Dowry Deaths in India – Another Daughter Lost, A Society Questioned. - Page 6

Originally posted by: Sam111

Unfortunately society is so f**ed up that they prefer victims to die than being alive and fight for justice. When it comes to women and her rights there is no strict laws that are actually executed. You know years before there used to be birth control pills for men too but due to extreme side effects they stopped for men and imposed it on women. Even in hospitals when we consult for treatment of gynaec problems their first thought is about non existent children who we give birth in future. Our body our health can go to hell but they want uterus to be ready for birth. Are we baby producing machines or what? Education has nothing to do with all stone age outdated mindsets. Practically implementing strict laws is only possible when people comes to streets and fight for this cause.

bold: I agree that t h i s would/should be o n e of the actions necessary but it should/could never be the o n l y one to get a change... didn't we witness what politics did when, in January 2023, Indian wrestlers began protesting for investigation into allegations of sexual harassment of female wrestlers by Brij Bhushan Sharan Singh during his tenure as the president of the Wrestling Federation of India???

Who has the influence of not only making laws but also watch for them getting respected???

Apparently Twisha is bipolar & there was no physical or mental abuse. How men play the victim card!! Shows how unfair the law can be if the lawmakers themselves are questioned. Pathetic state of affairs.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/twisha-sharma-bipolar-relationship-troubled-cbi-to-decode-husband-samarth-singhs-claims-11547890/amp/1

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Apparently Twisha is bipolar & there was no physical or mental abuse. How men play the victim card!! Shows how unfair the law can be if the lawmakers themselves are questioned. Pathetic state of affairs.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/twisha-sharma-bipolar-relationship-troubled-cbi-to-decode-husband-samarth-singhs-claims-11547890/amp/1

While investigating, the focus should remain on facts, evidence, investigation, and accountability, not on character labels. If there was truly no physical or mental abuse, let an impartial investigation establish that transparently. Reducing an entire tragedy to “she was bipolar” risks turning mental health into a defence mechanism instead of addressing the real questions.

The larger tragedy is that every time a woman’s suffering is explained, the convicts will start victim-blaming and try to defame the dead person and her family.

Another Point

Let's talk about Another POV

The Normalisation Of Dowry through Social Media

https://www.reddit.com/r/InstaCelebsGossip/comments/1tl90lx/vivan_and_his_pick_me_mom_should_see_such_videos/

https://www.reddit.com/r/InstaCelebsGossip/comments/1tkn47j/the_motherson_duo_is_so_problematic_inframe_vivan/

https://www.reddit.com/r/InstaCelebsGossip/comments/1qs51wv/in_frame_arun_panwaryoutuber_with_24_million/

As you can see above examples,even many SM Creators are promoting and normalising dowry for clout

The problematic Son-Mom Duo are prime example for so called Modern Society members who normalise dowry for engagement from male audience

The Mom wearing Jeans and Top reflects that part of social fabric which are modern in terms of Dressing,language but backward in thinking

This influences the audience which is mainly 13-21 aged males in a wrong way

The mom encourages the patriachial and sexist thoughts which in turn makes the target audience agree and give comments like

"Aunty rocked!Feminist shocked!!!!💀💀"

Not going much in detail but I hope you can understand what I meant to say

‘Young life lost’: HC denies bail to woman over daughter-in-law’s death.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/delhi-news/young-life-lost-hc-denies-bail-to-woman-over-daughter-in-law-s-death-101779907748830.html

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Twisha wasn’t an unknown face. She was an actor/model, she was educated, and still faced such brutality. She was character-assassinated even after she passed away. I cannot imagine the horrors that countless other Twishas might be facing.

The worst part is that there’s no one to give them the justice they deserve, nor will their cases get the coverage this one did.

Till the day parents decide that any family that asks for explicit or implicit dowry does not deserve their daughter, countless such women will face the same fate. Daughters are not money-making, child-bearing, or abuse-bearing machines. Nor are they some burden that needs to kept down. They are living, breathing human beings, just like men.

I think parents need to realize that it’s not just their duty to marry her off because society is putting pressure on them. It’s important who she is marrying—what the man is like, what his family is like, and what the extended family is like too. (Especially in India)

The main problem starts when parents think that after marriage, their duty is completed. This is not a to-do journal where items are checked off after completion. Till the day they are alive, they are responsible for their daughter’s well-being, comfort, and life. The confidence that comes from knowing your parents will always stand by you, no matter what, makes a girl infinitely brave.

Instead of giving dowry, parents can gift their daughters property—anything from a piece of land to a furnished house—with strong legal clauses that ensures it cannot be transferred, sold, or treated as community property. That way, they can ensure she will always have a roof over her head and will not have to depend on her in-laws or her husband for money or security. Financial independence is the best gift a girl can have in this patriarchal society. Make your daughters self-sufficient and confident enough to speak up against such monsters.

