Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism
Who is this person?
Pakistan is only claiming minor damage to NurKhan airbase it seems
That I have no idea. Seems like from some podcast.
 
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism
Who is this person?
Pakistan is only claiming minor damage to NurKhan airbase it seems
That I have no idea. Seems like from some podcast.
Originally posted by: Swathi_7
No fear in confronting them..
Pakis inside pakistan doesnt know they lost every war ..pakis outside know that ..yet since being a muslim majority they get support from other country muslims..so the noise is loud..only religion is at play here..
Indians are posting their narrative in many world news channels in Reddit and spreading the reality,they talk via youtube through channels accessible for them..those with international reach do not wish to open their mouth(this is where we lose)...what more can a commoner like me and you do..it is up to the government to take care of it officially..
No I know the influencers are doing their job. I think even the likes of Arvind Saharan etc have exposed them
MEA and MIB this time have done great job in spreading across the truth.
These things however remain in elite circles. World knows Pakistan lost all the wars, the best results they have had were the stalemate in 1947-49 and maybe in 65.
2019 and 25 weren't even wars
Biggest thing is they have been losing lands since 47, even if not Bangladesh, they have lost control on Siachen, Qaed point etc.
The thing is about common people like you and me. The jibe 6-0 wasn't created by any influencer of Pakistan. Common people did that and now it has reached all across.
We however aren't able to create any such jibe. This could be also on how the SM platform promotes the post but then we are multifold times
Just my view
Originally posted by: JumpinJack
Oh no that's not true especially talking about this space.
Some of us do confront them but then then the moderation usually goes with them and we end up losing out accounts.
I partially agree with this.
This forum is still rather new. If I remember correctly it was created around the israel-Palestine conflict time. At that time there were hardly 5-6 active members from our side.
However, this time around I'm pleasantly surprised to see so many of us openly supporting India and confronting the other side. I don't remember it happening on IF, on this scale, ever before, since the time I've been here. Even during URI time it wasn't on this scale. Also, most of those members have left due to moderation issues.
On the bwf, however things are largely the same as Before.
Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism
Who is this person?
Pakistan is only claiming minor damage to NurKhan airbase it seems
Yes i got into tussle with a guy/girl from pak on reddit..he/she came into indian pages and started commenting why do Indians think we are lying and do not feel that Indian army could be lying ..i said you are a poor country and lack education which is why it is easy to brainwash you not us because we dont celebrate untill we see proofs unlike u ..then he/she said his/her house is near Nur khan and the blast was due to debris and not due to full scale attack ..
I said how do i believe bring proof for that also..bye..
They keep saying that but their own commoners visuals show their base have been attacked..full of hypocritical delusion ..
Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism
I really think we Indians need to work more on the SM presence.
You see all the Pakistanis have now built the narrative of 6-0(meaning Pakistan won 6 and India won 0 wars)
All of them in Facebook, on X and everywhere also using this statement. Now they have made this their new "Tea is Fantastic"
We clearly know that this 6-0 is wrong, but that has become their jibe against India. While nothing of that sort India could organically create..
Is it that we fear confronting them and let them rule the SM space?
Actually indians are doing far more than pakistanis. Remember our population is 1.4 billion while theirs is just 0.2 billion. So even if just a quarter of our people start putting pakistanis in their place on social media, we can easily dominate and thats exactly whats happening. Pakistanis simply cannot match us in terms of social media presence.
Yes there are liberals who dont support india but the number of loyal Indians far exceeds both pakistani supporters and liberals combined. These loyal Indians are doing exactly whats needed, they are actively countering and exposing pakistani propaganda online.
However if i have to point out where we are failing on the global stage, its in the media narrative. The global media landscape is largely biased against india or in favor of pakistan. Since the early days, the pakistani government has been feeding false information to major news outlets like CNN. These outlets would publish stories citing "pakistani government sources” or “anonymous US/French sources” without proper verification. Despite this lack of confirmation, the global media echoed those narratives and soon the world started believing pakistan was somehow defeating india, all based on unverified reports.
The only media outlet that tried to present india’s side was Yalda Hakim’s Sky News. She genuinely made an effort to show india’s achievements and truth but unfortunately, their reach was limited compared to giants like CNN.
I have watched plenty of korean, japanese, thai and other east asian news channels to understand their perspective (As west was already manipulated by CNN) and it became clear that even the eastern sphere was heavily influenced by CNN's false narrative as well. They were simply repeating what CNN reported, without fact checking or presenting alternative views. This is how the global spread of a false narrative happened.
Indians actually did a lot to stop the spread of misinformation but they were dismissed and mocked online, called pajeets, IT cell scammers, liars and other slurs. Adding to the damage was our own media, which kept pushing sensationalism and misinformation as if there were no consequences. Honestly if someone abroad watches channels like Zee News or Republic TV spreading misleading or exaggerated stories, do you really think they will believe us, even when we tell the truth?? Still despite all this, most indians fought relentlessly against pakistani narratives on social media.
One major mistake on our part was that our government wasnt vocal enough during the early stages of the conflict. We didnt use global platforms like CNN to tell our side of the story, while pakistan was actively pushing theirs. As a result, the international media only presented pakistan’s version, and the world believed it. If only our government had engaged with international media from the beginning, things might have been different today.
Now, the government is finally trying to send ministers abroad to present india’s perspective. But honestly, it might be too late. Im not sure whether it will work or not but i still hope the world eventually sees the truth about this conflict and understands our side of the story.
Pakistanis were claiming that India hit civilians and their homes. I really wanted to know if they provided any solid proof.
Because on our side, I believe in the Kashmir region, I saw a video showing that homes of Hindus were affected. Thankfully, they’re okay.
Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism
No I know the influencers are doing their job. I think even the likes of Arvind Saharan etc have exposed them
MEA and MIB this time have done great job in spreading across the truth.
These things however remain in elite circles. World knows Pakistan lost all the wars, the best results they have had were the stalemate in 1947-49 and maybe in 65.
2019 and 25 weren't even wars
Biggest thing is they have been losing lands since 47, even if not Bangladesh, they have lost control on Siachen, Qaed point etc.
The thing is about common people like you and me. The jibe 6-0 wasn't created by any influencer of Pakistan. Common people did that and now it has reached all across.
We however aren't able to create any such jibe. This could be also on how the SM platform promotes the post but then we are multifold times
Just my view
Im okay with your views..but only thing I understood is that history is different for different people ..
I read views of different people yesterday from across the world
eg Israelis believe that Israelis were driven out of israel by arabs who all joined together..they say mass exodus happened ..but later israel fought against arabs and won over the war and then came back to occupy israel ..
But palestinenians deny that and say that NO arab war happened at all and arabs did not lose any war to israels at all ..they deny the very starting
See the difference..the same is happening to India vs Pak wars ..Indians despite have won on record, pak refuse to believe it and keep denying it and so are those people..it is going to be like this only..nobody can change it..
I believe the only war India should win is economic war and become leading independent nation and leave all these guys far behind..
Originally posted by: Swathi_7
Yes i got into tussel with a guy/girl from pak on reddit..he/she came into indian pages and started commenting why do Indians think we are lying and do not feel that Indian army could be lying ..i said you are a poor country and lack education which is why it is easy to brainwash you not us because we dont celebrate untill we see proofs unlike u ..then he/she said his/her house is near Nur khan and the blast was due to debris and not due to full scale attack ..
I said how do i believe bring proof for that also..bye..
They keep saying that but their own commoners visuals show their base have been attacked..full of hypocritical delusion ..
One word for them : DELUSION 😂
They wont know meaning for that also..
 
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