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Posted: 17 years ago
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note: wtf stands for weekend thoughts feature. i can't help it if you thought otherwise. 😊

i guess this weekend the only glaring thought is that prem could be no more. what is interesting here is how it has happened. and i wrote this in the bt,lt of 1 oct: the character of prem has been the victim of a totally random act!

1. think 'bout it: usually, there is a villain or a reason that the character is in danger. a brother in the business who hates him. (or since this is balaji telefilms, it's the mother! i used to be so mad at kavyanjali 'cause it had the perfect villain mother! 😆) here, prem has no real enemies -- ratpal (mr. rishab rampal to those who are new here) hates the junejas or lalit juneja more than prem. dirtchachi (mrs. daljeet maan to those who are new here) has not shown any tendency to murder. she just wants to have heer and meher out of her life.

so prem's death/removal had to come from some reason outside of the story as we know it.

2. i thought the sanjana track was being started to achieve this. but that didn't go anywhere. (did anyone else think that those flashbacks were a just screen test to see how good hc and that girl playing sanjana looked together? personally, i didn't think they were too great -- but then, i really think i can't see beyond the beauty of prem-heer anyway... so only an idiot would pick me as the judge of this question! 😆)

instead, the story used the randomness of a terrorist attack to "remove prem". personally, i thought it was more beautiful to use this situation instead of the (more boring) old girlfriend-haunting-prem track. prem could not possibly have had any old girlfriends -- 'cause prem-heer are one, of course. have been and will be forever after. and with prem in the middle of a bomb attack, we get the senselessness of a terrorist act in full technicolour, with all the horror and the meaning right in our faces.

3. d'you know what i thought was the most striking part of 2 oct? when they had ended 1 oct, prem was at the peak of who we know him to be: the perfect son who knows what his mother would love for a sari, the perfect brother who hasn't forgotten his sisters in the same purchase, the perfect lover who tries and tries to get through to his heer. and when he can't, he doesn't waste time but apologises to her in a voice-call. is fully honest and opens upto her about his fears. re-iterating that he loves her in every way possible.

when they started 2 oct, prem was ... a victim of a terrorist attack. the prem they had coming back to consciousness, the one that came back to his feet, the one in shock and in pain and in fear. he was no longer the prem that we knew as prem-heer. he was just .. prem. yet another person whose ... "astitva" had been violated by a senseless act of hatred and destruction. i was not thinking of prem the lover when i saw prem the shattered. he was just another person hurt. needing help. it was only afterwards, when he is aware of himself, and knows that he has really lost his chance at life, that he comes back to being prem juneja - a shattered and desperate version of the one that we saw on 9/11, beautiful, strong, wanting his heer badly enough to capture her in a room with low light and kiss her. 😭 the contrast was so stark that i couldn't even think they were the same people... 😭

as i thought about it later, i was really struck at all these things. and i thought it was totally brilliant. kudos to the team for that first segment. 👏

4. of course, the question is: now that they've started this - a death, coming from a totally random cause - what are they planning to achieve with it? confession time: deep down inside, i have a sneaking sympathy with the story writers. i have always wondered how they are going to keep prem perfect. it's easy when you are at the start of the love story - in the wooing, in the seducing, in the winning, in some of the keeping. but when you have to show forever after in a story of prem-heer-are-one where there always has to be prem-heer in it? how will prem (and his heer) remain perfect? and i was cringing thinking about it, thinking that at some point or the other they're gonna make prem do something that moves away from perfection. i was actually glad when they said heer is going to die, and they showed prem killing himself too -- we'd all have been thinking 'bout how perfect prem and his heer and their love was even today.

instead, that silly laluchacha had been dreaming it all. and we are today facing the possibility of a heer without prem. not perfect. 😡 who may not even be able to kill herself because she has the responsibility of keeping prem's family alive and working. that now falls on her. 'cause prem-heer are one. remember what she said: "if you were made for me, i was made for you. whatever role you had to play in sanjana's death, i had a part in it too. whatever burden you have, i have too." so only once she is certain that prem's family are okay, can she do what she might want to do. because prem's been taken away by a random act, she doesn't even have the reason to take revenge or something to keep going. it really is going to be all about fulfilling prem's obligations.

5. the only thing that i don't think fits between "prem killing himself when he finds heer dead" and "heer staying alive for the sake of prem's family" is that: prem was willing to forsake his family and their happiness when he found that heer was dead. but heer will not do the same? so heer's actually a more perfect person than prem?

6. a cool story line might be one where heer stays alive just now, works quietly and patiently, solving all the little juneja problems, gets everyone on track with their lives, looks around to make sure that it's moving on nicely and then decides it's time to quit. 'cause prem and heer are one. prem cannot be without his heer -- he said so on the phone. then, how can he enter heaven without her? he will wait for her before they can do it together. she will have to join him before he can. unless...

7. they do decide to make this a ghost story or a reincarnation story -- which hasn't been done in a daily soap before? i don't mean the plastic surgery kind. i mean the ... uh ... real kind 😆 where there are spirits and gods who grant wishes to get husbands back, kind of thing. gee, maybe this show will have some crossover from the mahabharat team! 😆

8. which brings me to my last thought: there was a movie called "the last temptation of christ" many years ago. totally freaky movie. why? because the whole movie was about someone (who is about to be killed) in the moment of his death imagining what would happen if he could be granted his wish to live. the whole movie was just that. so we get to see what he would do with his life, how he would get married, have kids. but then as he is living life, we get to see that it is not so idyllic as it sounds, and that he has to deal with problems. which are really horrible. and then! we are brought back to the moment of his death! where he has the chance to get his wish granted. and he chooses not to live but to die instead!

of course, with prem, we would be shown him imagining what would happen if he died. and all the mess that would follow. and then we come back to the moment of prem's death - and he is so horrified by all that's happening that he fights to live!

cool, na? it's never gonna happen, na? 😆 ya, i think so too. the balaji telefilms team will never do something like this! so i guess we go back to waiting and watching? 😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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YAY! Your hereeeee...

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Originally posted by: estee

note: wtf stands for weekend thoughts feature. i can't help it if you thought otherwise. 😊

I love how that smiles mocking us, and out inability to think 'out' of the gutter. 🤣

i guess this weekend the only glaring thought is that prem could be no more. what is interesting here is how it has happened. and i wrote this in the bt,lt of 1 oct: the character of prem has been the victim of a totally random act!

