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Posted: 4 days ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

From what I remember, Karan was attacked and nearly killed. I remember someone had attacked him in the stomach with a knife.

Damini’s parents particularly her father already intensely disliked Karan as he was an illegitimate child and disapproved of him for their daughter but had bend to her will when she was adamant she’d marry only Karan now that she has reconnected with him again after they made her leave Australia and settle in India just to get her away from him. They can’t force her a second time else she would kill herself. But on the day of their marriage Karan doesn’t show up as he’s bleeding and almost dies.

Gautam was her boss and invited to the wedding. He then starts talking ill about Karan and says he expected nothing better from a son of a woman like Mandira. He got her already distressed and pissed off parents even madder at Karan and by extension Damini. Then her mom and dad made a scene that Karan didn’t show up to humiliate them by abandoning her like this on her wedding day at her Mandap as an act of revenge tor rejecting him previously. An idea that Gautam himself planted in their head by speaking about how Mandira, his mom had trapped his dad Mihir nearly in marriage and wrecked his parents marriage.

Her dad then is like who will marry you now, Damini. How will I face the world, let me die… you know the drill.

Gautam then gallantly steps up like a noble soul who cannot watch others suffer. He offers to marry Damini in that very mandap and then her parents obviously are like you are such a great person and Damini is made to marry Gautam there and then.

Karan finds out about the marriage in the hospital. Because he wasn’t meant to die but suffer losing a loved one like Gautam was suffering from losing Teesha and their child.

No one ever called Gautam’s act wrong. Damini was asked to mend her way when she wanted revenge from Gautam and ruin him for doing what he did because now he was her husband and what was done was done. Her parents liked Gautam better than Karan, she was married into a *cough* decent, reputable family to a *double cough* nice man, so what more could she want?

Ansh was killed because what he did was not something they could brush aside and bury under a carpet and make it look rosy and shiny. Had he been patient with Nandini and actually proven to be a decent husband to her who could wait until she was willing to take their marriage ahead and consummate their relationship, and THEN been exposed; he would’ve been forgiven too.

His impatience and his monstrosity led to his death. Had he been patient and smarter, more cunning and less brash, even he would have gotten away with all that he did to separate Karan and Nandini. Karan would be expected to make peace with it because Nandini chose to move on and was now his younger brother’s wife. So he better find a new girl or suck it up and die single.

Mittali’s insults are mean because poor Hrithik almost killed himself. But Hrithik’s insults are inspirational because poor Munni became an IAS officer and achieved something greater in her life than just being another maid. So obviously there’s a difference. But the most important difference is that Mittali is taunting a Virani (even if she’s one herself too now and gave birth to another) while Munni was taunted by a Virani. In the immortal words of Shehnaz

a woman in a denim jacket is holding a cup and talking to tommy ..

This dual standard is so irritating if the show makers feel, any crime can be buried if not everything is wrong..

Pari had EMA(adultery isn't the only way to do EMA) while she was married and that's nearly forgotten now, but Noyna getting indulged in Mihir's EMA makes her the most evil one.

As I said yesterday, the primary culprit in this case is Mihir(unless she forced herself while he was drunk) but the entire blame is only on Noyna

later they will make it Noyna misled Mihir and Ranvijay misled Pari like both were kids and they most pious people.


About Karan being asked to remain only friends with Nandani, I don't think Karan Nandani and Karan Damini could be ever compared.

KD were more of a fling or deep friendship turned infatuation (I even doubt Damini was his good friend, I felt Karan Ganga were much deeper soul connected - obviously in a platonic way than Karan Damini). While Karan Damini were plotting against Tulsi and SN, Karan seemed to be more interested in the plans than to care if Damini has any threat there. He was pretty calm when she said she wants to give her marriage a chance. Moving on to Nandani from Damini was easy for him. Damini remained at the most a sweet memory for him

but Nandani was completely different, they were being shown as made for each other. Karan broke completely after her marriage while he had his entire family and new best friend Tanya (as he then thought) with him, while at the time of Damini, he had no family, even Anupam and Kesar were busy in their marital issues so couldn't be his support.

He couldn't move over Nandani even before he knew the truth of her marriage and clearly denied marrying Tanya.

But yes things could have changed overnight if Ekta wanted.

