooo slowly. I want to know so badly, but I don't want to wait... Ahh.. its so frustrating.

Originally posted by: riks1

reserved ....will come back and edit later.....

wishing a very happy new year to you too.....

Originally posted by: kimmu

I still remember cuz it was the worst day of my life, and watching an hour long video on wolves made it worse. *sigh* But wow, i didn't know they were gonna get those wolves killed too know. Can't they just leave nature alone?

i know! flip-flop attitude in just one decade less. i used to think that politicians in india were horrible 'cause they could be "persuaded" to change their mind with money. now i find that it's the same in the u.s. except you needs lots more money. what an awful world we live in if we can't tolerate other creatures, no?

Oh yea, we alll know wtf stands for weekend thought feature, but for some reason whever i say it in my head it turns out to weekend features thought, hmm.... your not the only one with brain problems then.

😆 that's an interesting twist - wft? that would actually be better -- wtf seems to cause some people to think something else altogether! 😆 hmmm. maybe i should do wft instead...

I'm loving all the names everyone is coming up for Prem's new look. 🤣 There should be a hip-hop Heer for hip-hop Prem. Maybe after Prem remembers everything, Heer will forget everything and then she'll go hip-hop. 😆

😆 other prem-names? what are...? and heer going hip-hop??!!! y'mean like ag?? for some reason that makes me want to raise my eyebrows a lot higher than i did for hip-hop prem..! 😆

Ah yes it has been weeks since you posted! Did you ever say anything about Heer cutting her hands? I always wanted to know what you had to say about that. I'm gonna have to go hunt that down if you have.

no, i was off -- and i didn't write anything 'bout heer deliberately messing up her hands. i thought that entire episode was ... strange. like a dream. only i couldn' t figure out who was dreaming? prem? heer? the creatives? it was all very stylistic. and beautiful. but somehow? it didn't make much sense... symbolically, it looked like heer hurting her hands was like ... simran (ddlj) hurting her fingers so that the boor wouldn't put an engagement ring on her? but somehow, i loved the deadly seriousness and sadness with which heer did it. she was so very desperate to escape any mark of ratpal on her. unlike all the other serials, where the heroine walks into a compromise situation with a bad guy, and accepts all the related ceremonies, heer accepts the compromise on the surface, but will compromise nothing that she believes involves a deeper relationship. heer is a fighter. always. just that she chooses even what she will fight on. i like heer - seriously. this female character desperately rocks.

You loved that? 😲 I was totally dissapointed by that. But now that you mention it, I think your right. I guess it shows another side of Heer's love, the denial part. Its kind of hard to explain, but I guess she's so caught up into "forgetting" Prem, she doesn't want to believe he comes infront of her anymore.

and y'know what i feel when i see this heer? i seriously feel like thumping prem on the upside of ...well every body part i can reach! i mean, i know that when heer was in "memory loss" mode, and i found out, i was really mad at her. but she was doing it for prem and somehow that made it okay. i don't know what prem's going through. but i still feel like hitting him 'cause heer has gone through soooo much! she had to put up with thinking he's dead - on the eve of their marriage and her b'day! she had to put up being strong for everyone. she had to comfort herself by dreaming he is still there. and now, she's with this ratpal-ravan who's threatening to substitute himself for prem - and she's having to fight to retain prem in her soul. without any hope of rescue! at least, prem had the hope of "building new memories" with heer when she was faking it. heer is totally alone just now! i seriously dislike prem just now.... 😡

There's something I really want to see. The battle between her mind and heart when he will be standing right infront of her "Is he real?". Oh I want to see it so badly.

😍 yeah... i used to think the best thing to dream 'bout would be how heer would "remind" prem of who he is. now, i'm dying to see heer "accept" prem's actually there.

btw, wanna confession? in an inadequate sleeping bag in the northern wilds of wyoming, i woke up one night totally wanting one thing: to hear prem say "heer" again. in that deep voice of his. with knowledge of her. with wanting her. like the deep voice that said "chor nahin. mein hoon." on 9/11. i still want to hear that... prem saying "heer".... 😍

I don't know, maybe she was hungry... and was waiting for a fly to fly in. Or that spider in the desert they showed on SBS to crawl in.

😆 kimmi... are you laughing at me??? 😆

The only thing that bothered me was his hair, oh yea, I felt like washing all that gel out of his hair.

change, yes. prem? dunno.. but am willing to w&w. but yeah, the gel. ew... reminded me of the coconut-oil slicked hair of guys in trains back home.... 😆.. prem's new avatar - coconut-oil southie cassanova? imagine prem saying "ennada?" 🤣

I was thinkin about that just yesterday! When hc entered the serial, he used to be so... simple. And now, he's so different. As if trying to impress someone. *ahem ahem* 😆)

😆 er..."ahem ahem what", kimz? or should that be "whom"? or should that be "whom other than heer"?