Yup.. Prem is no more, but I have this strong feeling he'll be back. They can't continue without Prem, can they? And actually that is SO truee. His death was like one of the most random things ever. I guess they were in a hurry to kill him off... *sigh*

1. think 'bout it: usually, there is a villain or a reason that the character is in danger. a brother in the business who hates him. (or since this is balaji telefilms, it's the mother! i used to be so mad at kavyanjali 'cause it had the perfect villain mother! 😆) here, prem has no real enemies -- ratpal (mr. rishab rampal to those who are new here) hates the junejas or lalit juneja more than prem. dirtchachi (mrs. daljeet maan to those who are new here) has not shown any tendency to murder. she just wants to have heer and meher out of her life.

Yea and here he died cuz of a bomb blast. It really makes no sense. I would've thought that RR would've done something, or yea, Sanjana would've come into this. But they chose a bomb blast in Delhi (Mumbai 🤣).

so prem's death/removal had to come from some reason outside of the story as we know it.

2. i thought the sanjana track was being started to achieve this. but that didn't go anywhere. (did anyone else think that those flashbacks were a just screen test to see how good hc and that girl playing sanjana looked together? personally, i didn't think they were too great -- but then, i really think i can't see beyond the beauty of prem-heer anyway... so only an idiot would pick me as the judge of this question! 😆)

Err... don't worry, i totally agree with you on that. The girl was like a foot shorter than him. 😲 Not that I have anything against her, she looks awesome with... ermm.. can't remember his name. Just remember that his name was Ranbir in KIT. And he was like 2 feet taller than her... so yea. 😆

But yea, I think hc and ag are like the only one of those couples that look so 'meant to be together'.


when they started 2 oct, prem was ... a victim of a terrorist attack. the prem they had coming back to consciousness, the one that came back to his feet, the one in shock and in pain and in fear. he was no longer the prem that we knew as prem-heer. he was just .. prem. yet another person whose ... "astitva" had been violated by a senseless act of hatred and destruction. i was not thinking of prem the lover when i saw prem the shattered. he was just another person hurt. needing help. it was only afterwards, when he is aware of himself, and knows that he has really lost his chance at life, that he comes back to being prem juneja - a shattered and desperate version of the one that we saw on 9/11, beautiful, strong, wanting his heer badly enough to capture her in a room with low light and kiss her. 😭 the contrast was so stark that i couldn't even think they were the same people... 😭

Ahh.. estee no one couldn't said it better...

as i thought about it later, i was really struck at all these things. and i thought it was totally brilliant. kudos to the team for that first segment. 👏

Yupzz.. And the dialouges, the way everything was put together. *sigh* It was just amazing.

4. of course, the question is: now that they've started this - a death, coming from a totally random cause - what are they planning to achieve with it? confession time: deep down inside, i have a sneaking sympathy with the story writers. i have always wondered how they are going to keep prem perfect. it's easy when you are at the start of the love story - in the wooing, in the seducing, in the winning, in some of the keeping. but when you have to show forever after in a story of prem-heer-are-one where there always has to be prem-heer in it? how will prem (and his heer) remain perfect? and i was cringing thinking about it, thinking that at some point or the other they're gonna make prem do something that moves away from perfection. i was actually glad when they said heer is going to die, and they showed prem killing himself too -- we'd all have been thinking 'bout how perfect prem and his heer and their love was even today.

Maybe that is why they had to kill him, becuase they too knew that they wouldn't be able to keep him perfect. But maybe if they were creative, they could've done that. *crosses arms and pouts*

I would've liked it if they died together too. It would've been a great ending to the serial.

instead, that silly laluchacha had been dreaming it all. and we are today facing the possibility of a heer without prem. not perfect. 😡 who may not even be able to kill herself because she has the responsibility of keeping prem's family alive and working. that now falls on her. 'cause prem-heer are one. remember what she said: "if you were made for me, i was made for you. whatever role you had to play in sanjana's death, i had a part in it too. whatever burden you have, i have too." so only once she is certain that prem's family are okay, can she do what she might want to do. because prem's been taken away by a random act, she doesn't even have the reason to take revenge or something to keep going. it really is going to be all about fulfilling prem's obligations.

I feel so bad for Heer, she has no reason to go on. Her soul lies with Prem's... But she can't leave without fulfilling his duties. I have goosebumps just thinking about. Did you see that promo of Heer, with the picture behind her. It really kills... Poor girl's been through so much. The people she loves the most died. First her parents, now Prem.

I think whatever is about to come up is going to be good.... well cuz hc said so. ☺️

5. the only thing that i don't think fits between "prem killing himself when he finds heer dead" and "heer staying alive for the sake of prem's family" is that: prem was willing to forsake his family and their happiness when he found that heer was dead. but heer will not do the same? so heer's actually a more perfect person than prem?

Yea I was just thinking that too. I have a feeling that she's never really going to accept his death... Like Prem saw her body, infront of him, lifeless. When he was ready to die with Heer, it showed how perfect Prem's love was.

And see, here... I think there not going to show the body, and without seeing his body, I think Heer's never going to believe Prem's dead. Which will show the perfect side of her love. Err... hopefully.

6. a cool story line might be one where heer stays alive just now, works quietly and patiently, solving all the little juneja problems, gets everyone on track with their lives, looks around to make sure that it's moving on nicely and then decides it's time to quit. 'cause prem and heer are one. prem cannot be without his heer -- he said so on the phone. then, how can he enter heaven without her? he will wait for her before they can do it together. she will have to join him before he can. unless...

Its really going to hurt seeing Heer like that. Helpless, being somewhere else... while doing something else. Prem won't go anywhere without Heer, he'll be hanging there (if he's dead) looking after her. I would love that too... *sigh*

7. they do decide to make this a ghost story or a reincarnation story -- which hasn't been done in a daily soap before? i don't mean the plastic surgery kind. i mean the ... uh ... real kind 😆 where there are spirits and gods who grant wishes to get husbands back, kind of thing. gee, maybe this show will have some crossover from the mahabharat team! 😆

Errmm... maybeee... I think thats on the 'too' creative side. 🤣

8. which brings me to my last thought: there was a movie called "the last temptation of christ" many years ago. totally freaky movie. why? because the whole movie was about someone (who is about to be killed) in the moment of his death imagining what would happen if he could be granted his wish to live. the whole movie was just that. so we get to see what he would do with his life, how he would get married, have kids. but then as he is living life, we get to see that it is not so idyllic as it sounds, and that he has to deal with problems. which are really horrible. and then! we are brought back to the moment of his death! where he has the chance to get his wish granted. and he chooses not to live but to die instead!