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Posted: 4 days ago
#92

Originally posted by: A_Star39

my mom watched Baapji and asked yeh manish goenka ka koi friend hai kya?smiley39

ideally hona chahiye.

like mahish Goenka ki Poti ki natni shayad abhi lead hai, Baap ji k friend ke pote ke poton ki shaadi ki umra ho gayi hai, so seems so

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Posted: 4 days ago
#93

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

This dual standard is so irritating if the show makers feel, any crime can be buried if not everything is wrong..

Pari had EMA(adultery isn't the only way to do EMA) while she was married and that's nearly forgotten now, but Noyna getting indulged in Mihir's EMA makes her the most evil one.

As I said yesterday, the primary culprit in this case is Mihir(unless she forced herself while he was drunk) but the entire blame is only on Noyna

later they will make it Noyna misled Mihir and Ranvijay misled Pari like both were kids and they most pious people.


About Karan being asked to remain only friends with Nandani, I don't think Karan Nandani and Karan Damini could be ever compared.

KD were more of a fling or deep friendship turned infatuation (I even doubt Damini was his good friend, I felt Karan Ganga were much deeper soul connected - obviously in a platonic way than Karan Damini). While Karan Damini were plotting against Tulsi and SN, Karan seemed to be more interested in the plans than to care if Damini has any threat there. He was pretty calm when she said she wants to give her marriage a chance. Moving on to Nandani from Damini was easy for him. Damini remained at the most a sweet memory for him

but Nandani was completely different, they were being shown as made for each other. Karan broke completely after her marriage while he had his entire family and new best friend Tanya (as he then thought) with him, while at the time of Damini, he had no family, even Anupam and Kesar were busy in their marital issues so couldn't be his support.

He couldn't move over Nandani even before he knew the truth of her marriage and clearly denied marrying Tanya.

But yes things could have changed overnight if Ekta wanted.

Different strokes for different folks.

If you’re a Virani/Basu/Bajaj/ Aggrawal or whatever the main family is called you can be forgiven for most everything. The people who marry into the family, the ones who want to marry into the family or their friends or others cannot be pardoned for anything let alone similar offences.

Mihir can be pardoned for fathering a child with another woman and his wife will eventually take him back, accept his son from another woman too and that’s alright.

But now make Mittali or any other bahu have an EMA, get pregnant from it, make her husband believe that he is the father for as long as possible but then expose the truth. Will the man be able to take it? Will the family accept the child from another man? Forgive their bahu?

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Posted: 4 days ago
#94

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Different strokes for different folks.

If you’re a Virani/Basu/Bajaj/ Aggrawal or whatever the main family is called you can be forgiven for most everything. The people who marry into the family, the ones who want to marry into the family or their friends or others cannot be pardoned for anything let alone similar offences.

Mihir can be pardoned for fathering a child with another woman and his wife will eventually take him back, accept his son from another woman too and that’s alright.

But now make Mittali or any other bahu have an EMA, get pregnant from it, make her husband believe that he is the father for as long as possible but then expose the truth. Will the man be able to take it? Will the family accept the child from another man? Forgive their bahu?

outsiders me abhi tak bas Suhasi k husband ko forgiveness mili hai. but probably that's because no one except us viewers got to know about it.

he had a child prior to marriage and he thought best day to inform Suhasi about this is their wedding night..Just wow.

but Suhasi got that child home saying she wants to adopt it. later no one cared. Aniket even joined Virani industries for a small time(was played by Shabbir)

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Posted: 4 days ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

outsiders me abhi tak bas Suhasi k husband ko forgiveness mili hai. but probably that's because no one except us viewers got to know about it.

he had a child prior to marriage and he thought best day to inform Suhasi about this is their wedding night..Just wow.

but Suhasi got that child home saying she wants to adopt it. later no one cared. Aniket even joined Virani industries for a small time(was played by Shabbir)

It felt like they just wanted to wrap up her track the way they rushed it. Because the way they handled that whole thing was weird.

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Posted: 4 days ago
#96

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

This dual standard is so irritating if the show makers feel, any crime can be buried if not everything is wrong..

Pari had EMA(adultery isn't the only way to do EMA) while she was married and that's nearly forgotten now, but Noyna getting indulged in Mihir's EMA makes her the most evil one.

As I said yesterday, the primary culprit in this case is Mihir(unless she forced herself while he was drunk) but the entire blame is only on Noyna

later they will make it Noyna misled Mihir and Ranvijay misled Pari like both were kids and they most pious people.


About Karan being asked to remain only friends with Nandani, I don't think Karan Nandani and Karan Damini could be ever compared.

