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Posted: 1 months ago
#41

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Nope, I personally love my surname. My point is, DKP is making fl to retain her surname so that the audience can know why she is sufferingsmiley1 . Personally, I feel bad for Abhira. I do sympathize with her. I would have sympathized with her more if it had been non-legacy shows. I have always been taught that whatever karma you do, if you don't get it in your current life, your kids may get it on your behalf. My parents think 1000 times before doing something bad to others to avoid getting that in return.

But Sharmas were never punished for destroying Abhimanyu, Ruhi, Arohi, and Neil's lives . They were made to suffer because of the poor decision-making skills of Abhira's mom and dad. They never got karma for what they did. So based on whatever I have been taught, I don't feel bad for her as she is getting what her parents sowed.

I only said DKP is ensuring the audience knows that she is a Sharma, as many people like me who believe in karma will not feel bad for Abhira.

Abhir is anyways, i hardly care about him he is only akshara's son for me.


Her sasural never ruined her, giving divorce < A grown-up son and dil dying due to poor decision of fl. I have been saying this multiple times. Abhimanyu gave a divorce as he wanted to save his rest of his family members, as fl never tried to understand what her choti si galti is costing him and his family. But that doesn't give her a free pass to change the father of her son. She literally took revenge on Abhimanyu for giving her a divorce.

Because of her, Abhimanyu lost his son like brother, his child, the other child doesn't even recognize him as father, and his mother was hospitalized due to a stroke. What did Akshu lose? She found a new husbandji, she had abhir whom she risked in that incident when Neil died. Eventually, she had everything, and it was her decision to stay away from goenkas and raise Abhir in poor conditions, so nobody forced her, and I won't consider it as suffering.

I don't want to have a debate on Gen3, but I know that people here will understand my intention regarding the surname. My intention was only to highlight whatever you sow, eventually it will come to you. If not to you, then it can hit your kids, too.

I merely had an issue with the fact that someone retaining their maiden name does not equal the karmphal of their deeds. That doesn't sit right with me.

Sis, what role did Akshara really play in Neil’s death? Wasn’t it all purely circumstantial? She didn’t ask him to go and fight 10 gundas like a hero. Frankly, he should have exercised more sense. This is exactly like Aarohi accusing Akshara of killing Sirat when she simply slipped down the stairs. (And saying “she slipped because she followed Akshara " isn’t logical — she could’ve slipped anywhere& died.)

Is abandoning your pregnant wife — who is going through a difficult pregnancy — really the solution for your family’s suffering? He didn’t even hear her out properly. Sorry, I can’t subscribe to that. But hey, you’re entitled to your opinion.

Akshara (OG) was inherently a good person — yeah, she made some dumb choices, but I don’t recall her ever ruining anyone’s life. Yet Naira still had a tumultuous journey. Naitik was a decent guy too, and Naksh still suffered. Don’t tell me they weren’t good people either.

Naira or Kartik weren't bad people, minus the EMA debacle. Were they so bad to warrant the life Akshara had? Idts. But again, that’s a matter of perspective.

Sometimes, our own actions define us — not just our parents’ karma. That was the only point I was trying to make. I’m not defending anyone’s actions — not Abhimanyu’s, not Akshara’s, and sure as hell not Abhinav’s.

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Posted: 1 months ago
#42

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

surname thing is a old topic but if you analyse a story by symbolism and whatever it's an interesting point


Meher does it usually but I have noticed this surname thing since the epi where Manish divides his property between ruhi and abhira. It was also abhira sharma then. That time it was all fine between bhabhiman. So good times or bad she was never known by poddars.

I never look much into symbolism but yes meher does a very detailed analysis.

Ig makers wanted to be forward and that's why they let it be abhira sharma.

Abhira was known as sharma even in her hospital records when she delivered bsp.Maybe she wants to retain her identity but lol she ended up becoming a jogan and lost her worth

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Posted: 1 months ago
#43

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

I merely had an issue with the fact that someone retaining their maiden name does not equal the karmphal of their deeds. That doesn't sit right with me.

Sis, what role did Akshara really play in Neil’s death? Wasn’t it all purely circumstantial? She didn’t ask him to go and fight 10 gundas like a hero. Frankly, he should have exercised more sense. This is exactly like Aarohi accusing Akshara of killing Sirat when she simply slipped down the stairs. (And saying “she slipped because she followed Akshara " isn’t logical — she could’ve slipped anywhere& died.)

Is abandoning your pregnant wife — who is going through a difficult pregnancy — really the solution for your family’s suffering? He didn’t even hear her out properly. Sorry, I can’t subscribe to that. But hey, you’re entitled to your opinion.