Err... never watched the movie. Sounds kind of interesting. 😆

of course, with prem, we would be shown him imagining what would happen if he died. and all the mess that would follow. and then we come back to the moment of prem's death - and he is so horrified by all that's happening that he fights to live!

Aww... That would be really nice. For some reason all this reminded me of the book 'New Moon'. Ever read it? Well the main guy in the book leaves the girl, and the girl is heart broken. She's a lifeless body without him. Since he's a vampire he's always looking after her. And when she does something dangerous, his voice comes in her mind. And just to hear his voice, she goes at the edge of a cliff, almost killing herself. I really want to see something like that. If Prem does die, his soul looking after Heer. When she's in a problem to look after her, to wait for her...

cool, na? it's never gonna happen, na? 😆 ya, i think so too. the balaji telefilms team will never do something like this! so i guess we go back to waiting and watching? 😆

Yea... there not as creative... Don't know why they call themselves creative then... *sigh* They REALLY need to start listening to us..



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Edited by kimmu - 17 years ago
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i read the whole wtf E.....will be bak to comment later......still havent gotten over the fact tat HC is gone😭. But he'll def be bak. nywyz be bak in a while....
K i'm bak wid my stupid comments...😆
QUOTE=estee]note: wtf stands for weekend thoughts feature. i can't help it if you thought otherwise. 😊 tiz time i wasn't fooled E...I knew it was ur weekend for thoughts...so no standin in the corner for an hr 4 me tiz time.....😆😆.

i guess this weekend the only glaring thought is that prem could be no more. what is interesting here is how it has happened. and i wrote this in the bt,lt of 1 oct: the character of prem has been the victim of a totally random act!

1. think 'bout it: usually, there is a villain or a reason that the character is in danger. a brother in the business who hates him. (or since this is balaji telefilms, it's the mother! i used to be so mad at kavyanjali 'cause it had the perfect villain mother! 😆) here, prem has no real enemies -- ratpal (mr. rishab rampal to those who are new here) hates the junejas or lalit juneja more than prem. dirtchachi (mrs. daljeet maan to those who are new here) has not shown any tendency to murder. she just wants to have heer and meher out of her life.
yaar don't 4get the ultimate real enemies...ekta and her creatives...wat more can any1 ask when they got villans like them....😆😆😆.
so prem's death/removal had to come from some reason outside of the story as we know it.

2. i thought the sanjana track was being started to achieve this. but that didn't go anywhere. (did anyone else think that those flashbacks were a just screen test to see how good hc and that girl playing sanjana looked together? personally, i didn't think they were too great -- but then, i really think i can't see beyond the beauty of prem-heer anyway... so only an idiot would pick me as the judge of this question! 😆) ok...now on tat bout nun beyond premeer is somethin i'll agree wid u....u mite wanna reconsider how many idiots r out here if ur callin urself an idiot like tat...im def the second one...😆😆. n For once i feel for poor dimple...she got out of kit and now she was used for screen test wid Harshu.....😆😆(dimple naam ko kabhi kimyabi nai milage...my name is dimple too...so i feel 4 her...😆😆). on another note...its hilarous how ekta for once didn't use tiz 'get ex gf or best friend bak make her enemy n kill the hero' kinda concept...hats off for tat 2 her for tat...at least tiz time she didn't use her brain cause we kno tat if she did then she would have used one of her many thousand of old tricks from her old book.....😆. I just wish she hadn't used her pea sized brain in killin off prem at all...😆.

instead, the story used the randomness of a terrorist attack to "remove prem". personally, i thought it was more beautiful to use this situation instead of the (more boring) old girlfriend-haunting-prem track. prem could not possibly have had any old girlfriends -- 'cause prem-heer are one, of course. have been and will be forever after. and with prem in the middle of a bomb attack, we get the senselessness of a terrorist act in full technicolour, with all the horror and the meaning right in our faces.
personally i liked tiz concept betta then ekta's so orignal used thousand times kinda idea of a car accedient, ratpal or sanjana killin prem off for revenge, and def the idea of prem havin another girl in her life, and etc etc type of ideas. Though i'll alwayz argue tat any spark of idea about killin off our prem is injustice and is def the end of the world for half of us on tiz forum....😆😆.

3. d'you know what i thought was the most striking part of 2 oct? when they had ended 1 oct, prem was at the peak of who we know him to be: the perfect son who knows what his mother would love for a sari, the perfect brother who hasn't forgotten his sisters in the same purchase, the perfect lover who tries and tries to get through to his heer. and when he can't, he doesn't waste time but apologises to her in a voice-call. is fully honest and opens upto her about his fears. re-iterating that he loves her in every way possible.
😭...too sad to comment.

when they started 2 oct, prem was ... a victim of a terrorist attack. the prem they had coming back to consciousness, the one that came back to his feet, the one in shock and in pain and in fear. he was no longer the prem that we knew as prem-heer. he was just .. prem. yet another person whose ... "astitva" had been violated by a senseless act of hatred and destruction. i was not thinking of prem the lover when i saw prem the shattered. he was just another person hurt. needing help. it was only afterwards, when he is aware of himself, and knows that he has really lost his chance at life, that he comes back to being prem juneja - a shattered and desperate version of the one that we saw on 9/11, beautiful, strong, wanting his heer badly enough to capture her in a room with low light and kiss her. 😭 the contrast was so stark that i couldn't even think they were the same people...
😭
.😭😭😭....tiz day for me started of really bad...i woke up late n missed my class. b4 the show started n i knew i had to watch the dreadful scenes in kdmhmd......my mom n aunt had a huge fight....i swear tiz womens start losin their understandin power n sense as they get old...i guess tatz wat they call senile(did i spell tat rite😆😆). But anywayz...for me the prem in the destruction and helpless mode was just too painful...i thought i could actually feel his pain and it seemed like harshad was feelin a different kind of pain...a pain to leave the show and it seemed like he was showing some of that too in the show...i dont think anythin ever has shaken me up like how harshad had in his scene where he is recollectin his whole life and apologizin to his mom, dad, and heer and i alwayz considered myself stone-hearted and emotionless person.....😭😭.

