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Posted: 17 years ago
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I am trying hard to undertsand her properly. In one hand she is very admirable that she is moving on and not crying buckets of water. (that's what I would do! cry )

On the other hand...

You have known your sister all your life, is she a bad person?😕 She should know what kind of a person Tanya is. That's what being good sisters are about. You share a powerful emotional bond. You know your sister through and through. More than any other relationship sister's share that bond. Where you know when your sister is troubled without her mentioning it, you sit beside your sister while she goes through crappy situations. And you know when your sister screams at you and tells you to go away she really didn't mean it. And something deep inside is killing her. It is also the only relationship on earth where sacrificing is allowed. That's just my side of it. I like what's mine and I won't give it to anyone. But if my sisters needed it I would happily sacrifice everything I had. But ONLY for my sisters. That too happily! Because seeing them happy brings me the greatest joy.

This might not sound right to a lot of you or maybe you just don't share the same sisterly bonds as I do. My sisters mean the world to me! I can do anything for them. I cry when they go through stuff. I laugh when they are happy. When they are in problems and they don't tell me I just pray that everything gets fixed for them. I do everything in my power to bring them little joys.

That brings me to Trish, in her mind she thinks Raj wanted Tanya, And Tanya wanted Raj....then it should be easy. Yes they played you but maybe it took time for them to realize their love. Be happy that they got each other and accept it. She is still very cold about it. Then she mentioned if Tanya ever stole something precious. Is Raj a toy you can steal? he is a grown up man. Does she think Tanya seduced Raj in to getting him or he would've been hers? That's the only place where her Trish's resentment toward Tanya is justified. But right now it seems childish. Maybe not childish but it makes her a bad sister in my eyes. But she never looked like the nice caring sister to begin with! It is being drilled into her over and over again that Raj and Tanya love each other. When Rajdeep mentions Raj finally got his love. or when Tanya's friend said she knew she loved Raj. Or any part where Raj is too protective of Tanya. Then coming in a separate car so he can be alone with her. Or going to honeymoon separately. All this should tell Trish they love each other. She just keeps getting hurt more and more. Her being hurt is acceptable, her being mad seems wrong to me. Shouldn't she be glad that she didn't steal the man her younger sister loved? or She didn't marry Raj when he wanted Tanya? Do you not care about your little sister's happiness?

She is allowed to be mad at Raj though! Full force fury! The guy clearly played you. You thought he loved you . You wanted to marry him and what does he do? marry your own sister. That too when she was in her bridal outfit. That was sad.

Trish has gotten a shock and now after marriage to a nice guy (who by the way she is playing! so if her marriage breaks I won't feel an ounce of sympathy. I would be overjoyed) her shock should be over. All the anger, resentment can stay but the shock should be over. Now she should honestly ask herself and her sister why that happened. Even if her sister doesn't tell her she should keep going after it. She didn't even let Tanya talk. Don't you remember all those times when Tanya looked so distressed? did that not break your heart? or were you too busy not caring?

And sorry to say what the girl is going through is nothing. She had a heartbreak but ended up marrying a good rich guy who loves her. Tanya got raped by a monster and the guy who loves her sister married her. Trish reminds me of my little sister. Nothing seems like a important problem to her except her own. So her hurt feelings are worth everything but even someone dies crying infront of her it doesn't matter much!

Trish is strong, Tanya is not. But Trish is insensitive and Tanya is not. I highly dislike insensitive people. Tanya might be weak, but she really really cares about her family. Every step she has taken she has thought of her family before herself.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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In defence all 9i say is growth, change etc. What U say is 100% correct but these people are all flawed which makes it interesting. Not all sisters are that tight.
The best bit will be when she learns of the truth how she will react and ask for forgiveness or delve deeper into despair.
I take betrayal very seriously but i get over it after a few hours or days depending on the severity that is me. My sister holds a grudge for like ever until she realizes shes in the wrong. Everyone deals with it differently. I'm liking Trish she brings the surprise/fun side to the show without being too mean. She still cares for her sister but in time she'll get over it.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: matwamango

In defence all 9i say is growth, change etc. What U say is 100% correct but these people are all flawed which makes it interesting. Not all sisters are that tight.