I guess the creatives themselves were confused. I think they changed the track somewhere between Prem entering. Gaurav is starting to scare me, what if he isn't as passionate as Prem? But today's SBS kind of gave me a reassurance.

isn't as passionate as prem? don't worry -- heer'll remind him. 😳 today's sbs?

Yes! He's changed so much! Its a good thing, but not a good thing too. Because I liked it when he was naughty, mischievious, playful. Now he seems to stay more sober... and it makes me pity him all the time.

actually, i thought i caught a glimpse of old preet in his expression after meher took his jacket away... i think it'll be easy to get old preet back..ish. i think with his pb back, a bit of old preet will be back. even with teasing his father.. *sigh* yet another reason to get

But since this is a serial, and its unacceptable for a women who doesn't know her husband to well to share a bed with him, their prolly not.

hmm... they're soo comfortable around each other though... no?

Yea, I get what your saying. There's always the right way to do something and the wrong way to do something. Working hard and making the mac&cheese yourself would show that you have self respect, and making your brother do it for you would show that you don't.

hmm. interesting analogy. don't have an older brother, so always had to do chores myself...

You know what, he really does frustrate me. Whats his problem with Preet now? I mean Preet's done everything Lalit ever wanted one of his other sons to do. Why is he SO nice to Harman?

*sigh* one of those things to accept without questioning? *double sigh* it was weird...

You know I was wonding the same thing. Actually I was thinking why the dog Veera was being so nice to didn't bite her... why it didn't go rabid around her... Ooh and I bet hc was playing with that dog. Since he's fond of doggies.

🤣 maybe we should put together the "top five ideas to get veera out of the show"? hc likes dogs?

Hey! I liked that cap... I thought he looked really cute in puuurrple.

the cap was nice. the shirt... uh... hmm. and say! d'you think we'll get a prem in shorts??? or will the creatives suddenly remember that the story's not set in bombay but in ludhiana?? 😆

Which is totally impossible to do when the creatives are making the track go by sooo slowly. I want to know so badly, but I don't want to wait... Ahh.. its so frustrating.

omg, i hate waiting too! *sigh* there goes all the disciplining that smitha's w&w was trying for... i want to know now too!

Originally posted by: estee

didja know that in 1993, there were so few gray wolves left in the u.s. that they were put on the endangered species list? and didja know they were re-introduced in yellowstone n.p. in 1995 to help 'em survive. and didja know that the bush administration is considering passing a bill that allows anyone to shoot gray wolves on sight 'cause now they have grown to more than 1000 in number? which made me go wtf????
Hey E!!! Happy new year and welcome back!! Good to know this information about the gray wolves....thank you...😃
* heer wtf: i loved that heer didn't figure it was prem who'd covered for her in her attempt to flee getting mehendi-ed by ratty.. (ew! gross!) i totally loved that heer didn't accept that she'd seen prem in front of her at the dargah. but i must say the script-writers managed to pull a fast-one on me in the entire painter episode!! there must've been at least 10 good ways that heer could've discovered the painter -- giving her super-powers in that episode was totally pathetic! (super-powers: x-ray vision to see the signature, travelling back to the mahal at the speed of light to retrieve the old painting, managing to put her little paw-print on prem's painting and still failing to see it was prem's painting..) so my wtf on heer is: she is so much in prem-denial -- how is she going to actually accept he is there right in front of her when he does come right in front of her??! (btw, i have an ag-wtf: why, oh why!? is ag standing around with her mouth open like women in brain-dead serials now??? why, why, why?? so wanted to reach out and lift her jaw to close her mouth shut!)
I have to agree that Heer has had good reason to think that all her Prem sightings are her imagination. But the dragging is kinda wearing thin...😒 Totally agree with you about the super powers..only explanation is Prem had them...and now since Prem and Heer are one...she has them...I got theories about how they were transferred....😆😆😆 the signature bit had me really going WTF!! (yeah, in caps) 😃 Don't even want to talk about her failing to see Prem's painting....