as i thought about it later, i was really struck at all these things. and i thought it was totally brilliant. kudos to the team for that first segment. 👏

4. of course, the question is: now that they've started this - a death, coming from a totally random cause - what are they planning to achieve with it? confession time: deep down inside, i have a sneaking sympathy with the story writers. i have always wondered how they are going to keep prem perfect. it's easy when you are at the start of the love story - in the wooing, in the seducing, in the winning, in some of the keeping. but when you have to show forever after in a story of prem-heer-are-one where there always has to be prem-heer in it? how will prem (and his heer) remain perfect? and i was cringing thinking about it, thinking that at some point or the other they're gonna make prem do something that moves away from perfection. i was actually glad when they said heer is going to die, and they showed prem killing himself too -- we'd all have been thinking 'bout how perfect prem and his heer and their love was even today.

I thank for once ever in my life...which i dont think i ever will do again...to ekta for at least not tarnishin prem's perfection....



instead, that silly laluchacha had been dreaming it all. and we are today facing the possibility of a heer without prem. not perfect. 😡 who may not even be able to kill herself because she has the responsibility of keeping prem's family alive and working. that now falls on her. 'cause prem-heer are one. remember what she said: "if you were made for me, i was made for you. whatever role you had to play in sanjana's death, i had a part in it too. whatever burden you have, i have too." so only once she is certain that prem's family are okay, can she do what she might want to do. because prem's been taken away by a random act, she doesn't even have the reason to take revenge or something to keep going. it really is going to be all about fulfilling prem's obligations.

5. the only thing that i don't think fits between "prem killing himself when he finds heer dead" and "heer staying alive for the sake of prem's family" is that: prem was willing to forsake his family and their happiness when he found that heer was dead. but heer will not do the same? so heer's actually a more perfect person than prem?
you kno on tiz i was thinkin somethin like....prem is dyin for heer because he knoz that every1 in his family can take care of themselves w/o him and plus his bauji had thrown him out and the fact tat he left his home and everythin was just for heer...so if heer isnt alive then watz the point for him livin. on the other side, heer has to deal with prem's family and she knoz how much he loved his family so she would put the family first just for prem and then do anythin to herself. But personally, i would perfer heer goin wid prem too....i dont mind the creatives showin some premeer heaven scenes...😆😆. i'm up for heer as an angel wid angel wings(she already has angel eyes...in my opinion)....and harshu in all white wid the most goregous white glow up in the white clouds and sky(k too much white n too much imagination runnin wild...i should really write a ff to let my imagniation to some use...😆)....k my mind is gone again to premeer land...not gonna say anythin more....need to get bak...
6. a cool story line might be one where heer stays alive just now, works quietly and patiently, solving all the little juneja problems, gets everyone on track with their lives, looks around to make sure that it's moving on nicely and then decides it's time to quit. 'cause prem and heer are one. prem cannot be without his heer -- he said so on the phone. then, how can he enter heaven without her? he will wait for her before they can do it together. she will have to join him before he can. unless...
should of read ur number 6 b4 commentin on number 5.....😆😆.

7. they do decide to make this a ghost story or a reincarnation story -- which hasn't been done in a daily soap before? i don't mean the plastic surgery kind. i mean the ... uh ... real kind 😆 where there are spirits and gods who grant wishes to get husbands back, kind of thing. gee, maybe this show will have some crossover from the mahabharat team! 😆
who cares...show em as bhoot, flying aatmas, show em as krishna/radha...show em as ram/sita...i dont care wat ekta does...take all the inspiration she needs to bring bak Harshad and give us some more premeer scenes.......😆😆.

8. which brings me to my last thought: there was a movie called "the last temptation of christ" many years ago. totally freaky movie. why? because the whole movie was about someone (who is about to be killed) in the moment of his death imagining what would happen if he could be granted his wish to live. the whole movie was just that. so we get to see what he would do with his life, how he would get married, have kids. but then as he is living life, we get to see that it is not so idyllic as it sounds, and that he has to deal with problems. which are really horrible. and then! we are brought back to the moment of his death! where he has the chance to get his wish granted. and he chooses not to live but to die instead!
havent seen it...but im gonna as soon as my midterms end....

of course, with prem, we would be shown him imagining what would happen if he died. and all the mess that would follow. and then we come back to the moment of prem's death - and he is so horrified by all that's happening that he fights to live!
you kno i can imagine prem sayin to himself...."are mein nahi mar sakta...muhje maa ko eye sari deni hai...aur heer ke saath ek kiss bhi nahi ke, kaisa mard ho mein......mein nahi ja sakta....oye yumraj...yahan mat aana..."😆😆😆...k i kno prem wouldnt think somethin like tat...but he would think bout how sad it is tat he couldnt get his pyari maa and his heer their sari n jolt bak up.....😆. You kno I'm still amazed at how those two have been livin in the same house for so long and still haven't kissed(i kno if i was in heer's place, i dont kno how many times i would have eaten prem up..😆😆).....now tiz is wat i call some 16th century thinkin or the matrix revolution revived in slow motion for everythin to be done....😆😆..not makin sense i kno..😆...(ok tiz is a dif topic in altogether).

cool, na? it's never gonna happen, na? 😆 ya, i think so too. the balaji telefilms team will never do something like this! so i guess we go back to waiting and watching? 😆
hey doesnt hurt dreamin rite....they cant stop us from dreamin...
Edited by premeerfan - 17 years ago
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Yep estee even I am thinking the same tht Heer being prem's heer will try to bring back junega family back on track.She will try and make sure tht everyone in the family is happy and settled

And then she may decideto go back to her prem as she knows tht prem cant live wid out her

I remember the epi during veera-rr track where prem says
"Apne pyar mein dard na ajaye isliye apne parivar ko dav pe lagaya"
"I want u to put our family above all"

So though she knows tht her prem cant enter heaven widout her.But as per his instructions to put their family above all.She may live till all probs were settled and then she can get back to her prem.

