Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi 2: EDT #8 - Page 16

Originally posted by: The_Best

OG KZK or kzk2?

Haven't watched KZK2 but I think both KZK1 and 2 should have almost similar BGM. When I heard BGM during Hrithik-Munni's convo it took me back to KZK BGM. Probably they have tuned it a bit I guess

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

Ironical kahe, Tulsi is hurt, feels betrayed by a harmless prank by Vaishnavi for lying about her being hurt.

Well madam, you have hid about your identity these 6 years and continue to hide your past that stands infront of you. How about that? Tumne jhooth bola! Really?

Tulsi says to Malati, "Bhadda mazaak karne ki aadat gayi nahin aapki". Yeh mazaak tab nahin laga jab inka beta, yeh khud unhi ke ghar rahe aashrit hokar, jab inke apnon ne inke jeewan ke saath sabse bhadda mazaak kiya tha? Aur chahe jo bolo. Inhi logon ne kam resources hone ke bawajood sir par chatth di thi. 6 saal paala hain inke bete, pota-poti ko.

Sorry but these sequences are so off.

I don’t see how Tulsi keeping her personal life from these girls can be equated to a lie.

Vaishnavi lied about being injured, scared Tulsi by claiming that she was bleeding profusely and that her friends were gone. Tulsi had to have been scared - she would’ve had a million questions crossing her mind regarding how the injury would have happened in the exhibition, she would’ve tried to recall the place as well as she could. She would’ve called the girls to ask where were they, why were they not around Vaishnavi. Blaming herself for not being there. Wondering if the injury is serious, would she require stitches, any shots.
How would she explain to her family what happened to Vaishnavi, how did Tulsi allow her to be injured when they obviously would have trusted Tulsi enough to send their daughters with her to a city they’d never been to before for the first time.

That scolding was a product of genuine anger, love and panic that Tulsi felt.

Comparing that to Tulsi’s omission of her past in the past is like comparing oranges and apples. They’re two different things!

These girls are barely in their 20s now, presuming they met her 6 years ago, they might have been in their mid to late teens.

Why would a woman in her 60’s discuss that her husband of nearly 40 years, the father of her 8 kids has cheated on her, again, with quite literally a bunch of kids? What possibly besides senile behaviour could prompt her to start such a discussion?

Besides, it’s her personal life and something that has nothing to do with these kids who were still strangers to her. Why would you discuss the most humiliating, heartbreaking and hurtful experience of your life to complete strangers, especially when they’re quite literally young enough to be your grandchildren?!

Angad staying with his in-laws is no joke. It is a lived reality that is a product of the decisions and circumstances that led to that situation in the first place.

Malti’s comment about Tulsi getting remarried when she has to have learnt at some point what prompted Tulsi to leave SN was truly callous and deserved to be called out. And Tulsi did it in the most respectful and dignified way possible despite being affronted and obviously not amused.

Had Malti been a younger person you could expect such brash or illogical comments from her and excuse her behaviour as someone who is too young and therefore too immature to grasp the complexity of the situation. Malti has to be around Tulsi’s age if not older, so it’s genuinely not expected from her to make such comments. She wasn’t being nosey but downright ridiculous and offensive even if she tried to play it off as if she never meant it but it doesn’t matter.

Also, when Tulsi was in the chawl after she left home, Malti didn’t waste a single second to extract what little cash she could from her by taking those 500 rupees. Now it might be a huge amount for her, yet it was crass of her to take it given the circumstances and the fact that the woman was her daughter’s saas, the only person who had accepted her daughter coping with such a huge blow met to her just a couple of hours ago.

Tulsi getting angry at Vaishnavi and scolding her is as warranted as Tulsi calling out Malti.

Originally posted by: BangBang_Shilpa

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Really. She owes them nothing. Ye btaye ke Pati ne dhokha diya 38 saal ki shaadi ke baad. She has every right to privacy.

She made them who they are, a whole new bandej business, new life, employment, self-dependence.

She didn't change her name. And Vrinda's mom saying 6 saal main dusri shaadi aur itni badi bachhiyan was disgusting.

She was there only for few hours.

So, you have issues with the fact Tulsi stayed in the chawl for half a day or that she didn't stay long.

I'm sorry this conclusion of yours is baffling.

They (Bandej and Virani Industries) are literally in the same competition. They are in the same business. If it was not about "hiding" the truth, why is she avoiding any interactions? Tomorrow when the girls come to know of who she was, will they be able to see her in the same light? Will they not feel betrayed?

She did not change her name, just dropped Virani from it. She literally took them to meet her beta-bahu-pota-poti and even agreed to shift to the accommodation Angad had arranged.

Her not wanting to participate or travel to Mumbai were a consequence of her avoidance of any contact with Viranis not to make the girls independent, that was one of the consequences of her action. Not the purpose in itself.

The question is not who owes whom what? The question is about the truth.

If and when there is a crucial head-on conflict between Bandej and Viranis and the truth of their past comes out at that point, what happens then?