😆* prem wtf: 'kay. pirate-prem was cool. but after that prem..? that guy in the sleazy faux-leather jacket and egg-yolk yellow t-shirt made me want to grab him by the shoulders and scrub his head under the tap that heer was drinking water from! eeeeewwwwwww, hair gel!! but must admit: totally like the sneakers, dude! 😆(btw, i have an hc-wtf too: does anyyone else think that hc's a lot more obsessed with his appearance now than with being prem? or is it just me? 😕)
Ok....thank you!! I am not the only one going eeeewwwww about the hair gel!! His new look is just not doing it for me, E. U think I am crazy?? I mean, just thinking about those shirts...*thud*...sorry...Yep, I think HC is obsessing about his appearance...
seriously, am now very curious to see what they've planned for prem. other than the startling change in appearance (propah-prem in capris??! 🤣 um... so why not shorts??? 😆), there is absolutely nothing i have found out 'bout who this guy is. oh, wait, there is one thing! he apparently commissioned a painting of himself! i thought that was really weird... he comes back, a wanderer who answers that he doesn't know where he's going. but he commissions a painting of himself??? ... and that too of him in prem's white shirt?? and that too from ratpal's family portrait artist? uh.. in how many ways can i say i'm confused?
Me too...w&w....ok, those capris threw me off too....yeah, shorts would have been so much better. And what's with the cap??? I still can't get over it....*sigh* now I am obessing..
* preet wtf: ooh, preet's sweet and gallant with meher, polite to ash, controlled with dirtchachi, prem-style-worshipful of his father, better-than-prem-careful of his mother, adored by his heer bhabhi, respectfully and regretfully unaccepting of his harman-bhai, preet-style-worshipful of his pb's coin ... uh.. are we sure prem's still ram in this story??
True...Preet has truly become the new Prem...did that make sense? He is such a sweetie pie!! 😃
* meher wtf: oooooh! meher's dressing up to be worthy of preet's wife, clucking over him, smiling and caring of him, defending him in front of lalit juneja.. and all while being his best friend. are they .. uh .. sleeping together? for some strange reason, i really want to know!
E!! What kind of quesiton is that?? Er...no, I don't think they are....😆
* harman wtf: *sigh* he is trying, he really is! no, not to act. but to help his family out. but only in the way that he knows. that he respects. unfortunately, it ain't the "prem-way". and so no-one's gonna understand, let alone accept it. poor harman. he's still ram's bharat. but he's gonna have to find better ways of helping out his family... (btw, i thought both preet&harman looked totally cool in their outfits at that silly felicitation... seriously... 😍)
Harman has no clue...u still on about the bharat thing, eh? w&w...😃
* lalit juneja wtf: *sigh* nothing new here... he still has harman-mania, prem-mania, swinging violently between preet-appreciation and preet-unappreciation, treating kuldi's husband as his secy, talking enthusiastically to gayatri-mom and heer... the only seriously interesting twist on lalit-juneja was what the harman interaction showed. lalit juneja who absolutely refused to forgive prem until he discovered that it wasn't prem but himself who was as wrong as hell? is this new attitude of forgiving harman trying to tell us that lalit-juneja has changed? and is more forgiving of beloved son's sins? hmm... then where does that leave his attitude with preet? don't know 'bout you, but it left me more resigned 'bout lalit juneja's inability to change more than confused. still the same old lalit juneja, even in the new year. *double sigh*
Nah, I think that is just showing his bias about Harman....I seriously don't get it...Somehow, Harman has always been more of Lalit's than Prem or Preet (Prem was G-Mom's and Preet was Prem's)...make sense?? That's the only thing I could think of as to why he would behave like this...He has not changed.......
* gayatri-mom wtf!: 'kay! so what's with g-mom?? all i can remember clearly is her when heer returns home... didja see the way she casually strolls over to the sofa and sits in it?.. i dunno - that truly turned me off! 😕 and that scene at the "felicitation" made me frown. that was not a well-written scene. no way, g-mom would've subsided after that! the only way to have resolved that would've been for someone to take her home. heer should've taken her home... dunno. somehow i violently disliked how they ended her part in that scene... 🤢
Oooh, u picked that? Me too, me too...it did throw me off that she sat down and crossed her legs...silly thing I know, but that truly turned me off...!! Yeah, Heer should have taken her home...I agree with you totally!!
* kul-di, husband wtf: uh.. exactly why are these two hanging around here to be treated like dirt by dirtchachi? couldn't they play the loving supporting family from some where else?
No idea...
* veera wtf!!!: why oh why haven't they changed the script to have a blackhole suddenly turn up in her path through which she steps into another universe where there are no tv-serials through which we can see her? why?? if propah-prem can turn up in gel and capris 🤣 why can't vitchface fall through a blackhole???
I despise her....did u see she stole Heer's dress that Prem gave her?? I spaced out after that weird pose....😡
* nihaal wtf: no real wtf except... he looks cuter in his longer hair setup. and nihaal's got a seriously cute smile... can you hit (i mean, physically hit!) someone with a smile? guess not. 'cause then shouldn't veera have been yelping in pain? seriously want to see vitchface in pain. the dirtchachi kind of a mother-feels-pain-of-her-children and worse kinda pain...😡
I just feel sorry for Nihal....😲
* "two funny boys" wtf: hey! they are still there!! as quiet as always! seriously, who exactly are they supposed to be? don't their parents miss 'em? don't they have school to get back to? a job? no? they show up soooo consistently -- they have to have a real role, no? not just "two funny boys" in the show?
Varun and Harun...their names. Why have they not gone back to their parents than put up with this misery with dirtchachi...??
remember an old wtf where i wondered why they always showed young-prem in glasses? but now-prem does not? *btw, did anyone else giggle when prem-in-monkey-cap told his assistant that he should shift out of glasses into lenses? so reminded me of my what-happened-to-old-prem's-specs question!* or how young-prem was a rotund, weak-left-handed near-retard who couldn't pass exams? but now-prem is strong, with great strength in hands, feet, legs, eyes, you name it, he's got it... *damnit! focus estee! focus on the wtf! 😆*
Yes...so totally ROFL with the monkey-cap-Prem...
so who is this person who kodiyonpal used to tie shoelaces for same as ratty? did ratty have a fraternal twin? did that twin die 'cause of some accident and .. uh .. contributed to making now-prem as perfect as now-prem is? hmmm...! big wtf... big.. 😃 of course, considering i get nothing right 'bout this show, this is probably another one for the dust-heap of failed predictions too..... *sigh*
I have no clue...w&w....
well. 'cause this is the team that gave us prem-heer-are-one and 6/19-prem-heer and 9/11-prem-heer, i'm gonna keep the faith and w&w. even after they gelled prem and repeated that station-dupatta scene in a rather silly way.... i'm gonna keep w&w-ing. looks like it could be a very interesting new year. now if only barak will trash that open-season-on-gray-wolves bill...
*sig*...k, I'll keep the faith coz u said so...the train station scene was really silly...i was like, am i watching the same show...w&w....😉
Good to have you back...missed your posts!!
*w&w: wait and watch, copyright smitha (sshekar)*