How cool it wud be

But our creatives hav to drag the story for atleast 4-5 yrs so I hav no hopes on creatives cuming up wid such thing keeping Prem-heer one.

Why I am getting the feeling or to say I am worried tht these guys r now all set to ruin the whole hard work they put up in showing us dat prem-heer are one.

If prem is removed forever then getting a new guy for heer and she obliging to elders and getting married its all routine how is this story going to be unique.

As I mentioned I am not watching the show or to say dont hav the courage dont know wht prem said to heer exactly on phone

um wht did he say?

Finally the much talked recent promo where in heer cries and puts mala on prem and bg voice saying "kya mohabbat mein sirf judaiyan hai"

so are the creatives playing wid the card whether to bring hc back or not or uhh dont know wht they r trying to say
As these promos are always misleadding can we expect our prem(only hc) being alive and returning after a while.
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Originally posted by: kimmu

YAY! Your hereeeee...



yaaay, so are you!! 🤗

Originally posted by: kimmu


I love how that smiles mocking us, and out inability to think 'out' of the gutter.



hey! if the shoe fits, darling... 😆

Originally posted by: kimmu


but I have this strong feeling he'll be back. They can't continue without Prem, can they? And actually that is SO truee. His death was like one of the most random things ever. I guess they were in a hurry to kill him off...



*sigh* i agree with the feeling of "will be back". i just wish that i knew that it was prem or hc or both? i hope that prem comes back. i desperately want hc to come back. it'd be super fantastic if both came back -- as each other! 😆

Originally posted by: kimmu


But they chose a bomb blast in Delhi (Mumbai 🤣).



😆 you caught that too??

Originally posted by: kimmu


Maybe that is why they had to kill him, becuase they too knew that they wouldn't be able to keep him perfect. But maybe if they were creative, they could've done that. *crosses arms and pouts*



*joining you in the cross-arm-pouting pose* i think 'bout it and wonder -- how difficult can it be to keep prem perfect? he doesn't have to say or do anything every day, really. just wake up, dress in his cool suits, kiss heer before going to work, kiss heer after coming from work, cuddle her and go to sleep. and repeat this every single day! what's difficult about keeping prem perfect, huh??! idiots.... 🤣

Originally posted by: kimmu


I feel so bad for Heer, she has no reason to go on. Her soul lies with Prem's... But she can't leave without fulfilling his duties. I have goosebumps just thinking about. Did you see that promo of Heer, with the picture behind her. It really kills... Poor girl's been through so much. The people she loves the most died. First her parents, now Prem.
I think whatever is about to come up is going to be good.... well cuz hc said so. ☺️



you're right -- i hadn't thought that yet. she has a tendency to lose her loved ones - poor thing! remember when she proposes to him? she says that she lost her parents. but then she got prem. and that she can't live even a moment without him! oh dear. i think i'm going to get miserable... 😔

i hope he's right about it's going to be good. 'cause if not, i'll give another interpretation for wanting to "smack hc in his jaw"! 😆

Originally posted by: kimmu


Yea I was just thinking that too. I have a feeling that she's never really going to accept his death... Like Prem saw her body, infront of him, lifeless. When he was ready to die with Heer, it showed how perfect Prem's love was.

And see, here... I think there not going to show the body, and without seeing his body, I think Heer's never going to believe Prem's dead. Which will show the perfect side of her love. Err... hopefully.



once again, that's true. prem didn't accept that heer wasn't around until he actually saw her dead body! thanks for that thought, kimz. i guess that's a parallel for heer - so we really have to see what happens next week on how heer finds out that prem might not be alive... hmmm...
(except just thinking about it feels so .... weird! no prem in monday's show? huh!?!?! 😕)

Originally posted by: kimmu


Errmm... maybeee... I think thats on the 'too' creative side. 🤣



😆 you think, huh? i mean, this is balaji telefilms that we are talking about! maybe while prepping for the mahabharat, they also read that story about some girl who followed her husband's soul carried by the god of death (yama?) all the way into the nether regions. she kept pestering yama by just following him that he finally gave up and gave her back her husband's soul!

now wouldn't that be ultra-cool to see heer do??! even if it's that creative??! 🤣🤣🤣

Originally posted by: kimmu


Err... never watched the movie. Sounds kind of interesting. 😆



😆 actually, was kinda bizarre, especially with all the religious contexts thrown in. that was not a recommendation...! 😆

Originally posted by: kimmu


Aww... That would be really nice. For some reason all this reminded me of the book 'New Moon'. Ever read it? Well the main guy in the book leaves the girl, and the girl is heart broken. She's a lifeless body without him. Since he's a vampire he's always looking after her. And when she does something dangerous, his voice comes in her mind. And just to hear his voice, she goes at the edge of a cliff, almost killing herself. I really want to see something like that. If Prem does die, his soul looking after Heer. When she's in a problem to look after her, to wait for her...



hmm... the idea is nice. vampires are not quite my thing (have a stooopid tendency to lie in bed with garlic bulbs after seeing/reading 'bout them. 😆 upsets my mom no end... especially if she ends up cleaning those sheets with other clothes and all of them coming out smelling ... uh ... rather peculiar! 😆) so don't enjoy the thought of vampire-prem. but voices of the soul, being heard when she is miserable, or in trouble...? niiice.

Originally posted by: kimmu


Yea... there not as creative... Don't know why they call themselves creative then... *sigh* They REALLY need to start listening to us..


*sigh* they've done kinda okay so far, so.... oh well. i guess, we just get to (even if i can't really bear to) wait and watch? *double sigh*

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Originally posted by: estee

note: wtf stands for weekend thoughts feature. i can't help it if you thought otherwise. 😊 😆😆😆I have this reaction whenever i see it 😆😆😆

i guess this weekend the only glaring thought is that prem could be no more. what is interesting here is how it has happened. and i wrote this in the bt,lt of 1 oct: the character of prem has been the victim of a totally random act! after the dust had settled, I also mentioned in in a post that there was no scheming or plotting by any character that made this happen - then i started wondering that maybe the creatives had a deeper message to convey - guess the impact was there because it involved a really well loved character. 😕

1. think 'bout it: usually, there is a villain or a reason that the character is in danger. a brother in the business who hates him. (or since this is balaji telefilms, it's the mother! i used to be so mad at kavyanjali 'cause it had the perfect villain mother! 😆) here, prem has no real enemies -- ratpal (mr. rishab rampal to those who are new here) hates the junejas or lalit juneja more than prem. dirtchachi (mrs. daljeet maan to those who are new here) has not shown any tendency to murder. she just wants to have heer and meher out of her life. never thought of it this way - you are right - he has no enemies - he is the lead character and there are so many villians but none are against him. what is this story all about then??? not an immortal love story, no 'good guys, bad guys' (thought of sara palin's interview with katie couric here 😆😆) plot so what is the story about? baffling - no wonder the creatives themselves are confused. so prem's death/removal had to come from some reason outside of the story as we know it.