The best bit will be when she learns of the truth how she will react and ask for forgiveness or delve deeper into despair.
I take betrayal very seriously but i get over it after a few hours or days depending on the severity that is me. My sister holds a grudge for like ever until she realizes shes in the wrong. Everyone deals with it differently. I'm liking Trish she brings the surprise/fun side to the show without being too mean. She still cares for her sister but in time she'll get over it.

I take betrayal very seriously too! very very seriously. I hold serious grudges till I have thought everything through. yesterday I got mad at my sis and cried my eyes out for hours.. Trish got a shock. Now her shock should be over and I hope she starts thinking things through! I really like her character. But if there is one thing I can't stand in a good relationship is insensitivity. I could even sit through one hiding secrets and other list of things. But insensitivity irks me. That scene really got to me where Trish is throwing Tanya's clothes on the floor. Sorry di as you know I analyze everything. But even if most people saw it as something funny and cute I saw it as someone who has little respect for her little sister's belongings. And one who knows no respects deserves none in my opinion. And she is older. She is expected to be more mature and understanding.
So even though she is a fun character she is a bad sister in the show! I still like her though. But she is still a bad sister.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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i don like her. there is this me me me attitude all around her. yo open ur heart up once in a while and think about someone else beside urself!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Interesting post. You are very lucky to have such a sister bond. I am fortunate to have it too.

But here I go, ladies.

First question: Did you sincerely and realistically put yourself in Trish's shoes without any preconceptions? I did, and I actually respect how she is handling this.

And, no, why should Trish make the best of marrying someone she doesn't love...as if she should appreciate her luck. That is Kul's thought process, and slightly less than human. I know arranged marriages work and people get on with it, but really this scenario is more complicated.

Deep has got $$$, he "loves" Trish or "having Trish." So? That's nice and all, but she loves Yuv only. And why should we expect her to be open-minded and accepting of this?

Giving things up for your sister and letting bygones be bygones, I agree in principle. You can share clothes, money, secrets, experiences, love, BUT sharing a fiance is something that would probably be frowned upon.

This type of betrayal has changed Trish's life. Tanya got raped, but with the help of her family, she should have dealt with it...she did not have to rape others of the things they love. For what??? I'm incredulous.

Other problem I had was with comparing how Trish's anguish was much less than that of Tanya. From where I'm sitting, I've got to answer that with a "hell no"! Rape is horrid, and the person raped may or may not overcome the scars. Tanya is doing pretty well though. No replays in her head, no fear--oh, right, how would that happen when she's so busy marrying her sister's fiance. And from the look on her face, she's not suffering so much from being married to Yuv. She feels guilty, but Tanya strikes me as the type to get over it quickly.

But alas this cheesy track is here to stay, and I have to accept it (ughh). Hopefully Yuv and Trish are reunited.

You mentioned Trish's reaction makes her a "bad sister." So what does it make the innocent Tanya?? Tanya's decisions have ruined her sister's life and future -- maybe Trish will get over it, maybe not.

I guess it is as it is. But it should have never come to this! And Tanya should have just stopped Yuv from what he did. It's really that simple. But then again, Tanya never struck me as someone who makes decisions, but rather just follows along like a little pet.

I believe some of the descriptors are misplaced. I know you mention Trish's insensitivity. But I really have to disagree with you. Poor little Tanya was the insensitive one, period. HER very decision to go ahead with the wedding broke her sister's trust and love. I mean how can it not? Did Tanya even CONSIDER her sister when marrying Yuv, doing the pheras at the mandir? She did NOT; hence, technically, she's the inconsiderate one right?

I know a point was made about how come Trish is letting this thing break her bond with her sister Tanya. Well, this is not a little thing. It is the worst betrayal actually, because it is life-changing and painful. And no, Trish does not have to be forgiving or understanding. I mean how can one forgive such a thing? And this development is going to be in Trish's face for years to come. And getting over such a betrayal like this of Tanya and Yuv is hard and likely impossible. Is it worth a sister's bond? Yes, because Tanya took the most precious thing from Trish: a loving relationship, her vision of her future, and her happiness with Yuv. Tanya's going to have to do a ton of penance first.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Put urself in Tanya's shoes. the girl has no voice to begin with. She was always been the quiet person. and there is nothing wrong with that. she couldn't even save herself from kanaiyah when the sun is out and bright how is she suppose go through something that horrible. And when u r raped, rape victims dont come seek family help. family realizes something is wrong and goes to help instead.

