Originally posted by: ChaoticTangles
Thanks for the update moor,... Seems like there is little bit movement in story but with trp dropping how long can they stretch more...
After reading your update I watched the episode so putting things from my pov...., actually I too didn't get vik's stance regarding rotu until now... But today vik's scene did give input into his though process regarding rotu... I feel he is in heart vs mind kind of scenario,a moral dilemma.... His heart loves them, knows they love him, wants to forgive them and apologize to them... But his brain doesn't let him do that because irrespective of what vish's truth is, rotu themselves accepted they did few things..and all those things disheveled a family,their actions did lot of injustice to a family...
We might be looking at rotu from perspective of them being vik's parents and mannat's in-laws, thats why give them a lot of bod...but if we keep mannat and Vik aside and think of rotu's actions from a neutral perspective, they are so very gruesome in their actions.. their actions completely destroyed a family... A man lost his life, his mother has to live away from her son, grandson.. One of his son was taken away from his family another son has to live away from his father and brother.. and all this irrespective of vish's actions... Irrespective of vish's actions.. Rotu were also responsible for all of these.... and instead of standing by the family who they wronged they bought of their child and escaped to London, all this because they had money.... They misused their property to hide crimes against a family and bought of a child.. So what vish is at fault how does it let go of neetu doing accident and then ronnie trying to cover it up with money and then buying of a child.. Even if dadi Or vish offered the child for money, how was ronnie fine putting a child through that much trouble to take him away from his family.. , he was fine putting a child through all of that mental trauma just for his wife's obsession...
Vik is going through moral dilemma....wether to let go of their crimes because of his relation to them or hold them accountable for doing so much injustice to a family...he wants to forgive rotu, but the things that rotu did are very difficult to let go... he would have let it go considering he love them, they love him and reunited with them if they didnt leave the town.. But them leaving town just overnight made him feel they don't want him in their life , I would have preferred vik atleast returning their property and think that according to his character traits he would have and him not returning is just a loophole but even if we try to understand it from story perspective.. Then just like above heart vs mind,moral dilemma.. his heart might want to give away the property, but his mind fears if he returns the property it would be unjust to the family who lost so much because of them ,their actions and them using their property to hide their crimes....
and he never searched for them because he knows mannat and rotu choose each other and are there for each other and will support each other...so he just let them be and not push his way through their life..
And this is what it hurts vik regarding mannat too... What all vik did when he went overboard with DM allegations is wrong that's when the weight of mistakes shifted onto vik in case of manvik.. but until then mannat was more in the wrong, her white lie is still fine, she apologized for it.. but then her supporting rotu over vik who is in so much trauma was wrong, I know she is trying to put the entire truth in front of vik but her way of supporting rotu just because vish was more evil is wrong, irrespective of what vish did... What rotu did to vik and his family is very wrong, she shouldn't have prioritized them over vik.. she should have understood the pain of betrayal vik felt regarding rotu and let him deal with his trauma, and then made him realise the truth and convinced him of giving rotu another chance...
At that time neetu has ronnie, ronnie has neetu what vik did in anger is wrong but ronnie would have gotten neetu out of jail, ronnie losing property was harsh but neetu was there with him to support him and all these for 2-3 days..and dk could manage being sad for two days......but all vik had was mannat, he lost everything all at once and was in trauma...mannat should have prioritized him for timebeing instead of justifying rotu or dk and later after a day Or two should have confronted vik for his mistakes and convinced vik of forgiving them and give them another chance.....any way what ever mannat did ,vik had no right to doubt her loyalty,thats where he crossed the line.... after that mannat shouldn't have prioritised or supported vik but until that point mannat was wrong in not prioritizing vik and this is what hurted vik that she is fighting with him for the people who did so much injustice to him.....
Even now she doesn't hold rotu accountable for what they did to vik.. she rightfully points out vik was wrong in his behavior with rotu that day but why doesn't she hold rotu accountable for their mistakes with vik,she considers them as only victims in this scenario, while both vik and rotu are victims of each other......mannat being angry on vik for what he did to her is completely right she is more victim in case of manvik... but in case of rotu-vik both are victims of each other..
And as far as vik not helping neetu earlier, for us it might be over a week but it's just few hours for him... after knowing about neetu's condition the first thing he remembered is him denying money to mannat... but at that point it didn't occur to him that mannat might be still searching for money.. it was later during conversation with vish he realised may be mannat might have not been able to arrange money after he denied and that's when he decided to help.. as I said he would have anyway helped neetu even if it means going against vish promise, but meanwhile he found a way to deal with both scenarios and he opted it... As far as it not occuring as a instinct to him... then even it didn't occur as instinct to mannat to agree to a business deal for neetu's life... I know making her daughter a business deal is not something she would like.. but still its about someone's life vs death situation... It's not like dua is participating in something wrong or mannat has to force dua.. It's just a cooking competition and dua herself is so interested in cooking and competition.. so it should have occured to her as an instinct to take up a harmless deal for some one in a life and death situation... but mannat didn't, she needed push from DK to act on it... And in same way vik need push from situations to solve the issues..
This is just what I understood from the very confusing narrative of the show.. 
Interesting points.... I disagree with some of them
first off... not sure how much you have read of my analysis ever since Vish-DK entered the show...
1. I have never said Mannat is right in supporting RoTu wholeheartedly or even ignoring their mistakes.... what I have always said is Mannat chose lesser evil of the two. Lets be honest that there is no character in the show who is completely right... not even Saint Shruti and Victim Vikrant... everyone has done some mistakes at some point of time and they are paying the price of it. and its a nicely written content that we are still debating the rights and wrongs 60 episodes post leap 
2. What I do look for in this context is the intent of the action... whether it was to create harm or protect someone... and there are of course moral dilemmas to it since a right to one character is wrong for other. Same goes for audience. My right can be your wrong.