Akshara (OG) was inherently a good person — yeah, she made some dumb choices, but I don’t recall her ever ruining anyone’s life. Yet Naira still had a tumultuous journey. Naitik was a decent guy too, and Naksh still suffered. Don’t tell me they weren’t good people either.

Naira or Kartik weren't bad people, minus the EMA debacle. Were they so bad to warrant the life Akshara had? Idts. But again, that’s a matter of perspective.

Sometimes, our own actions define us — not just our parents’ karma. That was the only point I was trying to make. I’m not defending anyone’s actions — not Abhimanyu’s, not Akshara’s, and sure as hell not Abhinav’s.

naksh didn't got any trauma due to naitik Or akshara rather he was raised well by both

I loved how naksh was treated during his diabetes and it showed some real emotions.

I like gen 1 as it showed real growth

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Posted: 1 months ago
#44

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

I think what diya tried to say and even I feel is makers always try to highlight abhira sharma. Ruhis name changed to ruhi poddar but abhira remained sharma since forever. So it's like she will never be full poddar - like akshara was sharma and birla, naira was naira Kartik goenka , akshara singhania etc.


And it doesn't mean anything patriarchal or anything. She will be sharma and can't be poddar because she won't get that respect and position of a wife and bahu in this gen. What previous fl at a point got. So abhira will never be a poddar.


And here diya mentioned the karma of past gen that how her parents mistake made this life for abhira


Regarding abhir yep abhimanyu made a mistake marrying akthu so abhirs karma is to marry that druggie 🤣😁😁

I got the point, yes. I don't have a problem with anyone criticising Abhira's actions because her actions have been contemptible many many times. Or anyone in gen 4 honestly because they are all a bunch of clowns.

@b: a surname doesn't define bahu's respect but yes I understand. I merely don't agree with it.

Technically, Abhimanyu was leading Aarohi on, despite both of them knowing it'll not go anywhere. Is that why Abhir was left in the altar ?

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Posted: 1 months ago
#45

Originally posted by: A_Star39

naksh didn't got any trauma due to naitik Or akshara rather he was raised well by both

I loved how naksh was treated during his diabetes and it showed some real emotions.

I like gen 1 as it showed real growth

I agree! Naksh is a good person. He made some stupid mistakes but was a good person at heart. Ultimately your actions define your karma, not just your parents'.

An abuser's kid need not be an abuser. They can be a good person too.

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Posted: 1 months ago
#46

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

I got the point, yes. I don't have a problem with anyone criticising Abhira's actions because her actions have been contemptible many many times. Or anyone in gen 4 honestly because they are all a bunch of clowns.

@b: a surname doesn't define bahu's respect but yes I understand. I merely don't agree with it.

Technically, Abhimanyu was leading Aarohi on, despite both of them knowing it'll not go anywhere. Is that why Abhir was left in the altar ?

abhimanyu told arohi point blank he won't ever love her. She was like let's see what's their in future. They were clear in their ways - arohi wanted the surname and status. Abhi wanted someone who would handle his mother cause back then he felt arohi saved him and Manju loved her.



Arohi lashing out at wedding tamasha was more about how her dream was snatched by akthu again rather than losing abhi.


Abhir ka bad luck hona hi tha his life was a lie till this day. Also his own mistakes piled on. Tragic character he is but it's him and his parents bad deeds hona hi tha

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Posted: 1 months ago
#47

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

surname thing is a old topic but if you analyse a story by symbolism and whatever it's an interesting point


Meher does it usually but I have noticed this surname thing since the epi where Manish divides his property between ruhi and abhira. It was also abhira sharma then. That time it was all fine between bhabhiman. So good times or bad she was never known by poddars.

Because Poddars never treated her good, even when she wasn't or isn't as miserable as she is now. If people thought Goenkas were regressive, they didn't know Poddars.

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Posted: 1 months ago
#48

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

I merely had an issue with the fact that someone retaining their maiden name does not equal the karmphal of their deeds. That doesn't sit right with me.

Sis, what role did Akshara really play in Neil’s death? Wasn’t it all purely circumstantial? She didn’t ask him to go and fight 10 gundas like a hero. Frankly, he should have exercised more sense. This is exactly like Aarohi accusing Akshara of killing Sirat when she simply slipped down the stairs. (And saying “she slipped because she followed Akshara " isn’t logical — she could’ve slipped anywhere& died.)

Please watch the episodes again. Neil didn't want to go. Akshara threatened him, saying I will go. To stop her from going out, Neil had to go out. If I were in Akshara's place, if I see someone else stepping out for me because of my zid my first response would be to stop him from going out because I can not face my family if something happens to him while saving me. Which was missing in her.


Is abandoning your pregnant wife — who is going through a difficult pregnancy — really the solution for your family’s suffering? He didn’t even hear her out properly. Sorry, I can’t subscribe to that. But hey, you’re entitled to your opinion.