2. i thought the sanjana track was being started to achieve this. but that didn't go anywhere. (did anyone else think that those flashbacks were a just screen test to see how good hc and that girl playing sanjana looked together? personally, i didn't think they were too great -- but then, i really think i can't see beyond the beauty of prem-heer anyway... so only an idiot would pick me as the judge of this question! 😆)i did give this idea a passing thought when they mentioned that they could be casting him in their new show. then i thought the creatives cannot be that dumb - i mean you want to start a love story that will occupy top slot on starplus and you would cast a lead actor with someone else other than the actress that he has just won jodi awards with? how suicidal can you get - kill your jodi in another show and try re-create another jodi with the same actor. don't know - just sounds dumb. if i had a God given jodi like premeer - i would have both of them die in a serial that was not performing well and start out a fresh love story with my winning pair!! but then again bt always goes against the wind don't they.

instead, the story used the randomness of a terrorist attack to "remove prem". personally, i thought it was more beautiful to use this situation instead of the (more boring) old girlfriend-haunting-prem track. prem could not possibly have had any old girlfriends -- 'cause prem-heer are one, of course. have been and will be forever after. and with prem in the middle of a bomb attack, we get the senselessness of a terrorist act in full technicolour, with all the horror and the meaning right in our faces. i am waiting with abated breath to see what is this interesting track for which prem had to supposedly die - hopefully something new that we have not seen in bt serials before😕

3. d'you know what i thought was the most striking part of 2 oct? when they had ended 1 oct, prem was at the peak of who we know him to be: the perfect son who knows what his mother would love for a sari, the perfect brother who hasn't forgotten his sisters in the same purchase, the perfect lover who tries and tries to get through to his heer. and when he can't, he doesn't waste time but apologises to her in a voice-call. is fully honest and opens upto her about his fears. re-iterating that he loves her in every way possible.

when they started 2 oct, prem was ... a victim of a terrorist attack. the prem they had coming back to consciousness, the one that came back to his feet, the one in shock and in pain and in fear. he was no longer the prem that we knew as prem-heer. he was just .. prem. yet another person whose ... "astitva" had been violated by a senseless act of hatred and destruction. i was not thinking of prem the lover when i saw prem the shattered. he was just another person hurt. needing help. it was only afterwards, when he is aware of himself, and knows that he has really lost his chance at life, that he comes back to being prem juneja - a shattered and desperate version of the one that we saw on 9/11, beautiful, strong, wanting his heer badly enough to capture her in a room with low light and kiss her. 😭 the contrast was so stark that i couldn't even think they were the same people... 😭 if you got this feeling then the creatives did a good job of showing him as an ordinary person (yet not so ordinary to the people that love him) being killed by other 'ordinary' evil people - just like a newsclip on a disaster that does not really touch us because it involves 'ordinary' people that we do not know.

as i thought about it later, i was really struck at all these things. and i thought it was totally brilliant. kudos to the team for that first segment. 👏 i agree.... now if they could only bring prem back 😊

4. of course, the question is: now that they've started this - a death, coming from a totally random cause - what are they planning to achieve with it? confession time: deep down inside, i have a sneaking sympathy with the story writers. i have always wondered how they are going to keep prem perfect. it's easy when you are at the start of the love story - in the wooing, in the seducing, in the winning, in some of the keeping. but when you have to show forever after in a story of prem-heer-are-one where there always has to be prem-heer in it? how will prem (and his heer) remain perfect? and i was cringing thinking about it, thinking that at some point or the other they're gonna make prem do something that moves away from perfection. i was actually glad when they said heer is going to die, and they showed prem killing himself too -- we'd all have been thinking 'bout how perfect prem and his heer and their love was even today. but estee why with the number of villians that they have in the serial does prem have to change for them to proceed with the story - we are not so gullible enough to believe that prem was soooo perfect - he was human and we knew that. 😕 why kill him to create another prem - a prem that is a clone of another bt hero. we have seen enough of those

instead, that silly laluchacha had been dreaming it all. and we are today facing the possibility of a heer without prem. not perfect. 😡 who may not even be able to kill herself because she has the responsibility of keeping prem's family alive and working. that now falls on her. 'cause prem-heer are one. remember what she said: "if you were made for me, i was made for you. whatever role you had to play in sanjana's death, i had a part in it too. whatever burden you have, i have too." so only once she is certain that prem's family are okay, can she do what she might want to do. because prem's been taken away by a random act, she doesn't even have the reason to take revenge or something to keep going. it really is going to be all about fulfilling prem's obligations. and i hope that it all it remains about 😕

5. the only thing that i don't think fits between "prem killing himself when he finds heer dead" and "heer staying alive for the sake of prem's family" is that: prem was willing to forsake his family and their happiness when he found that heer was dead. but heer will not do the same? so heer's actually a more perfect person than prem? you are good - you thought this far....i actually like this - a girl more perfect than the guy....😆😆😆

6. a cool story line might be one where heer stays alive just now, works quietly and patiently, solving all the little juneja problems, gets everyone on track with their lives, looks around to make sure that it's moving on nicely and then decides it's time to quit. 'cause prem and heer are one. prem cannot be without his heer -- he said so on the phone. then, how can he enter heaven without her? he will wait for her before they can do it together. she will have to join him before he can. unless...yes, yes pls let it be this unless....

7. they do decide to make this a ghost story or a reincarnation story -- which hasn't been done in a daily soap before? i don't mean the plastic surgery kind. i mean the ... uh ... real kind 😆 where there are spirits and gods who grant wishes to get husbands back, kind of thing. gee, maybe this show will have some crossover from the mahabharat team! 😆 this would indeed be a novel idea...something bt has never done before. but can they take such s huge risk for a prime time slot - do not know?