Originally posted by: BangBang_Shilpa

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Really. She owes them nothing. Ye btaye ke Pati ne dhokha diya 38 saal ki shaadi ke baad. She has every right to privacy.

She made them who they are, a whole new bandej business, new life, employment, self-dependence.

She didn't change her name. And Vrinda's mom saying 6 saal main dusri shaadi aur itni badi bachhiyan was disgusting.

She was there only for few hours.

So, you have issues with the fact Tulsi stayed in the chawl for half a day or that she didn't stay long.

I'm sorry this conclusion of yours is baffling.

About Malati.

Malati's nature is well established, she comes from a place where conclusions run faster than whispers/sound. Besides, it may be safe to assume she would have heard/seen/known about Mihir-Noina and is drawing the same parlance. So, if Noina or someone else would said the exact same thing in a more sophisticated manner, would that have sounded like a taunt than an insult?

So, her talking a certain way is attributed to the strata of society she has lived ALL her life and her estalished nature.

It is not about how long Tulsi stayed at her place, it is about finding a place to dwell after giving up everything. Mind you, Angad and Vrinda too were staying at Malati's (until now, after 6 years that they moved out). Malati's own conditions were terrible. A son who lost his job, there being no breadwinner, providing a house of 6 and then 7 people in a chawl. They did what Viranis own people couldn't.

Rithik and Munni’s scene was done so well, but it’s hard for me to root for them when Rithik is married and even has a child. I hope Timsy isn’t Rithik and Mitali’s child. She can be just Mitali’s child. Rithik can adopt her since mitali doesn’t seem to care about her. Anyway, in Ekta’s shows lots of adoptions happen. Anurag too adopted the child who was from his ex-wife and her lover. So they can show that here too

Originally posted by: Me_Harini

This is my take on Munni-Hrithik

Munni should not go back to Hrithik. If she truly has self-respect, she should move on with someone who values her, instead of settling for Hrithik out of nostalgia, sympathy, or simply because she once loved him or perhaps still does. It’s hard to define exactly what she’s feeling right now; from the episodes, it’s clear there are unresolved emotions. Whether it’s lingering love, hurt, anger, or a complicated mix of all three, those emotions alone shouldn’t be enough for her to return to someone who once looked down on her.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with Hrithik - it’s fair that he didn’t want to settle down with a maid. Everyone has the right to their personal preferences. The real issue was how he expressed it. He could have been honest and respectful, but instead, he chose to belittle Munni because of her profession, which was completely unacceptable.

What makes the situation more uncomfortable now is the contrast. Munni has grown personally and professionally while Hrithik’s life seems to be falling apart. His marriage is strained, his business is failing, and he appears directionless. He isn’t a bad person, but his sudden admiration for Munni comes at a time when she is thriving and he is not, which makes the dynamic feel uneven and unfair to her.

Disrespecting someone because of their profession is never justified. Munni has built herself up with dignity and strength. She deserves a partner who sees her worth without conditions or comparisons.

Unfortunately, knowing the makers, they will likely push a Munni - Hrithik marriage track. But realistically and emotionally, Munni choosing to move forward instead of backward would be the stronger and more empowering outcome.

TBH, I am even more against this pair after tonight’s episode but feel they’re inevitable given that we already got a song sequence on them in their first meeting post leap.

Hrithik was perfectly allowed to reject Munni, particularly because she had hidden that she was his online friend, the girl he was falling for all those years ago. She knew what he felt and how much he wanted to meet this girl and how disappointed as well as hurt he was every time she wouldn’t turn up. His anger, rejection and shock were valid. I can even forgive his tone because he was hurt and felt like he was being played for a fool.

But the truth of the matter is that in that instant when he rejected her he exposed his class bias and that exists even to date.

Look at his scenes today - as he’s about to exit her office and post their meeting today with others. In her office he couldn’t hold back his shock and was trying to make sense of this girl formerly working as a maid at his house as a collector today. Then we see how Mittali believes that Munni would be in the same kind of situation even now, as a maid working somewhere, she was back then. Hrithik only taunted her because he knew the truth else he might have presumed the same as her perhaps even if he hadn’t taken her suggestion of calling Munni for the job seriously.

If you notice their scene today, he’s impressed she’s talking in English and her Hindi has no trace of her accent; besides her stature. This makes me think had he met Munni elsewhere before, perhaps as she’s out getting her own groceries from some roadside vendor and he happened to be there for some reason, he might have assumed she’s still a maid somewhere else. If he’d heard her converse with say said vendor or someone else in her mother tongue - Bhojpuri or Maithali or whichever dialect of Bihar she speaks (the actress really does hail from Bihar); he wouldn’t have even presumed she had completed her education let alone that she could be so highly qualified as to earn such a prestigious IAS position.

Hrithik still is judging her based on the parameters of her education and status. Where once her status as a maid would have made him a subject of ridicule and mockery (for which we can’t fault him); he rejected her. But now the same girl being a collector changes everything. Now if she’s with him he won’t be embarrassed but rather flaunt his connections and speak highly of her himself.

