Interpreting Mr. Saluja sirji - Page 2

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Originally posted by: Moor278

I will have to disagree with you ....

I have already mentioned he does have a angry streak... my point was only that they placed it properly (writing wise) for Vikrant to have distrust on Mannat. His instant anger is definitely a problem... but Mannat has been caught in a situation time and again where she doesn't have a proof...

And even when she does... she doesnt show it.. like in yesterday's episode...

That I believe is a writers decision just to stretch matters...

In all the situations that she has been pleading that she didn't do... The evidence is against her... in the media fiasco and yesterday's episode where she directly blamed his family...

If Vikrant believes her blindly... I am pretty sure people would call him dumb and stupid. There is no realization of his feelings for Mannat on his part at this point. So if he does support her... it would look even worse for his character considering the hierarchical relationship they share. The name calling will worsen.

P.S. since I have watched the original... in my opinion this track is exactly to build what you guys are suggesting... build trust that Mannat never does wrong.... come what may.

My opinion of the happenings quite different since I have not watched the original. When the evidence is against her he doesn't have to believe her, but my issue is he doesn't even give her a chance to explain and then goes on to say I have always been with you in every situation. That does not seem very fair to me. But this is just my opinion

Originally posted by: Moor278

If this offends anyone… please skip…

To those who like this… lets hear your thoughts too…

I have done this earlier for another show and have received brickbats... thats why I was holding it off... seriously... ignore if you dont like it.

These are my thoughts regarding Vikrant in this entire track… honestly I don’t think he is wrong…yes he is getting manipulated but that is being done very smartly. I don’t think he is dumb or anything either.

Honestly, I don't believe Vikrant is wrong and have been saying this since the get lost promo aired. Why should he trust Mannat just because there might be a love angle with her in future whom he just met over his family . The people who are influencing him are the ones who are also trying to to cover up using his weakness for his family.

It starts with his anban with Mannat on the day this assault happened. He instructs Mannat Shalini to leave immediately and expects they must have. Sadly it doesn’t happen.

Vik doesn’t know it of course and by the time he gets to know… a lot of evidence is wiped out.

My peeve with that particular episode was his approach in dealing with the issue. In order to make him sound good and a man of principle….. the writers didn’t give him enough time or dialogues to express his concerns or process his thoughts. Vikrant very easily agrees to help Shalini and be with Mannat but he doesn’t ponder over how it looks for Mezbani…. I expected him to show some initial resistance in exposing Mezbanis name and the location (which ARS was trying to hide) and have a thought about all the employees who would get affected …. But he agrees instantly…. I feel the writers/editors made a mistake here.

This scene too I was ok considering he was always shown to be a man of principles and they did have dialogues where he talks about how a girl's life is more important than Mezbaani.

My problem in this scene was his lineant nature towards ARS who clearly wanted to coverup and destroy the evidence and claim Shalini was found on a road. Not just this she gave the same statement to the cops trying to to prove Mannat a lier which Mannat explained. His lack of action here was weird.

Once they have elevated Vik here by standing by the truth…his hurt over the media fiasco and his upset about mezbanis name is spoiled looks like an afterthought…. Fueled nicely by Punnu and ARS. They know its his dream and his attachment to Mezbani…. So they use it to manipulate him… Vik thinks about how it looks for mezbani at this point… not before that…. Which is odd to me. As a businessman his priority should have been for his dream project…even for a moment.

I would have loved if his initial thought (even if slightly selfish) was for Mezbani… but nevertheless side with Mannat/Shalini eventually…that would have made him a true BKB…. Most of people here or otherwise rued the fact that he is no more BKB from that point onwards.

Secondly his reaction to Mannat… yes he was harsh and has a angry streak…that is shown multiple times by now…. The first angry outburst was due to the fact Punnu fed him… neither Punnu nor ARS knew it was Derek and at that point only these 5 people knew… 4 of which did not want to leak the news…whereas Mannat desperately wanted to… so it was an obvious deduction at that point. Viks outburst was partly due to feeling betrayed by Mannat as he believed she trusted him and knew him enough. He says this to Malla and I find it revealing his character…. He says by going to media, I felt like Mannat showed me that I don’t care enough about Shalini…. To him it was a matter of ethics… his ethics being questioned by Mannat… the one person he wants to have a good image of him

Again I am ok with his reaction to being manipulated that it was Mannat based on the explanation provided by Punnu and ARS. But, why was he upset, was he upset Mezbaani might close due to this or was he upset he felt Mannat didn't trust him. The reason I point this out , when he decided to support Mannat and Shalini Mezbaani's name would have come out nevertheless, what changed now.

Also, With the media reaction did he feel they are being judged because of their wealth and are going through a media trial ?

Also, the way he wanted to listen to Mannat in his room, but never gave her an opportunity to speak showcasing his anger issues especially when it comes to Mannat he is way too sensitive and loses his marbles. Why is he so sensitive to anything related to Mannat, why didn't he seem so angry at Derek, Malla or ARS for things which happened?