Originally posted by: hope08

Happy new year to you too. Where have you been? I was thinking of starting a waiting for estee clock (just like WFP).

😆 oh, no, no wf clocks for ordinary mortals. mom and gang swung a surprise trip to make up for a hard sem and hard couple of months. for a trip that had me frozen for most part, it was totally awesome. 😃 well, except for the darned colds. i can't believe that all the pharma research in the world hasn't got us an instaneous cure for a cold.. 😡

Coming to your wtf the first thing i would like to say is the show is trying to recreate the old magic by copying the same scenes hence the dupatta scene. Actually I didn't like when they did it the first time and it wasn't any different now. I really don't get what these people are trying to show. On one hand they try very hard to show that this new guy is Prem and on the other hand they show that he is someone else who happens to look like Prem. I guess the creatives and script writers are still trying to figure out how they can combine the perfect prem with the new cool dude Gaurav.

well, i thought 'bout the current prem and here's what i figure: they really haven't told us very much, no? the only thing that i've kinda understood (in the last one hour at the forum actually 😆) is that prem-on-his-own is different from prem-in-a-group. in rajasthan, prem looked like he was on his own, meditating, searching for his soul. back "in ludhiana" (to his "normal" life, work, etc) he is projecting a different persona - one that fits his job? i gather he's one of a team of "event managers"? it seems a little silly to think that a photographer alone deals with the whole event management? so i think this is sloppy scripting from the creatives. just like they'd done sloppy scripting during the whole prem as businessman-of-the-year award event? 'kay, make that confused as heck! 😆 so i think of rajasthan prem as the "real" prem. he's back to "searching for his soul" -- and we don't yet know why. 'cause we don't yet know who he is? they haven't told us. in the crowd, he's "playing a role" -- of fitting in. 'course, all this is conjecture. waiting to hear what prem's current story is... where he's been? what happened between the day he was to get married and today. *sigh, but it certainly looks like my story of all this is happening while prem's still in the fire-situation is shot to little bits? double sigh*

btw, didn't you find there could be link between young prem wearing specs but mein-bhagwan-nehi-hoon prem not wearing specs to this prem telling one of his flunkies to get out of specs and into contacts?

The Heer and painter scene was very lame. They could have done it in a much better way. How in god's name did Heer get the painting? She never touched Prem's painting but her prints are over it. And what is Gaurav doing with the painter and when did he pose for him as Prem? The sweet and intense love story is now a thriller filled with questions and suspense.