KD were more of a fling or deep friendship turned infatuation (I even doubt Damini was his good friend, I felt Karan Ganga were much deeper soul connected - obviously in a platonic way than Karan Damini). While Karan Damini were plotting against Tulsi and SN, Karan seemed to be more interested in the plans than to care if Damini has any threat there. He was pretty calm when she said she wants to give her marriage a chance. Moving on to Nandani from Damini was easy for him. Damini remained at the most a sweet memory for him

but Nandani was completely different, they were being shown as made for each other. Karan broke completely after her marriage while he had his entire family and new best friend Tanya (as he then thought) with him, while at the time of Damini, he had no family, even Anupam and Kesar were busy in their marital issues so couldn't be his support.

He couldn't move over Nandani even before he knew the truth of her marriage and clearly denied marrying Tanya.

But yes things could have changed overnight if Ekta wanted.

Noina did force Mihir. He wasn’t able to stand properly in that drunk state in the hut. His eyes were half closed and opened only when Noina started talking about Tulsi. He was stepping away from her when she said she loves him and only stopped her when she said to leave her alone to her state to imply she will commit suicide. In the end, we see her leaning to kiss him. Then we don’t know what happened afterwards. On other hand, Pari was having affair with Ranvijay. The two can’t be compared.
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Posted: 4 days ago
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And why shouldn’t Noina get blamed? Does any sane decent person try having sex with a drunk person?? Mihir can be blamed for mistreating and disrespecting Tulsi, being close to Noina by sharing his marital life issues with her and for others things putting her finger in his mouth to stop her bleeding, but he can’t be blamed for getting drugged and sexually assaulted multiple times including getting raped if the sleeping happened

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Posted: 4 days ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

You’re welcome ☺️

Just realised that I forgot to answer the bold part. No. Longer ad time mean more ads, means more earnings and more revenue. More money means bigger budgets. Bigger budgets means that show regulars aka main cast get paid better, even new cast members joining the show can be more popular actors and veterans whose fees are automatically higher than any newbie, basically a much bigger cast. Better costumes, sets, probably even outdoor shoots which can include going abroad as well. Think Kyunki at its peak paying that huge cast with Smriti, Ronit, Hiten, Gauri lakhs per episode, spending a decent chunk of their budget on paying just these 4 let alone others in cast. Better costumes for them, shooting abroad in Australia and later Switzerland.

With a bigger budget for the current season they can get Hiten Gauri and more of OG cast back on a regular basis too alongside the other new cast members and maybe even shoot outdoors whether in India or abroad all the while increasing the amount paid to Smriti, Amar, Rohit etc.

I don’t understand how and why that KBC is getting so many sponsors that they can pay 5 crore salary per episode to Amitabh when the show’s trps is around 0.5?? I thought it was all trps dependent, but this shows it’s not all about trps too?? KBC doesn’t get that many views online either like BB does. I have seen KBC videos, and they get about the same amount of viewers like Kyunki episode clips get on YouTube. Anyway, that’s why I want Kyunki trp to increase to minimum 2.5 or at least 2.3-2.5, so they can have a higher budget which will be good for the show and cast. We will get better episodes
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Posted: 4 days ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

ideally hona chahiye.

like mahish Goenka ki Poti ki natni shayad abhi lead hai, Baap ji k friend ke pote ke poton ki shaadi ki umra ho gayi hai, so seems so

[Copied my post from yrkkh forum]

I was watching old episodes (Akshara's death sequence Gen 1) where both Akshara's (Hina) dadi and Manish Goenka were shown in the same episode.


So Manish has been around


Akshara's dadi = Gen 1 Maheshwari


Akshara's mom = Gen 2


Akshara = 3rd Gen


Naira = 4th Gen


Akshu = 5th Gen


Abhira = 6th Gen


Maira = 7th Gen.


Naira's Great Grandmother to Naira's Great Grand daughter.


He's eternal.


OMG! I Just searched and found they even met.


So Manish met Akshra (Hina's) Dadi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 4 days ago

Originally posted by: The_Best

I don’t understand how and why that KBC is getting so many sponsors that they can pay 5 crore salary per episode to Amitabh when the show’s trps is around 0.5?? I thought it was all trps dependent, but this shows it’s not all about trps too?? KBC doesn’t get that many views online either like BB does. I have seen KBC videos, and they get about the same amount of viewers like Kyunki episode clips get on YouTube. Anyway, that’s why I want Kyunki trp to increase to minimum 2.5 or at least 2.3-2.5, so they can have a higher budget which will be good for the show and cast. We will get better episodes

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