He still cares for Mannat as is amply clear with his reaction to Derek.

His calmness is odd to me like many of us felt…. He probably believes (this is my assumption) that it was a stray event… none of them were involved (until Derek is framed of course) and then with his arrest matter is resolved. I would have liked if the writers had explored this angle of Vik thinking its an inside job a little bit. Or what if it happens again… he neither did once question about the evidence collection or cleaning up of the venue…. Which I assume is a trivial matter for ITV ML.

His calmness in addressing a gruesome crime still baffles me, but I also believe this is because the makers want to stretch the track unfortunately. He gladly agrees when ARS says let's gather samples 1st before CCTV footage and when he later walks in there is no one in the CCTV room and his reaction was quite mild compared to how he blasted Mannat.

In todays episode… he first came to say sorry but got upset when Mannat pointed out family’s involvement. He took every body’s name including himself (except bobby) and eventually deduced angrily that she doesn’t believe him… has such a poor opinion of him. But then he rethinks and discusses with Malla…. Now I don’t think it was a discussion… it was more like he was treating Malla like a sounding board… and since he had initially blurted his thoughts out loud … probably felt like explaining more.

I wrote a small post on this last night infact, the way he was calmly listening and then half heartedly was angry with Mannat looks like some where subconsciously he believes Mannat but doesn't want to say it out loud that there might be a coverup.

Coming to a last bit of today where he said Courts will give justice…. This is I feel where we can understand Vik a little more…. He believes courts will deliver justice to Shalini…. What he doesn’t know that Indian courts are notorious for not doing that… rich people do buy out…. Which is exactly what ARS is doing… and Mannat is worried for…. Mannat understands this… hence the panic…. He doesn’t…

Another example is him saying ‘log kya kahenge’…. Vik doesn’t have that sense… but as an Indian girl and especially one who is poor…Mannat knows….

Word word word, I said this when Mannat pointed out log kyaa kahehenge

He also probably didn’t expect people maligning Mezbani for what happened… maybe believed people wont link them as place of disrepute which is odd too considering he is a businessman and understands how optics work…

I can imagine all of this is because he hasn’t lived in India and his parents are genuine nice people who have given him good upbringing…. Its not in his mind to think such stuff…. Doesn’t understand, hence doesn’t believe…. That’s why he thinks ARS is genuinely helping Shalini…hasn’t seen her true colours…. Shalini isn’t helping either with her “I forgot” statement.

Mannat at this point is fighting a battle nobody wants herto…

Regarding ARS… yes is being too naïve…. Mannat clearly pointed out ARS was bluffing and trying to hide… why he believes its with good intention is probably because of the reasons I listed above…

And for Malla…. I am completely okay with her…. Her role is now limited to being Viks shadow… as an actor and as a character she has absolutely no purpose in the story if she is not around him… OG Melisa wali stage pe ye aaegi bhi to shayad kuch farak nahi padega…

And for the ‘rich and poor’ statement…. I already mentioned this in another comment… Vik somewhere feels guilty that he is blessed with money and all the privileges money can buy… that’s why he says to Mannat (once when he was ginaoing the ehsaans) that I supported you because I wanted to give you a chance you otherwise wont get. It is not condescending the way Malla says… his is more honest…

I think he said similar thing to Derek too…

My point being Vik is a naïve character when it comes to relationships and he is unable to process his feelings for Mannat which is making him behave errantly.

His problem is what Mannat tells him after freezer fiasco he is never a jhagadalu so what happened today and his extreme care and trust in his family. You can see this with the way he apologizes to everyone even if it isn't his fault. Hopefully things change for the better after his trust is broken by the very same family if it comes out

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Originally posted by: Moor278

I will have to disagree with you ....

I have already mentioned he does have a angry streak... my point was only that they placed it properly (writing wise) for Vikrant to have distrust on Mannat. His instant anger is definitely a problem... but Mannat has been caught in a situation time and again where she doesn't have a proof...

And even when she does... she doesnt show it.. like in yesterday's episode...

That I believe is a writers decision just to stretch matters...

In all the situations that she has been pleading that she didn't do... The evidence is against her... in the media fiasco and yesterday's episode where she directly blamed his family...

If Vikrant believes her blindly... I am pretty sure people would call him dumb and stupid. There is no realization of his feelings for Mannat on his part at this point. So if he does support her... it would look even worse for his character considering the hierarchical relationship they share. The name calling will worsen.

P.S. since I have watched the original... in my opinion this track is exactly to build what you guys are suggesting... build trust that Mannat never does wrong.... come what may.

Originally posted by: Moor278

If this offends anyone… please skip…

To those who like this… lets hear your thoughts too…

I have done this earlier for another show and have received brickbats... thats why I was holding it off... seriously... ignore if you dont like it.

These are my thoughts regarding Vikrant in this entire track… honestly I don’t think he is wrong…yes he is getting manipulated but that is being done very smartly. I don’t think he is dumb or anything either.