8. which brings me to my last thought: there was a movie called "the last temptation of christ" many years ago. totally freaky movie. why? because the whole movie was about someone (who is about to be killed) in the moment of his death imagining what would happen if he could be granted his wish to live. the whole movie was just that. so we get to see what he would do with his life, how he would get married, have kids. but then as he is living life, we get to see that it is not so idyllic as it sounds, and that he has to deal with problems. which are really horrible. and then! we are brought back to the moment of his death! where he has the chance to get his wish granted. and he chooses not to live but to die instead! bollywood does copy from hollywood, but tellywood copying from hollywood? so far tellywood has only ever copied from bollywood.

of course, with prem, we would be shown him imagining what would happen if he died. and all the mess that would follow. and then we come back to the moment of prem's death - and he is so horrified by all that's happening that he fights to live!

cool, na? it's never gonna happen, na? 😆 ya, i think so too. the balaji telefilms team will never do something like this! so i guess we go back to waiting and watching? 😆 i agree... 😆

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Originally posted by: estee


2. i thought the sanjana track was being started to achieve this. but that didn't go anywhere. (did anyone else think that those flashbacks were a just screen test to see how good hc and that girl playing sanjana looked together? personally, i didn't think they were too great -- but then, i really think i can't see beyond the beauty of prem-heer anyway... so only an idiot would pick me as the judge of this question! 😆)

i just thought that would have been an interesting track in kdmhmd, if sanjana was alive and could be used to create problems for prem, emotional ones thus tension btw prem and heer, added onto by RR and Veera, i have started doubting the whole harshad in a new serial thing, seriously he has just been let go from two ventures so that he can start on a third one, does it make any sense???

instead, the story used the randomness of a terrorist attack to "remove prem". personally, i thought it was more beautiful to use this situation instead of the (more boring) old girlfriend-haunting-prem track. prem could not possibly have had any old girlfriends -- 'cause prem-heer are one, of course. have been and will be forever after. and with prem in the middle of a bomb attack, we get the senselessness of a terrorist act in full technicolour, with all the horror and the meaning right in our faces.
I agree the terrorist attack pulls in a different factor into a typical soap, makes it sadder but closer to real life

4. of course, the question is: now that they've started this - a death, coming from a totally random cause - what are they planning to achieve with it? confession time: deep down inside, i have a sneaking sympathy with the story writers. i have always wondered how they are going to keep prem perfect. it's easy when you are at the start of the love story - in the wooing, in the seducing, in the winning, in some of the keeping. but when you have to show forever after in a story of prem-heer-are-one where there always has to be prem-heer in it? how will prem (and his heer) remain perfect? and i was cringing thinking about it, thinking that at some point or the other they're gonna make prem do something that moves away from perfection. i was actually glad when they said heer is going to die, and they showed prem killing himself too -- we'd all have been thinking 'bout how perfect prem and his heer and their love was even today.
I have also felt that the story was brilliant till prem and heer got together in the middle of june, i think that is where the story got affected by viewer reactions...
so prem and heer go and live by themselves, could have been very interesting, they would have lots of problems that they could face together, lots of opportunites for premeer moments, but i think they changed the story too much at that time, introduced RR but didnt go anywhere with that either, introduced the nihaal veera story, again didnt go anywhere, nihaal is heer and mehers brother.... all these stories but no real progress in kdmhmd, then the whole aditi fiasco, i think they couldnt decide where to take the story
5. the only thing that i don't think fits between "prem killing himself when he finds heer dead" and "heer staying alive for the sake of prem's family" is that: prem was willing to forsake his family and their happiness when he found that heer was dead. but heer will not do the same? so heer's actually a more perfect person than prem?
more perfect than PREM, is that really possible, i think she has a lot of weaknesses which she will overcome to become more like perfect prem
6. a cool story line might be one where heer stays alive just now, works quietly and patiently, solving all the little juneja problems, gets everyone on track with their lives, looks around to make sure that it's moving on nicely and then decides it's time to quit. 'cause prem and heer are one. prem cannot be without his heer -- he said so on the phone. then, how can he enter heaven without her? he will wait for her before they can do it together. she will have to join him before he can. unless...
i think if things get really desperate by this time we might get prem back, but no hocus pocus, just simply find him living with memory loss because that would be the only thing keeping prem away from his family

of course, with prem, we would be shown him imagining what would happen if he died. and all the mess that would follow. and then we come back to the moment of prem's death - and he is so horrified by all that's happening that he fights to live!

at the very end of the 2nd oct episode, prem says that people say that when u die ur whole life flashes in front of you but i have seen all that could have been for me... why didnt they show that to us too, plus i think all the voices that he was hearing might play some part, dont know
cool, na? it's never gonna happen, na? 😆 ya, i think so too. the balaji telefilms team will never do something like this! so i guess we go back to waiting and watching? 😆


but what is the fun in only watching and not discussing bisecting it to bits to try and figure out what the creatives were thinking......in the waiting time, but i do think we need to be patient in waiting for prems return, i think that has been analysed to death, i still have questions but unless i can find harshad or ekta or maybe vikas it will all be speculation
waiting to see heer take charge, preet mourn his dear brother, harman figuring out maya is a B..... Veera realising RR is rotten, nihaal coming back, hey will the strike effect upcoming episodes???? something else to think about
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Originally posted by: estee

hey! if the shoe fits, darling... 😆



Don't worry, it definetly fits. 😆


Originally posted by: estee

*sigh* i agree with the feeling of "will be back". i just wish that i knew that it was prem or hc or both? i hope that prem comes back. i desperately want hc to come back. it'd be super fantastic if both came back -- as each other! 😆



I want both too. I can't see Prem without hc, and I can't see hc without Prem... I can' choose between one, its so hard. Prem's perfect love, and hc's brilliancy to capture that perfectness. *sigh* what a dilemma. Hmm what if they showed an imperfect Prem, with hc? 🤔

Originally posted by: estee

😆 you caught that too??



Nope, just read the last part of our bt,lt on it. 🤣 Had to know your thoughts on Prem being blasted.


