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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: Swathi_7

Im okay with your views..but only thing I understood is that history is different for different people ..

I read views of different people yesterday from across the world

eg Israelis believe that Israelis were driven out of israel by arabs who all joined together..they say mass exodus happened ..but later israel fought against arabs and won over the war and then came back to occupy israel ..

But palestinenians deny that and say that NO arab war happened at all and arabs did not lose any war to israels at all ..they deny the very starting

See the difference..the same is happening to India vs Pak wars ..Indians despite have won on record, pak refuse to believe it and keep denying it and so are those people..it is going to be like this only..nobody can change it..

I believe the only war India should win is economic war and become leading independent nation and leave all these guys far behind..

You know right why they are still behind us? They’ve been raised with a mindset that focuses more on hostility than progress. Unfortunately, instead of concentrating on improving their economy and uplifting their people, they continue to prioritize conflict with us. That’s why they can’t truly move forward or compete with us.

@BOLD: yes 👌

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: Swathi_7

They wont know meaning for that also..

HAHAHAH 😂😂

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: JumpinJack

I agree. Current affairs has become very liberal in their approach however BWF remains the same...

I have been threatened twice openly today by clochette in BWF.

That person always acts high n mighty as if she owns the forum and reports whenever someone confronts anti india anti hindu agenda.

She acts like a gatekeeper.. I am surprised at her audacity bein a non Indian she has so much power n control over that forum

Majority of time her reporting actually works in her favor and she gets her way every time.

I would like to give credit where it's due.

Thank you mnx for not letting this forum become a playground of anti-india and Anti-Hindu forces.

I remember you have been attacked and blamed for being biased just because you didn't dance on their tunes. However, even though, lots of my own posts have been trashed, I will still say you have been quite good in your moderation. And this is one of the reason why this forum has come at #2 position.

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

Actually indians are doing far more than pakistanis. Remember our population is 1.4 billion while theirs is just 0.2 billion. So even if just a quarter of our people start putting pakistanis in their place on social media, we can easily dominate and thats exactly whats happening. Pakistanis simply cannot match us in terms of social media presence.

Yes there are liberals who dont support india but the number of loyal Indians far exceeds both pakistani supporters and liberals combined. These loyal Indians are doing exactly whats needed, they are actively countering and exposing pakistani propaganda online.

However if i have to point out where we are failing on the global stage, its in the media narrative. The global media landscape is largely biased against india or in favor of pakistan. Since the early days, the pakistani government has been feeding false information to major news outlets like CNN. These outlets would publish stories citing "pakistani government sources” or “anonymous US/French sources” without proper verification. Despite this lack of confirmation, the global media echoed those narratives and soon the world started believing pakistan was somehow defeating india, all based on unverified reports.

The only media outlet that tried to present india’s side was Yalda Hakim’s Sky News. She genuinely made an effort to show india’s achievements and truth but unfortunately, their reach was limited compared to giants like CNN.

I have watched plenty of korean, japanese, thai and other east asian news channels to understand their perspective (As west was already manipulated by CNN) and it became clear that even the eastern sphere was heavily influenced by CNN's false narrative as well. They were simply repeating what CNN reported, without fact checking or presenting alternative views. This is how the global spread of a false narrative happened.

Indians actually did a lot to stop the spread of misinformation but they were dismissed and mocked online, called pajeets, IT cell scammers, liars and other slurs.

Now I am sure it's a sinster troop against India

This post (see it here don't open or respond to it that will enhance) is from a guy with 250 followers and has reached 2 Million views.

Why is anti India getting so much traction

https://x.com/inficurious/status/1922618735535243743?t=Tzn3X2yMOmWORTkuerMkGg&s=19

? Still despite all this, most indians fought relentlessly against pakistani narratives on social media.

One major mistake on our part was that our government wasnt vocal enough during the early stages of the conflict. We didnt use global platforms like CNN to tell our side of the story, while pakistan was actively pushing theirs. As a result, the international media only presented pakistan’s version, and the world believed it. If only our government had engaged with international media from the beginning, things might have been different today.

Now, the government is finally trying to send ministers abroad to present india’s perspective. But honestly, it might be too late. Im not sure whether it will work or not but i still hope the world eventually sees the truth about this conflict and understands our side of the story.

@bold have you seen Pakistani media? It is way more a sensationalizer. Dawn and The News both reported that Pakistan has hit and destroyed India's military Brigade headquarters. They were sensationalizing each and everything way more than Indian media can ever do. Yet they were able to sell their narrative

And no this time government wasn't at fault, Indian military officers did the Press conference and it was very professional and detailed... They didn't leave even an iota of ambiguity. Even the international media did cover airbase losses of Pakistan and showed how much Pakistan is hit.

