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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zubi2008

Put urself in Tanya's shoes. the girl has no voice to begin with. She was always been the quiet person. and there is nothing wrong with that. she couldn't even save herself from kanaiyah when the sun is out and bright how is she suppose go through something that horrible. And when u r raped, rape victims dont come seek family help. family realizes something is wrong and goes to help instead.

then comes the sindoor. according to them as soon as u put the sindoor u r married. as soon as its off u are not married. now it maybe ur opinion that it doesnt matter but to them it did and raj married her on the spot. I don believe in sindoors i am not even hindu but i respect it. she tried to wipe it off yuvraj stopped it. kudos to her for trying. the marriage blame goes to yuvraj not tanya.

and did i miss a episode? I think i did? was trishna drugged into marrying Rajdeep the innocent guy? was she dragged? was she beaten into marrying him? maybe she was hypnotized? or blackmailed?? if ur answer is anything like family pressure or she was still in a shock or it happened to fast. Then people let me tell u rape's shock is worst. it beats heartbreak. tanya also was under family pressure and etc etc.

if trish's marriage breaks and she ends up suffering the blame is all hers. Yuvraj tried to fix her up with Rajdeep but atleast he had a noble cause in mind. The fact that it didnt work out is out of his control. So the blame is all Trishnas.

Tanyas marriage already happened the second he put the sindoor on. again u might not belive thats how weddings happen but in the show according to them they are married as soon as the maang is filled. So being the good quiet follower she is, she decided not to say anything. But she tried. her sis wouldn't listen to her. Raj and kul told her not to. she saw her sis in pain but atleast she knows she is settled well.

only 2 things bother me in this show and how people are seeing it

1.

ever had a heartbreak? ever thought u couldnt live w/o someone but they turned out to be someone else and broke ur heart. lets hope so. or dont talk about it. it feels like death but it's not that bad. u move on given time. Trishna is lucky to have good husband maybe trish fans r feeling bad because she ended up w/ the uglier guy. as for marriage she wasnt drugged into marrige. she didnt want it then she shouldnt have married him.

2.

now ever got raped? or even had anyone touch u the wrong way who u didnt want. maybe u knew someone who got raped. have u seen what that person goes through?

Kudos to tanya that she is moving on. u want to blame her moving on? if its about telling trish do u know realisticly how many ppl hide their rape. how humiliating it is?

trish doesnt have to forgive her. Forgiving is a very great trait and trish isnt great. she doesnt have to forget either. bad on her part she doesnt have the brain to question a sister she knew all her life. she seeked the answers from the guy. she still doesnt mind to talk to the guy but she wont say a word to tanya. is the guy more important. her pain more looks like that she lost her fav toy and not that her sister did somethign wrong. it doesnt kill her to see tanya who betrayed her or raj who betrayed her. it hurts to see them together because she wanted him for herself. then asking her if she stole someone? why wuld u even want a guy that can be stolen? thank ur lucky stars that he is taken away from u. what does stealing mean? u dont steal people.

to quote u precisely

-- "Deep has got $$$, he "loves" Trish or "having Trish." So? That's nice and all, but she loves Yuv only. And why should we expect her to be open-minded and accepting of this?"

She shouldnt be open minded. But she should listen to what yuv told her. He didn't want to marry a girl like her. If i was her I would be insulted and never look at him again. She married Rajdeep on her own. If u have no plan to move on dont mess up another guys life. But she is moving on kudos to her!

--" This type of betrayal has changed Trish's life. Tanya got raped, but with the help of her family, she should have dealt with it...she did not have to rape others of the things they love. For what??? I'm incredulous."--

trish got betrayed. she didnt have to betray Rajdeep. Tanya didnt have her whole family backing her up. Trish had everyone. Again tanya had no one, she had everyone. dont say well tanya couldve gone and told her family. no thats not how it happens. rape victims dont come and say " hey listen so the other day i got raped, now can u help me?"

-- " You mentioned Trish's reaction makes her a "bad sister." So what does it make the innocent Tanya?? Tanya's decisions have ruined her sister's life and future -- maybe Trish will get over it, maybe not. "--

Nothing makes Tanya a good sister. She made wrong decisions. But overall trish seems like quite insensitive person. And tanya is till the caring one. bottomline she has been crying since the second raj married her. It wasnt for fun or the fact now she missed out on the golden chance to be kanaiyah's wife. its because she hurt her sister. Trish hasnt thought about a single person excet how she lost raj. oh yes she cried!!!! she cried because she lost raj. more because she lost him and she was betrayed.

-- "believe some of the descriptors are misplaced. I know you mention Trish's insensitivity. But I really have to disagree with you. Poor little Tanya was the insensitive one, period. HER very decision to go ahead with the wedding broke her sister's trust and love. I mean how can it not? Did Tanya even CONSIDER her sister when marrying Yuv, doing the pheras at the mandir? She did NOT; hence, technically, she's the inconsiderate one right?"

i know they didnt do any pheras in the mandir, unless i missed it. if i remember correctly the girl was still having nightmares of kanaiyah even after marrying Raj. it's not a state where u think about someone else. then during the whole wedding precess where trish was acting cold i remember tanya crying. and even the wedding she was higly depressed and raj dragged her to it. atleast I can say both times during the wedding she was dragged to it. for trish not a single excuse for cheating rajdeep.