Please watch the episodes again. Abhimanyu asked Akshara to take rest, gave her juice, asked Swarna to take care of her, and went to the funeral of Neil. He did not abandon her for the miscarriage. But Akshara came out, which made Manjari lose her calm, and she had a stroke. Abhimanyu lost his cool because of that. Ek baar mistake ho sakthi hai, but Akshara was repeating this again and again without using her brain. Abhimanyu already lost Neil, his twins, because of Akshara's impulsive behavior; he can not afford to lose any more family members after seeing Manjari having a stroke.

Akshara (OG) was inherently a good person — yeah, she made some dumb choices, but I don’t recall her ever ruining anyone’s life. Yet Naira still had a tumultuous journey. Naitik was a decent guy too, and Naksh still suffered. Don’t tell me they weren’t good people either.

I have not watched these seasons, so no comments

Naira or Kartik weren't bad people, minus the EMA debacle. Were they so bad to warrant the life Akshara had? Idts. But again, that’s a matter of perspective.

I don't think Akshara had a bad life. She decided to leave goenka house and stay in a hostel. She decided to hide her love for Abhimanyu and confessed it on the day of his wedding to Arohi. She let Arohi abuse and control her. She left abhimanyu for an year just because she gave a promise to khera who blackmailed her with operation which she could have easily avoided by handing him over to police post-surgery. She could have easily avoided white day by following the guidelines provided police i.e waiting for 10 minutes. She could have easily avoided divorce by following what Abhimanyu said i.e to take rest on the white day. The rest were her decisions only.

Akshara was never a victim; she does kaand, and she looks like a victim, but she never was a victim. It was all her decisions that she took which made her life miserable including taking blame of arohi's death.

Sometimes, our own actions define us — not just our parents’ karma. That was the only point I was trying to make. I’m not defending anyone’s actions — not Abhimanyu’s, not Akshara’s, and sure as hell not Abhinav’s.

Yes Agreed. Abhira has her own karma. I believe her parents karma is also being highlighted as I see no reason for makers to repeat gen 3 by keeping AB in Abhimanyu's position. As the popular opinion on this forum says dkp treats fl as queen smiley1

My replies in red smiley1

In the end, we all can have different opinions. I do not watch a show based on ML and FL. I analyze the show from all characters' perspectives. For me, Birla's lost everything on Wday where whereas Ak destroyed Birla's to build her new family. She has every right to move on, but she has no right to separate a child from her father.

So let's agree to disagreesmiley1

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Posted: 1 months ago
#49

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

abhimanyu told arohi point blank he won't ever love her. She was like let's see what's their in future. They were clear in their ways - arohi wanted the surname and status. Abhi wanted someone who would handle his mother cause back then he felt arohi saved him and Manju loved her.



Arohi lashing out at wedding tamasha was more about how her dream was snatched by akthu again rather than losing abhi.


Abhir ka bad luck hona hi tha his life was a lie till this day. Also his own mistakes piled on. Tragic character he is but it's him and his parents bad deeds hona hi tha

Sis, if he was clear, he loved Akshara, he shouldn't have encouraged Aarohi in the first place. Kabhi usko Akshara se pyaar hota hai, kabhi he feels Aarohi saved him. Yeh do do ghode ka sawaari kyun ?

Not a comparison, but Naira didn't immediately accept Kartik's love. He didn't run around think chalo let me make Naira realise her love for me by going with Gayu. He merely resigned and stepped away.

@b: will agree on the own mistakes part smiley36 and no I'm not saying your parents' mistakes don't affect you at all, it merely doesn't your influence karmphal, that's all.

Edited by missFiesty_69 - 1 months ago
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Posted: 1 months ago
#50

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

abhimanyu told arohi point blank he won't ever love her. She was like let's see what's their in future. They were clear in their ways - arohi wanted the surname and status. Abhi wanted someone who would handle his mother cause back then he felt arohi saved him and Manju loved her.



Arohi lashing out at wedding tamasha was more about how her dream was snatched by akthu again rather than losing abhi.


Abhir ka bad luck hona hi tha his life was a lie till this day. Also his own mistakes piled on. Tragic character he is but it's him and his parents bad deeds hona hi tha

Manjari was ill. Her last wish was to see her son's marriage. She chose Arohi for him. Akshara toh waise bhi maan nahi rahi thi. So it's expected that a guy will choose someone who loves him when the person he loves doesn't love him back. It happens in real life, too. People marry the person who loves them if they don't get the person they love.

I know many people who married the person who loved them when they were unable to marry the person whom they loved.

I did not find Abhimanyu wrong in that track. As he was not aware that Arohi never loved him. He thought Arohi risked her life and saved him.

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