then comes the sindoor. according to them as soon as u put the sindoor u r married. as soon as its off u are not married. now it maybe ur opinion that it doesnt matter but to them it did and raj married her on the spot. I don believe in sindoors i am not even hindu but i respect it. she tried to wipe it off yuvraj stopped it. kudos to her for trying. the marriage blame goes to yuvraj not tanya.

and did i miss a episode? I think i did? was trishna drugged into marrying Rajdeep the innocent guy? was she dragged? was she beaten into marrying him? maybe she was hypnotized? or blackmailed?? if ur answer is anything like family pressure or she was still in a shock or it happened to fast. Then people let me tell u rape's shock is worst. it beats heartbreak. tanya also was under family pressure and etc etc.

if trish's marriage breaks and she ends up suffering the blame is all hers. Yuvraj tried to fix her up with Rajdeep but atleast he had a noble cause in mind. The fact that it didnt work out is out of his control. So the blame is all Trishnas.

Tanyas marriage already happened the second he put the sindoor on. again u might not belive thats how weddings happen but in the show according to them they are married as soon as the maang is filled. So being the good quiet follower she is, she decided not to say anything. But she tried. her sis wouldn't listen to her. Raj and kul told her not to. she saw her sis in pain but atleast she knows she is settled well.

only 2 things bother me in this show and how people are seeing it

1.

ever had a heartbreak? ever thought u couldnt live w/o someone but they turned out to be someone else and broke ur heart. lets hope so. or dont talk about it. it feels like death but it's not that bad. u move on given time. Trishna is lucky to have good husband maybe trish fans r feeling bad because she ended up w/ the uglier guy. as for marriage she wasnt drugged into marrige. she didnt want it then she shouldnt have married him.

2.

now ever got raped? or even had anyone touch u the wrong way who u didnt want. maybe u knew someone who got raped. have u seen what that person goes through?

Kudos to tanya that she is moving on. u want to blame her moving on? if its about telling trish do u know realisticly how many ppl hide their rape. how humiliating it is?

trish doesnt have to forgive her. Forgiving is a very great trait and trish isnt great. she doesnt have to forget either. bad on her part she doesnt have the brain to question a sister she knew all her life. she seeked the answers from the guy. she still doesnt mind to talk to the guy but she wont say a word to tanya. is the guy more important. her pain more looks like that she lost her fav toy and not that her sister did somethign wrong. it doesnt kill her to see tanya who betrayed her or raj who betrayed her. it hurts to see them together because she wanted him for herself. then asking her if she stole someone? why wuld u even want a guy that can be stolen? thank ur lucky stars that he is taken away from u. what does stealing mean? u dont steal people.

to quote u precisely

-- "Deep has got $$$, he "loves" Trish or "having Trish." So? That's nice and all, but she loves Yuv only. And why should we expect her to be open-minded and accepting of this?"

She shouldnt be open minded. But she should listen to what yuv told her. He didn't want to marry a girl like her. If i was her I would be insulted and never look at him again. She married Rajdeep on her own. If u have no plan to move on dont mess up another guys life. But she is moving on kudos to her!

--" This type of betrayal has changed Trish's life. Tanya got raped, but with the help of her family, she should have dealt with it...she did not have to rape others of the things they love. For what??? I'm incredulous."--

trish got betrayed. she didnt have to betray Rajdeep. Tanya didnt have her whole family backing her up. Trish had everyone. Again tanya had no one, she had everyone. dont say well tanya couldve gone and told her family. no thats not how it happens. rape victims dont come and say " hey listen so the other day i got raped, now can u help me?"

-- " You mentioned Trish's reaction makes her a "bad sister." So what does it make the innocent Tanya?? Tanya's decisions have ruined her sister's life and future -- maybe Trish will get over it, maybe not. "--

Nothing makes Tanya a good sister. She made wrong decisions. But overall trish seems like quite insensitive person. And tanya is till the caring one. bottomline she has been crying since the second raj married her. It wasnt for fun or the fact now she missed out on the golden chance to be kanaiyah's wife. its because she hurt her sister. Trish hasnt thought about a single person excet how she lost raj. oh yes she cried!!!! she cried because she lost raj. more because she lost him and she was betrayed.