Originally posted by: estee

*joining you in the cross-arm-pouting pose* i think 'bout it and wonder -- how difficult can it be to keep prem perfect? he doesn't have to say or do anything every day, really. just wake up, dress in his cool suits, kiss heer before going to work, kiss heer after coming from work, cuddle her and go to sleep. and repeat this every single day! what's difficult about keeping prem perfect, huh??! idiots.... 🤣



Exactly! Don't they understand that were totally fine with watching Prem and Heer's daily life without obstacles? If there worried about the TRP's... whats there to worry? They'll be soaring once Premeer are like that. 😃

Originally posted by: estee

you're right -- i hadn't thought that yet. she has a tendency to lose her loved ones - poor thing! remember when she proposes to him? she says that she lost her parents. but then she got prem. and that she can't live even a moment without him! oh dear. i think i'm going to get miserable... 😔



Ahh.. i know, her life is so miserable. The person she waits for 14 years, comes to her but then leaves her. I guess its just me, cuz i can't see anyone in pain. It kills me.

Originally posted by: estee

i hope he's right about it's going to be good. 'cause if not, i'll give another interpretation for wanting to "smack hc in his jaw"! 😆



Ahh yea, and he's not just 'saying' it. I wouldn't smack his wonderfully made jaw. ☺️ It could be more of a touch in the disguise of a slap... ☺️ 😆


Originally posted by: estee

once again, that's true. prem didn't accept that heer wasn't around until he actually saw her dead body! thanks for that thought, kimz. i guess that's a parallel for heer - so we really have to see what happens next week on how heer finds out that prem might not be alive... hmmm...
(except just thinking about it feels so .... weird! no prem in monday's show? huh!?!?! 😕)



See i'm so smart... *grins and points at her head, showing estee her brain power* I have mixed feelings for monday's epi. I want to watch it, but i don't want to watch it. I'm afraid there going to get a dead body, i'm afraid of Heer's reaction... yet I still want to know... Arrrghh, i hate the creatives for making me go through this. Oh and yea, gotta get used to not seeing prem.

Originally posted by: estee


😆 you think, huh? i mean, this is balaji telefilms that we are talking about! maybe while prepping for the mahabharat, they also read that story about some girl who followed her husband's soul carried by the god of death (yama?) all the way into the nether regions. she kept pestering yama by just following him that he finally gave up and gave her back her husband's soul!

now wouldn't that be ultra-cool to see heer do??! even if it's that creative??! 🤣🤣🤣



Now that you put it that way... Sounds much better, that would be really cool. Like a totally new side of Heer. Her determination to get Prem back, aaah i would love that. Maybe ekta should show that in mahabhaarat. No?

Originally posted by: estee


😆 actually, was kinda bizarre, especially with all the religious contexts thrown in. that was not a recommendation...! 😆



I said kind of... while looking around nervously🤣 I don't really have a thing for watching 'ghostly' movies... i remember what happened when i watched exorcist. 😳


Originally posted by: estee

hmm... the idea is nice. vampires are not quite my thing (have a stooopid tendency to lie in bed with garlic bulbs after seeing/reading 'bout them. 😆 upsets my mom no end... especially if she ends up cleaning those sheets with other clothes and all of them coming out smelling ... uh ... rather peculiar! 😆) so don't enjoy the thought of vampire-prem. but voices of the soul, being heard when she is miserable, or in trouble...? niiice.



Ahh well Edward is the best vampire ever. Your fear of vampires will probably be gone then... You'll probably wish for a vampire then. Your mom will be so glad too then. 🤣 Though i'm kind of curious to how your fear for Vampires started... I always adored them as a kid. Uhhh... yea i loved mythical things. 😆😆

Yea the voices part... it goes with the whole 'i can feel you' thing. 😆


Originally posted by: estee

*sigh* they've done kinda okay so far, so.... oh well. i guess, we just get to (even if i can't really bear to) wait and watch? *double sigh*



Well yea.. they have done really well so far. Have to give them credit for showing these two together... Now that hc and ag aren't on the sets together... There probably going to miss eachother... You know maybe we have chances of them getting together in real life. 😍

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hello E...
i've been meaning to comment on the bt,lt....sorry! i read and re-read all of them tho....😆

1. think 'bout it: usually, there is a villain or a reason that the character is in danger.
4. of course, the question is: now that they've started this - a death, coming from a totally random cause - what are they planning to achieve with it?

i've had a nagging suspicious in the back of my mind that things couldn't remain perfect...we all thought that there'd be major misunderstandings between prem-heer w/ regard to ratpal...no such thing happened. sanjana came and went...the writers had to show the strenght of prem-heer' love are so they needed something dramatic like "pretending" to kill off prem...my mind keeps drifiting back to prem's constant references to "vishwas"....i know prem would say something like that.. 😊 but the creatives at BT...i think that was a clue of some sort...😆
yeah...prem's going to be back..just hope it doesnt lead to some plastic surgery crap!

2. i thought the sanjana track was being started to achieve this.
the creatives were trying to 'dhool jhokofy' in our eyes....pointless track...but amazing result..."mein, prem juneja aaj......" *sniff* gosh i'm going to miss him.

3. d'you know what i thought was the most striking part of 2 oct?
honestly, i have not had the courage to watch 1st and 2nd oct episodes. i read your bt, lt and that was good enough for me. i know you captured all the relevant parts. And yes E, 😉, it was your prem-heer fevered imaginattion getting the better of you...they have not, er, "done it"...yet. although, i do agree that if they had wanted to finish prem off...they should have at least made love ....😃...especially after the beautiful vows that prem uttered..well his eyes conveyed to hers....seems kinda natural, don't ya think??

5. the only thing that i don't think fits between "prem killing himself when he finds heer dead" and "heer staying alive for the sake of prem's family"
6. a cool story line might be one where heer stays alive just now, works quietly and patiently, solving all the little juneja problems, gets everyone on track with their lives, looks around to make sure that it's moving on nicely and then decides it's time to quit.
yeah...she is now going to be taking care of the family...only for prem....😔 its really sad...but will be good to see how this pans out.

7. they do decide to make this a ghost story or a reincarnation story
ghost stories are about dead people...prem ain't dead...i will not believe it...ever *puts head back in the sandpit*

8. which brings me to my last thought: there was a movie called "the last temptation of christ"
have not seen this...so can't comment. don't think i will see it 😆
waiting and watching.......😃


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