3. Vish and DK do not exist in the OG show... they were brought in to whitewash RoTu and in hindsight... possibly to bring in the leap as well. Neetu's crimes were justified by Mannat herself with some illogical reasoning (post the skit) which doesnt fit with what the audience has seen till that point. But thats how the story has changed so no point going over it again and again. We are to accept Neetu reformed on her own and Mannat had no role to play.
4. In hindsight again, this drugging and lying was never supposed to resolve because it was needed for leap. Had they told Vik, leap ki jarurat nahi padti... either Vik would have stayed with RoTu and Mannat or he would have left RoTu and gone to Vish. Agar Vish ko villain nahi banana hota to scenario 2 hota and RoTu would have exited the show... but that cant happen because then Aish and Malla become irrelevant since this show has a basic premise of money issue. So again, lets not discuss again and again why Mannat didnt reveal the truth or DK did not jail Vish or why Neetu blackmailed Mannat etc etc. Its pointless.
Red: I do not believe we can put the entire blame on Ronnie. he brought Aman back to hospital and offered money for Bhushans treatment. Had Vish accepted the money and Bhushan survived, Kumar family would not have broken. Neetu did not kill Bhushan, it was an accident because she was not mentally stable. His real killer is his wife Vishakha who let him die and did not get him treated.
Was Ronnie wrong in accepting the offer for a kid... yes... but what he did and why he did can probably be understood with Neetu's current situation. We have not got insights into that time period but Neetu's present condition is how I presume it would have been after biological Vikrants death. Even now Neetu's treatment is Vikrant and Viks presence alone... for her unknown bimaari... if the audience is okay with Vik and Neetu reestablishing their relationship right now because both are suffering, is it really wrong if Ronnie took the morally questionable decision few years back?
Hopefully now that Vikrant says he will go back to being Aman Kumar, we might get some insights into what exactly went wrong with baby Vikrant.
Green: second green is exactly what would have happened, glad you see it that way too ... Mannat did not leave Vik... she was not planning to... she tried to contact him even after suffering the humiliation and she was waiting for him on the funeral day. It was perhaps the divorce paper and rejection of her pregnancy which hurt her the most. I have seen people question why did Mannat believe Malla? But from her pov, Mannat had seen the worst of Vik a day before neither was she in a condition to have rational thoughts when Shrutis pyre was still burning. At that point, a pregnant woman with her penniless and homeless parents had no option but to lean on DK who had pre decided to move to Dehradun. They literally had no other option but to go with DK.
Pink: Like red... Pink is where Mannats reaction was probably justified to some degree... she was trying to avoid the same trauma Vik is suffering right now... in post leap. If Ro tried to avoid the trauma for Neetu, Mannat did the same for Vik. Its a morally debatable question whether they had the right to decide for their spouse or not... but I will go back to point no 2 of mine.... what were Mannats intentions behind hiding the truth? Was it to harm Vik or protect him? She also had her own experience to deal with it. another of the change from OG where Cennet was actively involved in bringing out Selims past while Mannat was trying to suppress it ... she had seen Viks panic attacks and she had weighed both sides of the story... where RoTu looked better in comparison. Mannat also had her own identity crisis situation as experience where she preferred her foster mother than her biological mother.
Agar Mannat aur RoTu chupane main successful hote to Vik ko aaj jo trauma hai vo nahi hota. Sometimes a white lie is better than harsher truth... something Vik might understand after he starts seeing true colors of Vishakha.
Purple: i do not agree... it did not come out like that in the episode yesterday which is why I ranted.... Vik could have done this secretly with all his money power and wherewithal (this being Tandons hospital) without trying to be a villain in Mannats eyes. He could have remained a secret donor and there was no need for any of the angry confrontations that happened in this week. The only positive from this that can come out is Mannat may soon understand that Aish was the one who stole money from her. She hasnt made that connnection yet. I would have considered him a BDB then.. now to me... asli BDB is Dua and Yuvi.
Teal: do not agree to this either. Mannat sees it as a price for Dua. She was always against Dua joining the competition for prize money. She wanted Dua to be a chef because she likes cooking, not because Dua needs to earn money for her family. Thats ghar ke adults ka job. Moreover, the prize money is 10L while Vik is giving 25L... and he is not giving it to other kids, is he? He is giving it only to Dua. Neither he is giving it to Dua after her win... which would have been still a rightful earning.
So he is certainly making a deal for Dua's presence as participant... not for her talent. someone on X rightfully said that its like child labour.
My problem with Vikrants character is and was that he never bothers to check or even ponder if there is an alternative version to the 'truth' shown to him. He has always received the second version also on platter... mostly due to Mannats doing and it is one character trait I dont like about him. Whereas time and again, she has been proved right even when she is against him.
My bare minimum expectation from him and him alone (I dont keep any expectations from DK because to me he can never have a growth or 'do the right thing' option ) is Vikrant starts using his brain cells, investigate a little more and not believe everything on face value. People do make a fool of him and thats very irritating to see as an audience when even Malla looks smarter than him, mocks him in his absence. 
Thankfully in the last 2 episodes, he has started venting out his frustrations to the witches gang. small mercies.
This was fun... at least you do see the other side logically unlike bashing just one character to justify the MLs actions. 
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I too can write on Vik and other characters without hailing DK 
Edited by Moor278 - 6 hours ago
, oh there is one difference, Vikrant is surrounded by murderers. 
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