To me this is Hrithik still not caring about Munni the girl, the person underneath; but judging her transformation from Munni the maid to Manjuri the collector. His feelings will not change because he has discovered she’s an amazing girl he would be lucky to have in his life but because now he no longer will feel ashamed of being with her since she’s not a maid anymore but a well educated collector who has lost all traces of her native accent and can speak fluent Hindi and English in a way that doesn’t display her rural roots.

Originally posted by: A_Star39

Well guess what

Yrkkh is headed for a leap AGAIN😭😭

7 years ahead makes them reach 2147

They have crossed 7 janam now

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

They (Bandej and Virani Industries) are literally in the same competition. They are in the same business. If it was not about "hiding" the truth, why is she avoiding any interactions? Tomorrow when the girls come to know of who she was, will they be able to see her in the same light? Will they not feel betrayed?

She did not change her name, just dropped Virani from it. She literally took them to meet her beta-bahu-pota-poti and even agreed to shift to the accommodation Angad had arranged.

Her not wanting to participate or travel to Mumbai were a consequence of her avoidance of any contact with Viranis not to make the girls independent, that was one of the consequences of her action. Not the purpose in itself.

The question is not who owes whom what? The question is about the truth.

If and when there is a crucial head-on conflict between Bandej and Viranis and the truth of their past comes out at that point, what happens then?

Why would she want to interact with Mihir or anyone from her family for that matter? What exactly is to be gained from it? Considering that she sees the way Mihir is in the precap and what she overhears him saying is enough to give you all the answers you need.

Why will the girls feel betrayed? Has Tulsi set them up for failure? Did she do anything to hurt their chances of getting ahead in their careers with this competition? What exactly did she do that would be considered a betrayal? Not telling them her past is not in any manner whatsoever a betrayal.

The truth - as you call it - is not gonna hurt the girls in any manner. The girls finding out that Tulsi is a Virani is not going to do any damage to them in any form. What exactly would they have to complain about? The fact that Tulsi didn’t share with them the story of how she was cheated on by her husband and hence chose to live in Anjar? Or that she chose to be independent and started Bandej as a means of earning her livelihood without resorting to charity or worse begging?How she didn’t just train/work with these girls but made them her business partners?

Tulsi is not lying to them. She’s simply not telling them things that they have no business knowing as it’s about her personal life. She literally asks Mihir if he has any idea in their scene pre-leap in front of the Tulsi plant in the yard, has he got any idea what his friends would say when they found out about Mandira and Karan. How post that revelation she became an object of pity of their acquaintances, relatives and worse their own children. Then why would she want to be subjected to the same thing all over again literally over a 1000 kms away in front of strangers?

Those girls are bound to find out everything as it is and when they do they will feel pity for her, they won’t be angry at Tulsi.

Their pity is what she wants to avoid. No one likes being an object of pity.

Really like Mihir and Vaishnavi scenes. Don’t know if Vaishnavi has parents or father. Or all these girls with Tulsi orphans?? But scenes with Mihir with all children come out so well. It looks like real father and children scenes. I hope Vrinda also get father’s love from Mihir. I think she never met her real father as her mom was a single mother

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Why would she want to interact with Mihir or anyone from her family for that matter? What exactly is to be gained from it? Considering that she sees the way Mihir is in the precap and what she overhears him saying is enough to give you all the answers you need.

Why will the girls feel betrayed? Has Tulsi set them up for failure? Did she do anything to hurt their chances of getting ahead in their careers with this competition? What exactly did she do that would be considered a betrayal? Not telling them her past is not in any manner whatsoever a betrayal.

The truth - as you call it - is not gonna hurt the girls in any manner. The girls finding out that Tulsi is a Virani is not going to do any damage to them in any form. What exactly would they have to complain about? The fact that Tulsi didn’t share with them the story of how she was cheated on by her husband and hence chose to live in Anjar? Or that she chose to be independent and started Bandej as a means of earning her livelihood without resorting to charity or worse begging?How she didn’t just train/work with these girls but made them her business partners?

Tulsi is not lying to them. She’s simply not telling them things that they have no business knowing as it’s about her personal life. She literally asks Mihir if he has any idea in their scene pre-leap in front of the Tulsi plant in the yard, has he got any idea what his friends would say when they found out about Mandira and Karan. How post that revelation she became an object of pity of their acquaintances, relatives and worse their own children. Then why would she want to be subjected to the same thing all over again literally over a 1000 kms away in front of strangers?

Those girls are bound to find out everything as it is and when they do they will feel pity for her, they won’t be angry at Tulsi.

Their pity is what she wants to avoid. No one likes being an object of pity.

Consider X is leading a team (they have a deep professional equation, nothing personal and are not aware of X's past) in a performance assessment. The other team in the assessment happens to be lead by X's relative and the team comprises of X's next of kin.

X's Team gets to know of their relation through a third person.

What happens then?

Also: Tulsi was given the offer before as well to go to Mumbai and expand operations which was good for the business (and hence the girls working in the co-operative), she declined the offer, why? It took a task of convincing her to participate in the exhibition despite the opportunities it would bring, why did she avoid?