It’s sad that even the government hasn’t done enough to enforce stricter protections against such horrors. What are we even expecting when a heinous crime like marital rape still lacks full legal recognition in India? The high priest in the so called temple of justice has declared that passing such a law would “interfere” in the marriage. And we expect justice from these lawmakers? After all, they are part of the same system that often prefers to maintain the status quo.

And until we break this pattern —
there will always be another “Twisha.

This ..

As a society we must stop being emotional about these things & draft a pre nup agreement .. in all fairness to the boy and the girl and their families , this is the best way forward ..

Whatever the girls family gives should be to their daughter ..why should they give boys family anything? Every daughter is precious , nowadays girls are educated & independent so there is no question of dowry ..

"Shadi achi kar dena" is another sneaky statement to put pressure on girls family ..thereafter every occasion is a means to "show respect" to in laws ..having a baby the girls side gifts ..someone dies in boys family , the girls side pays ..and everything ..

And sorry to say , its all being propagated by the upper class and middle.class and lower class follow suit..

Hi everyone,

Today, I am sharing this with a deeply emotional heart and immense gratitude towards each one of you. Every member here is not merely a participant in a discussion thread, but a committed voice standing against social evils that continue to wound countless lives silently.

Our discussions on dowry harassment, cruelty, and dowry deaths have now begun appearing prominently on the first page of Google. It may seem like a small achievement on the surface, but in reality, it carries a profound meaning, somewhere, many unknown people are reading our words, reflecting on these painful realities, and perhaps awakening to the need for change.

Every thought shared here, every emotional response, every strong argument against injustice by all of you, and every compassionate message for victims has become part of a collective social voice. Together, we are proving that discussions are not meaningless when they are driven by sincerity, conscience, and commitment towards humanity.

This thread is no longer just a conversation space... it has become a small movement of awareness where people from different backgrounds stand united against cruelty and injustice. If even one family rethinks about greed, if even one person gains courage to speak against abuse, or if even one life is touched by awareness through our discussions, then our efforts are truly meaningful.

Let us continue this journey with the same commitment, sensitivity, and responsibility. And let us wholeheartedly thank India Forums, our Vijay and our CM Devashree_h for giving us this platform and opportunity to spread meaningful messages that may inspire positive change in society.

Proud and grateful to stand among such thoughtful and socially conscious voices. 🙏Credit goes to each one of you.

Let us remain committed to spreading empathy, social responsibility, and good values through this platform with the hope that future generations may inherit a more compassionate society.

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Originally posted by: Krinya

This ..

As a society we must stop being emotional about these things & draft a pre nup agreement .. in all fairness to the boy and the girl and their families , this is the best way forward ..

Whatever the girls family gives should be to their daughter ..why should they give boys family anything? Every daughter is precious , nowadays girls are educated & independent so there is no question of dowry ..

"Shadi achi kar dena" is another sneaky statement to put pressure on girls family ..thereafter every occasion is a means to "show respect" to in laws ..having a baby the girls side gifts ..someone dies in boys family , the girls side pays ..and everything ..

And sorry to say , its all being propagated by the upper class and middle.class and lower class follow suit..

Upper crust are the biggest enablers of dowry imo. They start giving these costly gifts and spend lavishly, it tempts other people, regardless of their stature to flaunt a marriage as if it’s some kind of competition. That, in turn, puts a massive pressure on the girl’s family to fulfill the wishes of the groom’s family or better said, “demands”.

It goes as far as gifting the groom for every occasion, in the name of traditions. Naye naye thareeka apnathe hain to make sure they can always control the bride’s family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvMQP7M0AIY

Saw this shared by someone on IG.... You can clearly see girl's family doesn't consider her 'burden' per say. Infact they're good people... Victim's father actually arranged for cold water and coolers for people visiting for condolences. You can say her family loves her.

But this system of dowry is so in their bones that it's normal. That's why women need legal protection and strict actions. Quicker judgements and law and order.

Ideally , I would want a whole revamp of this marriage system in india...why should the girls alone leave her parents? The boy should also leave his parents & the couple must stay independent and learn to live by themselves..more than half of the girls life goes in pleasing her in laws, listening to their taunts & fulfill all the expectations...she has zero freedom as long as in laws are around... Earn , cook, have babies , look after the in laws but when her parents need her , she shouldn't visit them..

she ends up spending more time with her in laws , rather than her husband or her parents ..The boy may earn but he wont help with the chores , the girl must earn & also do the chores ..she may be dead tired but its her responsibility to cook & feed her family ...the girls cant support her parents but the boy must ....im not talking about the privileged ones but the majority of the middle & lower class families ..

Only when they have this system of "vidai of boy" with the girl , will parents stop flaunting their boys like trophies & expect loads of money frm them after marriage ..

This very mindset tht "we educate the girl ,.spend so much on her and she leaves us n marry into another family ..on the contrary boy marries gets a big dowry" is the root of all problems including female foeticide..