-- "believe some of the descriptors are misplaced. I know you mention Trish's insensitivity. But I really have to disagree with you. Poor little Tanya was the insensitive one, period. HER very decision to go ahead with the wedding broke her sister's trust and love. I mean how can it not? Did Tanya even CONSIDER her sister when marrying Yuv, doing the pheras at the mandir? She did NOT; hence, technically, she's the inconsiderate one right?"

i know they didnt do any pheras in the mandir, unless i missed it. if i remember correctly the girl was still having nightmares of kanaiyah even after marrying Raj. it's not a state where u think about someone else. then during the whole wedding precess where trish was acting cold i remember tanya crying. and even the wedding she was higly depressed and raj dragged her to it. atleast I can say both times during the wedding she was dragged to it. for trish not a single excuse for cheating rajdeep.

I am not asking trish to forget and forgive but she should question. why wouldnt u question the sister u knew all her life? thats so dumb. and last but not least anyone who wants to talk realisticly and wants to put me in trish's shoes, been there. Go put urself in tanya's shoes now. Give the girl a break. She has been through the most in this show. she does need a backbone though. Hopefully she will get one soon. thats a personality type. Its not something that just happens or u make a decision to be stronger over night. its a process. and since she finally answered trish the other day maybe she is starting to get one.

if u want to take out ur anger because raj and trish separated and she got the uglier guy then blame Raj. he wanted to sacrifice for his best friend who couldnt live w/o trishna. And he decided to save Tanya. Tanya didnt wrap herself over him. why is it that everyone is pointing fingers at tanya rarely anyone at raj?
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wow i wrote a lot. but it was fun. thanx for the topic😃

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whoa! okie! too much to read at 2 am! I will read and reply tomorrow but wow!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: matwamango

In defence all 9i say is growth, change etc. What U say is 100% correct but these people are all flawed which makes it interesting. Not all sisters are that tight.

The best bit will be when she learns of the truth how she will react and ask for forgiveness or delve deeper into despair.
I take betrayal very seriously but i get over it after a few hours or days depending on the severity that is me. My sister holds a grudge for like ever until she realizes shes in the wrong. Everyone deals with it differently. I'm liking Trish she brings the surprise/fun side to the show without being too mean. She still cares for her sister but in time she'll get over it.


I totally agree with you at this point! 😳
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zubi2008

Put urself in Tanya's shoes. the girl has no voice to begin with. She was always been the quiet person. and there is nothing wrong with that. she couldn't even save herself from kanaiyah when the sun is out and bright how is she suppose go through something that horrible. And when u r raped, rape victims dont come seek family help. family realizes something is wrong and goes to help instead.

then comes the sindoor. according to them as soon as u put the sindoor u r married. as soon as its off u are not married. now it maybe ur opinion that it doesnt matter but to them it did and raj married her on the spot. I don believe in sindoors i am not even hindu but i respect it. she tried to wipe it off yuvraj stopped it. kudos to her for trying. the marriage blame goes to yuvraj not tanya.

and did i miss a episode? I think i did? was trishna drugged into marrying Rajdeep the innocent guy? was she dragged? was she beaten into marrying him? maybe she was hypnotized? or blackmailed?? if ur answer is anything like family pressure or she was still in a shock or it happened to fast. Then people let me tell u rape's shock is worst. it beats heartbreak. tanya also was under family pressure and etc etc.

if trish's marriage breaks and she ends up suffering the blame is all hers. Yuvraj tried to fix her up with Rajdeep but atleast he had a noble cause in mind. The fact that it didnt work out is out of his control. So the blame is all Trishnas.

Tanyas marriage already happened the second he put the sindoor on. again u might not belive thats how weddings happen but in the show according to them they are married as soon as the maang is filled. So being the good quiet follower she is, she decided not to say anything. But she tried. her sis wouldn't listen to her. Raj and kul told her not to. she saw her sis in pain but atleast she knows she is settled well.

only 2 things bother me in this show and how people are seeing it

1.

ever had a heartbreak? ever thought u couldnt live w/o someone but they turned out to be someone else and broke ur heart. lets hope so. or dont talk about it. it feels like death but it's not that bad. u move on given time. Trishna is lucky to have good husband maybe trish fans r feeling bad because she ended up w/ the uglier guy. as for marriage she wasnt drugged into marrige. she didnt want it then she shouldnt have married him.

