Global Alert: US–Israel's Major Military Operations against Iran🔥#2 - Page 51

Originally posted by: Clochette

That's what I maintained all along (being vehemently against) - that a religion is used as a political system...

Hitler is another case as he didn't made Christianism a political base of his government... h i s base was the 'Aryan supremacy' (albeit he physically - and most probably also with Jewish genes - wasn't his propagated example of an Aryan)... he made the Jews the 'Enemy-image' for various reasons/agendas, also used the mentally ill ones and unwanted children as fodder for abominable medical experiments... he duped the youth into his thinking (which got supported by greedy people, the SS agency of surveillance = terror and a well-crafted, manipulating propaganda) and then he wanted territorial expansion...

In different ways, history repeats itself - constantly... because humans are made with a 'default in their machine'...

Why don’t you realize. Smoke and mirrors don’t work. History repeats blah blah.

the single biggest problem the world faces today is Islamic extremism and terrorism. Hitler was an evil monster. The world knows that. He is history. Islamic extremism/terrorism is today’s problem and far worse.

To highlight it and acknowledge it and to deal with it is the reason Netahanyu is considered to be doing Gods own work in Gaza and Iran as well as dealing with Hezbollah. Just because Clochette says this war isn’t about Islamic extremism despite all the facts of the Islamic extremist regime’s terror doesn’t make it so. You yourself posted the front page of an Aussie newspaper and yet had the guts to say it isn’t about that. That front page was but a fraction of what Iran has done. Obliterated parsis and bahais even.

You should definitely spend time researching all these topics that you ask us to. At least then you won’t waste time defending with the whataboutery.

Remember. I am Charlie Hebdo.

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Now who wants to debate with me that Pakistan having to pay for its sins is long overdue. This is how they think.

Originally posted by: KingGodzilla

Iran, an Islamic state, operates based on Islamic beliefs within its political framework called a Sharia law. It’s not personal anymore when everyone is forced to wear a burkqa, and if they don’t, then they will be killed. I’m not attacking anyone, I’m citing facts that you can’t handle. I don’t care about your feelings.

Iraq operates on Sharia Law is a fact and so does many other countries including Israel.

May not be as strict as that of Iran but still operates on Sharia Law.

So is USA attacking every other country following Sharia Law?

If not then why Iraq?

Only because of Islamic extremism or is there any other reason?

Just remember 1/5 of the world oil move through hurmuz . So if oil prices doubled in the few next months. Everything else price in the world will double.

Nathu, again you misunderstood... I'm not here to change someone else's thinking, I just contribute with mine like it should be in a good discussion...and no, I didn't start to insult another member and I'm not against Beginners... however I would call them out when they come with a certain agenda such as the last line of an otherwise quite reasonable first post: "One should hope that what began with Palestine, now Iran continues and next on list are Pakistan and Bangladesh amongst others."

What had been done in Palestine was heinous - from both sides... now Iran again is a war not done for any good...and then what? a likewise heinous war against Pakistan and Bangladesh? For what? From whom? India? Does this member wants that India enters into a war with Pakistan and Bangladesh to "eradicate" (word later used) Islamic extremism/Islam used for a political system (Sharia law)??? All the so-called "awareness" you want to spread, what will it change?making more people haters? And then - like Germans did when Hitler/Goebbels asked in Germany "Do you want total war?"- applaud another war?

I know that change is something that has to start by oneself - it's an unconscious or conscious decision the mind takes with an influence on the emotions. So, I don't worry about my change but more about how the tone and the focus in the first war thread drastically changed when Cynical1 'came on board'.

You aren't the only one, Nathu, who reminds the members here about the bad deeds done by Islamic extremists and what a kind of ennemies they and Pakistan are to India/Indians and I don't have any difficulties to understand the fears/anger/hate. Let us leave it at that - I don't want any dispute about that anymore as we 'are at cross purposes'. I also would like people fighting against extremism (Islamic being o n e), but in another way...and in an h o n e s t way by also looking at the own faults which could lead to extremism.

The history of Germany and Europe is very different from the history of Indian subcontinent.. Many times the west and its media draws this parallel between a supremacist Hitler and a supremacist Hindutva.... Both Islam and Christianity were expansionist in our experience of history.. However Hindus at least in last 1000 years have not done any territorial expansion... In fact their influence has only shrunk - both population wise and territory wise.. While political system of Islam and Christianity were used for proselytization and territorial expansion, Hindutva as a political system is only a defense mechanism to prevent from loosing further land and safeguard our temples and our ways and philosophies of life, which come under continuous threat merely because of our ways of worship is at odds with the monotheists ... While religion being used as a political system - be it Islam or Christianity or Hindutva is true, the end goal they wish to achieve is very different ... Expansion and survival can't be judged with the same yardstick

Originally posted by: Clochette

That's what I maintained all along (being vehemently against) - that a religion is used as a political system...

Hitler is another case as he didn't made Christianism a political base of his government... h i s base was the 'Aryan supremacy' (albeit he physically - and most probably also with Jewish genes - wasn't his propagated example of an Aryan)... he made the Jews the 'Enemy-image' for various reasons/agendas, also used the mentally ill ones and unwanted children as fodder for abominable medical experiments... he duped the youth into his thinking (which got supported by greedy people, the SS agency of surveillance = terror and a well-crafted, manipulating propaganda) and then he wanted territorial expansion...

In different ways, history repeats itself - constantly... because humans are made with a 'default in their machine'...