It starts with his anban with Mannat on the day this assault happened. He instructs Mannat Shalini to leave immediately and expects they must have. Sadly it doesn’t happen.

Vik doesn’t know it of course and by the time he gets to know… a lot of evidence is wiped out.

My peeve with that particular episode was his approach in dealing with the issue. In order to make him sound good and a man of principle….. the writers didn’t give him enough time or dialogues to express his concerns or process his thoughts. Vikrant very easily agrees to help Shalini and be with Mannat but he doesn’t ponder over how it looks for Mezbani…. I expected him to show some initial resistance in exposing Mezbanis name and the location (which ARS was trying to hide) and have a thought about all the employees who would get affected …. But he agrees instantly…. I feel the writers/editors made a mistake here.

Once they have elevated Vik here by standing by the truth…his hurt over the media fiasco and his upset about mezbanis name is spoiled looks like an afterthought…. Fueled nicely by Punnu and ARS. They know its his dream and his attachment to Mezbani…. So they use it to manipulate him… Vik thinks about how it looks for mezbani at this point… not before that…. Which is odd to me. As a businessman his priority should have been for his dream project…even for a moment.

I would have loved if his initial thought (even if slightly selfish) was for Mezbani… but nevertheless side with Mannat/Shalini eventually…that would have made him a true BKB…. Most of people here or otherwise rued the fact that he is no more BKB from that point onwards.

Secondly his reaction to Mannat… yes he was harsh and has a angry streak…that is shown multiple times by now…. The first angry outburst was due to the fact Punnu fed him… neither Punnu nor ARS knew it was Derek and at that point only these 5 people knew… 4 of which did not want to leak the news…whereas Mannat desperately wanted to… so it was an obvious deduction at that point. Viks outburst was partly due to feeling betrayed by Mannat as he believed she trusted him and knew him enough. He says this to Malla and I find it revealing his character…. He says by going to media, I felt like Mannat showed me that I don’t care enough about Shalini…. To him it was a matter of ethics… his ethics being questioned by Mannat… the one person he wants to have a good image of him

He still cares for Mannat as is amply clear with his reaction to Derek.

His calmness is odd to me like many of us felt…. He probably believes (this is my assumption) that it was a stray event… none of them were involved (until Derek is framed of course) and then with his arrest matter is resolved. I would have liked if the writers had explored this angle of Vik thinking its an inside job a little bit. Or what if it happens again… he neither did once question about the evidence collection or cleaning up of the venue…. Which I assume is a trivial matter for ITV ML.

In todays episode… he first came to say sorry but got upset when Mannat pointed out family’s involvement. He took every body’s name including himself (except bobby) and eventually deduced angrily that she doesn’t believe him… has such a poor opinion of him. But then he rethinks and discusses with Malla…. Now I don’t think it was a discussion… it was more like he was treating Malla like a sounding board… and since he had initially blurted his thoughts out loud … probably felt like explaining more.

Coming to a last bit of today where he said Courts will give justice…. This is I feel where we can understand Vik a little more…. He believes courts will deliver justice to Shalini…. What he doesn’t know that Indian courts are notorious for not doing that… rich people do buy out…. Which is exactly what ARS is doing… and Mannat is worried for…. Mannat understands this… hence the panic…. He doesn’t…

Another example is him saying ‘log kya kahenge’…. Vik doesn’t have that sense… but as an Indian girl and especially one who is poor…Mannat knows….

He also probably didn’t expect people maligning Mezbani for what happened… maybe believed people wont link them as place of disrepute which is odd too considering he is a businessman and understands how optics work…

I can imagine all of this is because he hasn’t lived in India and his parents are genuine nice people who have given him good upbringing…. Its not in his mind to think such stuff…. Doesn’t understand, hence doesn’t believe…. That’s why he thinks ARS is genuinely helping Shalini…hasn’t seen her true colours…. Shalini isn’t helping either with her “I forgot” statement.

Mannat at this point is fighting a battle nobody wants herto…

Regarding ARS… yes is being too naïve…. Mannat clearly pointed out ARS was bluffing and trying to hide… why he believes its with good intention is probably because of the reasons I listed above…

And for Malla…. I am completely okay with her…. Her role is now limited to being Viks shadow… as an actor and as a character she has absolutely no purpose in the story if she is not around him… OG Melisa wali stage pe ye aaegi bhi to shayad kuch farak nahi padega…

And for the ‘rich and poor’ statement…. I already mentioned this in another comment… Vik somewhere feels guilty that he is blessed with money and all the privileges money can buy… that’s why he says to Mannat (once when he was ginaoing the ehsaans) that I supported you because I wanted to give you a chance you otherwise wont get. It is not condescending the way Malla says… his is more honest…

I think he said similar thing to Derek too…

My point being Vik is a naïve character when it comes to relationships and he is unable to process his feelings for Mannat which is making him behave errantly.

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