😆 oh, totally. i was itching to have written that part of the script! even if i ignore the fact that the story went nowhere with that painter segment (didja notice? nowhere!) i could've done it better. how? i'm telling you -- in this episode, heer got superpowers! it explains everything -- well, except the last part where ratpal was able to drag her off. but then hey! lois lane never figured that clark was superman either. superman-heer was just being clarkkent-heer then... 🤣

I think the new creative can't quite get it as Vikas Gupta did it. I am not sure but I think the screenplay writers have also changed (by the way one of the scriptwriters name is Gaurav Sharma).

yeah, i noticed! the ego-maniac! giving prem his name! what a cheap attempt to gain fame and girls. 🤣

Heer, like Prem, changes from frame to frame. Her attitude changes from a detective to meek and submissive girl within seconds (remember how she;s a nancy drew in the painter's studio and turns all scared and helpless and lets RR drag her out).

see superman/clarkkent reference above... 🤣

I didn't quite get the Heer with lighter thing also. What was she feeling before she decided to go and wash her face?

i didn't get the lighter either until i figured that the young prem (who used to wear specs) got transplated with various body parts of ratpals' twin brother (that was the last part of the wtf -- i figure the reason why ratty wants revenge isn't sanjana but a "good" twin brother who died and gave lots of body parts to young prem. ergo, the switch from glasses-wearing prem to perfect prem? no? 🤣) and btw, i remember wanting to laugh like mad the first-time the dupatta-at-the-station scene happened. but getting my laughter stuck in my throat at the sheer beauty of prem lifting his damp face and the translucent cloth draping itself over it. and the look on heer's face when the cloth tugged her still. they were such different people then. and somehow... by the time i watched that scene, it didn't irritate. this time -- the execution was flawed. the gel was totally flawed!!! 🤣

Prem/Gaurav: So what's with the attitude? Prem/Gaurav has major chip on his shoulders. He is very money minded and too much of himself. Very unlike the sweet and perfect Prem. I don't think HC can pull off the cool dude as perfectly as the sweet Prem. Like you say he gets Prem perfectly but is not quite there in the Gaurav avtar. Will wait and see how he gets back to his Prem mode.

and i think prem is role-playing for the crowd that he is hanging around with. i wonder whether it's prem with a real-memory loss or a fake one (like heer's). 'cause if it's fake, then one has to wonder what his reason is. 'cause mein-bhagwan-nehi-hoon prem will have to have a very good reason, no?

Preet: Sweetest thing in the show. Said it before saying it again Sushant is a very good actor. They should give him more scenes than Harman/Manoj. No, Prem is still the Ram in this story. The one thing common between Preet and Lakshman are their undying love and devotion to their older brother.

yeah, he is good. and i agree with preet being lakshman. is just that i remember feeling ire at that phonecall prem made to heer before the blast -- he doesn't want to live if heer is not there? and i thought it was a very weak statement to make. if you love someone that much, nothing is too high a price for their happiness. then how can you hope to die before them -- if your death itself will make them unhappy? while preet? preet has never ever had such a thought. the way he has always behaved - with his pb there or not - is to fight for his mother's happiness, and ultimately his father's as well. remember how he consoled lalit juneja in the little hospital in ajmer? so still no disagreement 'bout prem as ram. i just think preet is somehow more noble...

Lalit: Nothing much to say but he is going to go all anti Heer as soon as he hears about her engagement. I have never seen Lalit pull up Harman. Guess what Preet used to say is true :dad loves Harman and mom loves Prem and nobody loves him".

*sigh* yeah, i think we're gonna have to see that.. so not looking forward to it..

RR: did you see the look he had when he was leaning against the pillar in the rly station? I don't think Sanjana was his sister. I think he loved her and she loved Prem. He seems too obsessed with revenge.

and the lighter is just a story-herring? or something that sanjana gifted him? hmm... that's a possibility... and the tune is something that she stole from prem. 'cause of course that is prem's tune!

What was with Heer running about the palace hiding from RR and cutting her hands. Wasn't it about mehendi then what happened to it?

they cancelled the mehendi 'cause of her hands being wounded?

Earlier only the editing was bad but now the creativity and screenplay has gone down. Following your path and waiting and watching. and most imp Welcome Back! waiting for your bt lt.

i still think they have the central theme of prem-heer-are-one and ravan-doesn't-win-against-ram-lakshman. and yeah, waiting to get their prem-heer finding each other again story back on track. waiting for the first time prem says "heer" again. *soooo waiting for that!* and hoping that i'm not wrong and that i get to write bt,lts. thanks for the welcome. even though i got to hear and see wolves, it's good to be back home. 😃