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What do they mean when they said it's a fairy tale ?

Is there given a reason why Raya's and Nadia's son is named Ticket?

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

What do they mean when they said it's a fairy tale ?

There are "fairy tales" which are very cruel and challenging the main protagonists on the emotional level...

Originally posted by: Clochette

Is there given a reason why Raya's and Nadia's son is named Ticket?

So ....

Nadia had kept telling the child that his father would name him. So there is an innocent expectation attached to that future...perhaps a tiny thread connecting the boy to a father he barely knew.

And then that terrible day came.

Raya met his son in front of the destroyed circus, but they never really talked. Raya didn't ask his name. He didn't get that moment of recognition. And then the child died.

His father never named him.

So the child remained nameless in reality.

Which makes the final confrontation almost unbearably sad.

After years of guilt, hallucination and psychological fragmentation, Raya finally stood before the grown-up version of the son he believed survived.

And for the first time, he asks:

"What is your name?"

And Ticket laughs.

That Laughter was with that strange, almost childlike absurdity that defined him.And Raya's son said,

"Ticket. I am that ticket whom people use and then abandon. I am available in different colours-red, blue, green. What is your favourite colour,Daddy?"

That is such a bizarre line on the surface.

But underneath it, it's devastating.

It's an ordinary question.Almost absurdly ordinary.

A father asking his son his name...His son asking him what his favourite colour is...

These are the moments Raya and his son never got.

Because Raya is finally naming the son he never got to name.

And the answer isn't a traditional name.

It's a metaphor for abandonment.

A ticket is something you use to get somewhere... and then discard.

And then Ticket started talking about being used and abandoned.

That isn't really a child's biography.That's Raya's interpretation of his own guilt.

And suddenly that description sounded like the child's entire existence through Raya's fractured mind.

Born into circumstances he didn't choose.Loved by his mother.Abandoned by his father.

Carrying the wound of being left behind.

And eventually becoming the very embodiment of Raya's guilt...

So his mind names him after what he believes he did to him.Raya believed he used his son as an emotional passage into a different life and then abandoned him when circumstances became unbearable.

And suddenly the most absurd name in the film becomes perhaps its saddest word.

Because all his life Raya had only run, never confronted his realities,his trauma,his grief or sins...Raya spent his entire life trying to move forward.

Ticket was the one person he could never leave behind...

This is how I interpreted it......Others may interpret it differently

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

What do they mean when they said it's a fairy tale ?

Because Raya is almost a fairytale prince turned inside out

He is larger than life. He has an almost mythical rise..from a traumatised child to a feared and powerful man. His world contains gangsters who feel larger than ordinary human beings, extravagant settings, circus imagery, almost surreal violence, mysterious identities and dreamlike visual transitions...He finds love as well...

But .. But underneath that fantastical surface is a very adult question:

What happens to a child who grows up believing that violence is the language of love?

That's not a children's fairytale.That's a grown-up one.

Raya isn't fighting a dragon.He becomes one.

And the real dragon he eventually has to confront is his own guilt,his own trauma and the man he has become..

So the film takes the grammar of a fairytale and fills it with adult things that fairytales usually hide: trauma, lust, violence, guilt, abandonment, possession, death and psychological fragmentation....Here there is consequences of every decision and action..

And there is no uncomplicated happily-ever-after...

So in my interpretation ,it is called "Fairytale for grown ups"

Originally posted by: asmitamohanty

Because Raya is almost a fairytale prince turned inside out

He is larger than life. He has an almost mythical rise..from a traumatised child to a feared and powerful man. His world contains gangsters who feel larger than ordinary human beings, extravagant settings, circus imagery, almost surreal violence, mysterious identities and dreamlike visual transitions...He finds love as well...

But .. But underneath that fantastical surface is a very adult question:

What happens to a child who grows up believing that violence is the language of love?

That's not a children's fairytale.That's a grown-up one.

Raya isn't fighting a dragon.He becomes one.

And the real dragon he eventually has to confront is his own guilt,his own trauma and the man he has become..

So the film takes the grammar of a fairytale and fills it with adult things that fairytales usually hide: trauma, lust, violence, guilt, abandonment, possession, death and psychological fragmentation....Here there is consequences of every decision and action..

And there is no uncomplicated happily-ever-after...

So in my interpretation ,it is called "Fairytale for grown ups"

Wow this sounds wild.

Out of 10 what rating would you give this film ?