I am not asking trish to forget and forgive but she should question. why wouldnt u question the sister u knew all her life? thats so dumb. and last but not least anyone who wants to talk realisticly and wants to put me in trish's shoes, been there. Go put urself in tanya's shoes now. Give the girl a break. She has been through the most in this show. she does need a backbone though. Hopefully she will get one soon. thats a personality type. Its not something that just happens or u make a decision to be stronger over night. its a process. and since she finally answered trish the other day maybe she is starting to get one.

if u want to take out ur anger because raj and trish separated and she got the uglier guy then blame Raj. he wanted to sacrifice for his best friend who couldnt live w/o trishna. And he decided to save Tanya. Tanya didnt wrap herself over him. why is it that everyone is pointing fingers at tanya rarely anyone at raj?

R U sure u aren't Tania😆😆😆
this is like a biography.😆😆😆
U have a good point both parties do but lets not forget this is a show people and in all shows there is no angst, masala without there being flawed people. U, Me, everyone in this planet is flawed. Some more than others. Being the eldest sister doesn't always make one wiser as i've learnt but its a learning curve.
Either it makes U a better person or it makes u weaker.People that never speak out are normally the ones that take all the flak trust me on this. People take advantage coz of the silence its the way of the world. Tanya needs to speak up more this comes with age and experience even rage.
I'm in the midddle. I'm not a Trish supporter nor am i fully on Tanya's side coz for me sitting in silence is as bad as being insensitive either way U hurt people or yourself. Tanya is hurting herself more than others i feel please don't shoot me but its like councelling the more u bottle your feelings the more it hurts.
Trish is one person i'm loving and hating both at the same time which is great. She represents a person with a lot of flaws and those people are usually the ones that surprise U the most coz of their unpredictability. I just wish she showed her sister more love than all this hate but U get angry with those U love the most right/ I'm thinking Trish can't have loved Yuv that much if she can't throw any venom at him as its he who dumped her.
Edited by matwamango - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: matwamango

R U sure u aren't Tania😆😆😆
this is like a biography.😆😆😆
U have a good point both parties do but lets not forget this is a show people and in all shows there is no angst, masala without there being flawed people. U, Me, everyone in this planet is flawed. Some more than others. Being the eldest sister doesn't always make one wiser as i've learnt but its a learning curve.
Either it makes U a better person or it makes u weaker.People that never speak out are normally the ones that take all the flak trust me on this. People take advantage coz of the silence its the way of the world. Tanya needs to speak up more this comes with age and experience even rage.
I'm in the midddle. I'm not a Trish supporter nor am i fully on Tanya's side coz for me sitting in silence is as bad as being insensitive either way U hurt people or yourself. Tanya is hurting herself more than others i feel please don't shoot me but its like councelling the more u bottle your feelings the more it hurts.
Trish is one person i'm loving and hating both at the same time which is great. She represents a person with a lot of flaws and those people are usually the ones that surprise U the most coz of their unpredictability. I just wish she showed her sister more love than all this hate but U get angry with those U love the most right/ I'm thinking Trish can't have loved Yuv that much if she can't throw any venom at him as its he who dumped her.

I agree! everyone has flaws. Depending which flaw is the major flaw in your eyes. For me I get irked by inconsiderate insensitive people. and that's who trish looks like to me. I wonder if there was ever a episode where she was shown thinking about someone else. But Trish is strong and she is smart. then the fact that she married Rajdeep also looks like another flaw.

Tanya's flaw again is she is very weak. I have been there and I know that. Part of the reason why I always voice my opinion these days is because I know what it feels like. It's a slow process and takes time. Experience makes you learn it. But I love her that she cares. She knows she is hurting her sister and she feels horrible.

I try not to take sides. I like Trishna and I like Tanya. They both have good and bad. But I can't stand it when Tanya is put down. And I am a taaj supporter!
Also maybe it's wrong but since Trish is older I expect her to be more mature. I expect her to understand things more than Tanya. Sure it doesn't happen as my little brother is more understanding than my sister even though she is older. But I still think that's how it should work. Your little sister should look up to you. You should teach her stuff she doesn't know. But out of Tanya and trish, trish acts like the kid. Which is great! Makes a fun character! But in a Tanya vs trish battle (which shouldn't happen) it makes me love Tanya. 😳
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I think thats her choice! she married rajdeep ...... she needed sometime to come out of shock and be healed emotionally....that was her right to be mad at raj...but i think commitment is more important.....and if he is commited to someone else she should stop thinking about him...be realistic what ever happened is happened u cant change the past...why to waste ur energy and be thinking about something that wont give u anything except pain....and if she married rajdeep she needs to be with him....coz that was her choice....that was a wrong step to marry him at that point but now if she is married she cant be self centered.....this is not the end of life....we make mistakes ,we suffer but then we have to learn from those things and not to livein past but in present looking towards future....
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Thank you ladies for all these great perspectives. I think our little forum is heating up!

All your points taken. I think we have strong feelings one way or another not so much by the story itself, but how our beliefs, experiences, and relationships stack up against what we're seeing on TV.

Just let's keep enjoying the show and disagreeing on the other stuff.

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