The issue is Pakistan was able to make it all about the number of jets fallen and claimed victory there since India stayed quite on the number of jets they lost or the number they hit.

Pakistanis within do believe that Indian military is all in ruins..

But my point wasn't even that. What I am saying is even if they were able to convince the world that they have won this war(which wasn't a war in the first place), still there is no ambiguity about who won 71 and 99 ( assuming they claimed and made the world believe the stalemate of 65 and 49 as wins) Even Shehbaz Sharif openly accepted the loss of 71 saying that they avenged that now.

In that case how are they able to bring the jibe 6-0 and make it organically reached out to everyone? Now on social media 6-0 means 6 victory of Pakistan, done and settled. It has nothing to do with international media, nothing to do with government. It has nothing to do with even the big influencer accounts, it's all about common people, it's all them. Pakistanis don't care about the facts but simply spread whatever they want. As you said making anyone who tried to correct them as Pajeet and other slurs. And then Indians leave (I myself would)

We saw how much their army officers made a fool of them but couldn't turn that into a social media meme..

That's what I think is the issue. We shall not focus on making correcting them using facts but simply make memes around them and make that famous. Ignore whether it's true or not

I don't know if I could explain myself

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Posted: 5 months ago

Now I am sure it's a sinster troop against India

This post (see it here don't open or respond to it that will enhance) is from a guy with 250 followers and has reached 2 Million views.

Why is anti India getting so much traction

https://x.com/inficurious/status/1922618735535243743?t=Tzn3X2yMOmWORTkuerMkGg&s=19

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: JumpinJack

Lol India forums pe account ban ho jate hai of you dare put Pakistanis in their place.

This place provides them the platform to peddle their anti india agendas.

This current conflict is the first time ever no warning is given for calling out pakis and their terrorism.

Whatever i said in my post was about social media platforms like X, IG, FB & global media outletd like CNN. India Forums isnt even 1/1000th the size of those giants, its just a very small space. India forums doesnt even matter compared to those biggies.

Secondly, at least i havent faced that problem on my side. Yes i have seen mods remove many posts but i have made many posts criticizing pakistan and even islam and none of mine were taken down. Maybe things are different in BWF but at least in this thread, indians are actively participating and discussing with a decent amount of freedom despite some minor difficulties.

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Now I am sure it's a sinster troop against India

This post (see it here don't open or respond to it that will enhance) is from a guy with 250 followers and has reached 2 Million views.

Why is anti India getting so much traction

https://x.com/inficurious/status/1922618735535243743?t=Tzn3X2yMOmWORTkuerMkGg&s=19

😤😠😠

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: Swathi_7

Yes i got into tussle with a guy/girl from pak on reddit..he/she came into indian pages and started commenting why do Indians think we are lying and do not feel that Indian army could be lying ..i said you are a poor country and lack education which is why it is easy to brainwash you not us because we dont celebrate untill we see proofs unlike u ..then he/she said his/her house is near Nur khan and the blast was due to debris and not due to full scale attack ..

I said how do i believe bring proof for that also..bye..

They keep saying that but their own commoners visuals show their base have been attacked..full of hypocritical delusion ..

Oh this happened with me yesterday. On FB I denied some of their fake claims to which he asked to check neutral media and shared the same things we discussed here. I corrected him saying these say Pakistan claims to have done xxx, not independently verifying it. To which he replied that unless the opposite party accepts it's always a claim and since Pakistan hasn't accepted any loss except NurKhan airbase, hence India is also only claiming and that India never accepts even after losing everything hence it will never be conclusive.

I corrected him that India has provided evidence Pakistan didn't and that's why it's a proof of India and claim of Pakistan. But as expected he didn't believe.

They will always believe they won and nothing can change that

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Posted: 5 months ago

Hey guys..

Apparently Afghan trucks can now enter India for Trade and India will help Afghanistan in making a dam.

I feel like proxy war has started now.

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Posted: 5 months ago

Originally posted by: JumpinJack

Lol India forums pe account ban ho jate hai of you dare put Pakistanis in their place.

This place provides them the platform to peddle their anti india agendas.

This current conflict is the first time ever no warning is given for calling out pakis and their terrorism.

I feel it can be because of only one reason. Strict Govt advisories. Nothing else. Getting harrassed by a Bangladeshi or a Pakistani was common here.

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