But still there was still something twisted about Hitler.

He did heinous crimes against a certain group of humanity.

But he was also the one to bring German on the World Map with Volkswagen (People’s Car).

He wanted to take over the Western World and hence he was one of the main player for the events of World War II, but it was him who made people all over the world take German seriously in automobile industry, which has continued since.

Originally posted by: Clochette

Nathu, again you misunderstood... I'm not here to change someone else's thinking, I just contribute with mine like it should be in a good discussion...and no, I didn't start to insult another member and I'm not against Beginners... however I would call them out when they come with a certain agenda such as the last line of an otherwise quite reasonable first post: "One should hope that what began with Palestine, now Iran continues and next on list are Pakistan and Bangladesh amongst others."

You only wrote in your last post that if I stopped wasting my intelligence on hate then that would make you happy. By saying that You are giving the key to your happiness in MY hands. I want you to take control of your own happiness and stop relying on me or others for that. Come on, Just try you can do that! 👍

What had been done in Palestine was heinous - from both sides... now Iran again is a war not done for any good...and then what? a likewise heinous war against Pakistan and Bangladesh? For what? From whom? India? Does this member wants that India enters into a war with Pakistan and Bangladesh to "eradicate" (word later used) Islamic extremism/Islam used for a political system (Sharia law)??? All the so-called "awareness" you want to spread, what will it change?making more people haters? And then - like Germans did when Hitler/Goebbels asked in Germany "Do you want total war?"- applaud another war?

I think I'm not the right person to reply to that. However the so called 'awareness' i want to spread will shift the responsibility of change from extremists to us normal people. Instead of expecting extremists to change (which they probably won't), us normal people will change ourselves to better protect us from the extremists. Isn't this a better methodology? But, I'm sure you will disagree. No problem from my side. I won't try to change you or your thinking. I'll just change myself in dealing with you.

I know that change is something that has to start by oneself - it's an unconscious or conscious decision the mind takes with an influence on the emotions. So, I don't worry about my change but more about how the tone and the focus in the first war thread drastically changed when Cynical1 'came on board'.

Well, what can i say, everything is temporary except change. Don't worry about the tone or focus about threads... Thankfully We have mods for that. Why burden yourself with that responsibility. In previous thread too one member was posting unrelated conspiracy theories, epstein files, secret society, Baal and what not. I didn't see you objecting then.

You aren't the only one, Nathu, who reminds the members here about the bad deeds done by Islamic extremists and what a kind of ennemies they and Pakistan are to India/Indians and I don't have any difficulties to understand the fears/anger/hate. Let us leave it by that - I don't want any dispute about that anymore as we 'are at cross purposes'. I also would like people fighting against extremism (Islamic being o n e), but in another way...and in an h o n e s t way by also looking at the own faults which could lead to extremism.

Thank you. To each their own.

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Originally posted by: Clochette

Nathu, again you misunderstood... I'm not here to change someone else's thinking, I just contribute with mine like it should be in a good discussion...and no, I didn't start to insult another member and I'm not against Beginners... however I would call them out when they come with a certain agenda such as the last line of an otherwise quite reasonable first post: "One should hope that what began with Palestine, now Iran continues and next on list are Pakistan and Bangladesh amongst others."

What had been done in Palestine was heinous - from both sides... now Iran again is a war not done for any good...and then what? a likewise heinous war against Pakistan and Bangladesh? For what? From whom? India? Does this member wants that India enters into a war with Pakistan and Bangladesh to "eradicate" (word later used) Islamic extremism/Islam used for a political system (Sharia law)??? All the so-called "awareness" you want to spread, what will it change?making more people haters? And then - like Germans did when Hitler/Goebbels asked in Germany "Do you want total war?"- applaud another war?

I know that change is something that has to start by oneself - it's an unconscious or conscious decision the mind takes with an influence on the emotions. So, I don't worry about my change but more about how the tone and the focus in the first war thread drastically changed when Cynical1 'came on board'.

You aren't the only one, Nathu, who reminds the members here about the bad deeds done by Islamic extremists and what a kind of ennemies they and Pakistan are to India/Indians and I don't have any difficulties to understand the fears/anger/hate. Let us leave it at that - I don't want any dispute about that anymore as we 'are at cross purposes'. I also would like people fighting against extremism (Islamic being o n e), but in another way...and in an h o n e s t way by also looking at the own faults which could lead to extremism.

I am glad the tone changed when I came pn board. It’s common courtesy to tag a member when mentioning them. Even when attacking them like you attack me in almost every post of yours.

Yes. Pakistan and Bangladesh will pay for their sins. And I am the one that said they should be next. US DNI confirmed my views just this week. So it’s not like I sit in my ivory tower and imagine these things. You tried to attribute their mass killings of minorities to mass migration. Migration where ? To heaven? So we should be ok to return that favor to those countries - no? We are happy to also say it was mass migration. Whatever floats your boat.

An intelligent exchange can only take place when one accepts the reality of current world problems and biggest one being Islamic extremism and terrorism. Then the next step is identifying who is working hard to solve them. There comes Netahanyu and Modi.

Intelligent conversations cannot happen with people that propagate falsities of hindutva because it suits them amongst other things. Definitely not with people that blame the govt of Afghanistan as terrorist to defend the Pakistan bombing of a hospital there.

Remember. I am Charlie Hebdo. The tone will change when I am onboarded. Everything is as it should be now that I am here and onboard