2.

now ever got raped? or even had anyone touch u the wrong way who u didnt want. maybe u knew someone who got raped. have u seen what that person goes through?

Kudos to tanya that she is moving on. u want to blame her moving on? if its about telling trish do u know realisticly how many ppl hide their rape. how humiliating it is?

trish doesnt have to forgive her. Forgiving is a very great trait and trish isnt great. she doesnt have to forget either. bad on her part she doesnt have the brain to question a sister she knew all her life. she seeked the answers from the guy. she still doesnt mind to talk to the guy but she wont say a word to tanya. is the guy more important. her pain more looks like that she lost her fav toy and not that her sister did somethign wrong. it doesnt kill her to see tanya who betrayed her or raj who betrayed her. it hurts to see them together because she wanted him for herself. then asking her if she stole someone? why wuld u even want a guy that can be stolen? thank ur lucky stars that he is taken away from u. what does stealing mean? u dont steal people.

to quote u precisely

-- "Deep has got $$$, he "loves" Trish or "having Trish." So? That's nice and all, but she loves Yuv only. And why should we expect her to be open-minded and accepting of this?"

She shouldnt be open minded. But she should listen to what yuv told her. He didn't want to marry a girl like her. If i was her I would be insulted and never look at him again. She married Rajdeep on her own. If u have no plan to move on dont mess up another guys life. But she is moving on kudos to her!

--" This type of betrayal has changed Trish's life. Tanya got raped, but with the help of her family, she should have dealt with it...she did not have to rape others of the things they love. For what??? I'm incredulous."--

trish got betrayed. she didnt have to betray Rajdeep. Tanya didnt have her whole family backing her up. Trish had everyone. Again tanya had no one, she had everyone. dont say well tanya couldve gone and told her family. no thats not how it happens. rape victims dont come and say " hey listen so the other day i got raped, now can u help me?"

-- " You mentioned Trish's reaction makes her a "bad sister." So what does it make the innocent Tanya?? Tanya's decisions have ruined her sister's life and future -- maybe Trish will get over it, maybe not. "--

Nothing makes Tanya a good sister. She made wrong decisions. But overall trish seems like quite insensitive person. And tanya is till the caring one. bottomline she has been crying since the second raj married her. It wasnt for fun or the fact now she missed out on the golden chance to be kanaiyah's wife. its because she hurt her sister. Trish hasnt thought about a single person excet how she lost raj. oh yes she cried!!!! she cried because she lost raj. more because she lost him and she was betrayed.

-- "believe some of the descriptors are misplaced. I know you mention Trish's insensitivity. But I really have to disagree with you. Poor little Tanya was the insensitive one, period. HER very decision to go ahead with the wedding broke her sister's trust and love. I mean how can it not? Did Tanya even CONSIDER her sister when marrying Yuv, doing the pheras at the mandir? She did NOT; hence, technically, she's the inconsiderate one right?"

i know they didnt do any pheras in the mandir, unless i missed it. if i remember correctly the girl was still having nightmares of kanaiyah even after marrying Raj. it's not a state where u think about someone else. then during the whole wedding precess where trish was acting cold i remember tanya crying. and even the wedding she was higly depressed and raj dragged her to it. atleast I can say both times during the wedding she was dragged to it. for trish not a single excuse for cheating rajdeep.

I am not asking trish to forget and forgive but she should question. why wouldnt u question the sister u knew all her life? thats so dumb. and last but not least anyone who wants to talk realisticly and wants to put me in trish's shoes, been there. Go put urself in tanya's shoes now. Give the girl a break. She has been through the most in this show. she does need a backbone though. Hopefully she will get one soon. thats a personality type. Its not something that just happens or u make a decision to be stronger over night. its a process. and since she finally answered trish the other day maybe she is starting to get one.

if u want to take out ur anger because raj and trish separated and she got the uglier guy then blame Raj. he wanted to sacrifice for his best friend who couldnt live w/o trishna. And he decided to save Tanya. Tanya didnt wrap herself over him. why is it that everyone is pointing fingers at tanya rarely anyone at raj?

wow! mwah! you pretty much said all I wanted to say. So no need for repeating. Not in the writing mood anyways!😆

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