Qarz E Jaan (HUM) #4 - Usama, Nameer, Yumna | DT.N. Pg 136 - Page 131

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Nameer wouldn't have said strongly his character is not villian if he really killed his brother in law. He is most probably getting framed.

Oh I can't quote you as it's matured but the screenshot you shared... people talking about rabia's father is heartbreaking ... saying that her dead father is like Ammar and not Burhan. Cruel. But expected. I have been noticing Stan behavior for the last 4 years. It's not normal.

I have finally taken some SS today.

The things I read about Burhan and Nashwa...Nashwa was called a rape enabler. And Burhan a loser lover boy for not starting the case long back.

I get that. It's the writing. We always knew. Up till episode 21 it was really good. But I wish people also saw how Nashwa is human. She tried a lot. She's threatened and shee human and got scared. She saved her mom by herself with no help from Asim or Burhan. The only zulm was on her. She's blackmailed. She's not supporting or enabling.

If Burhan couldn't open a case then how can an intern do that.

Burhan too was shocked at how Nashwa got married. He was right about how though Nashwa didn't promise anything but they had an unsaid bond.

People trashing Burhan because he will take Ammar's case....I'm shocked at these girls. Don't they know how law works?

I have always said there is nothing moral in this profession. It's about being technically correct not morally. The system is owned by the rich and powerful. They set it up so you never win under the fake pretense of justice.

Also, Asad dying... people cheering calling it karma...I mean if something happened to Ammar then it would be one thing. But poor beenish and her baby is innocent. So these nibbi viewers will have to see a woman suffer to punish her evil family? This is some sort of sick revenge. Like the one where people assault females of opposite feuding families.

Why must women always bear the burnt?

Lastly, I thought this drama talked about enabling in different forms and how even when we understand the vulnerabilities of a person if they're part of it then there should be consequences!

I think the writer should not have used the mahi plot and if she did she should have dealt with it in the mid section of the drama instead of at the end.

I still enjoyed this week's episodes. I will now wait to see what happens next. No prediction from me. Asad dying will be very shocking. I always thought that Taya sitting on the chair and looking at the picture was Ammar but it's beenish I guess...

I hope the actors are okay. The amount of hate and love they got...it's intense and narcissistic...like love bombing and withholding. It's abuse almost.

But I also want to appreciate some genuine people for calling out enablers and problematic writing. We can always improve for the next time.

I'm still invested.

Originally posted by: Vivader

The teaser... Is Ammar dying?

No, I think it's Asad. I always thought it was Ammar's death because of OST..

Originally posted by: anikamathur

I feel like ammar will die at end and burhan & nashwa will get their Happy ending

Behen we have to wait. It seems he didn't die and I thought he'd die from the building collapsing

At this point, we wait. Did we call this a masterpiece?

We should wait for the whole drama. Lesson learned.

Also, yes, in terms of direction and acting, it's a masterpiece but we knew about Rabia's soap writing...

I'm just having my popcorn 🍿 as people and nibbis erupt.

There are things which I pointed out eons ago...like being a lawyer Burhan cannot be morally right all the time...what does that make him? That's life. Why bash him now when we always knew his profession. It's clear the Stans and shippers didn't think this through.

Originally posted by: pilot100

It's just to fool us. I am hundred percent sure, none of the crimes have been done by Ammar. Otherwise the writer and actor won't be claiming that, audience will cry for Ammar. ASAD would have Aldready been murdered by someone else. But Ammar would reach the crime scene and no one believe him.

Also Maheen rape and murder both would have be done by his Friends or Bakhtiyar would have murdered Maheen.

I think Ammar will be sent to rehab center for few years. That is the only punishment he will get. Bakhtiyar may or may not go to jail. Dado will realize her mistakes and Nashwa will be shown as a strong lawyer staying in Barkhat Villa only. She will have Sidra as her support. Ammar will come back reformed after a few years

We will find out in the next episode, my guess is Ammar would be like galti hogairy, meiny gussey mein Asad ka qatal kerdiya.

A druggie who gets panic attacks and carries a gun all the time is a recipe for disaster

Originally posted by: pilot100

It's just to fool us. I am hundred percent sure, none of the crimes have been done by Ammar. Otherwise the writer and actor won't be claiming that, audience will cry for Ammar. ASAD would have Aldready been murdered by someone else. But Ammar would reach the crime scene and no one believe him.

Also Maheen rape and murder both would have be done by his Friends or Bakhtiyar would have murdered Maheen.

I think Ammar will be sent to rehab center for few years. That is the only punishment he will get. Bakhtiyar may or may not go to jail. Dado will realize her mistakes and Nashwa will be shown as a strong lawyer staying in Barkhat Villa only. She will have Sidra as her support. Ammar will come back reformed after a few years

Agar usne rape nahi kiya to usne bola kyu nahi ke usne rape nahi kiya uske friends ne kiya? Hame yu kyu dikhaya gaya ke wo main rapist hai? Aur phir us video me kya tha jo Maheen ne delete karwaya ghar aakar?

I cannot digest how the mahi plot was used. How can that be a side track? Is this a joke? And we have never been to the court..I guess it is a family room drama done well till episode 21. And if Ammar didn't do it (as per all the hints from writer and actor) then they have let this get settled for too long in people's mind because most cannot comprehend change. Their minds are rigid. Also, how about highlighting enabling? Are they going to explain everything away somehow? I'm intrigued and disturbed at the same time...

This is not good writing but I honestly always was apprehensive of rabia's writing...just look at tark e wafa.

I have a lot to say about due process but I will hold my horse for now.

Originally posted by: blahblah131

Lol, exactly. Maheen issue had existed from the very beginning, It had irked me too. The shippers on X are having a breakdown about it only after Nashwa and Ammar's rukhsati. If they were still getting their romantic scenes, unko Kuch yaad nahi aana tha.

They got mad that Yumna shared a Collab post with Nameer and not Usama.

Chalo Ammar to enabler hai hi. Ab to lagta hai Burhan bhi enabler hai by taking shady cases and Nashwa as well . Burhan then should check if someone is truly innocent before taking a case ...oops that's his job.

Enabling ko bhi ajeeb mazak bana diya... honestly, it's the writer's issue but I don't want to be harsh. Reading the comment about her dad made me sad. But I hope we learn for the next time.

Shooting is done and unlike TB voiceover will ruin logic for future episodes.

Mazak nahi karna chahiye but jab me yeh sab parti hu then my brains cells cry.

Also, they were like Nashwa I know you are in nikkah but please have an affair I Stan it. Phir likha k please sir Burhan line cross karlo.

I mean they have no real morals but will come to teach people who have dimensional and complex views lol?

Also, the Asad actor at times says different things. We must wait and see. I totally get how new actors get excited. Some take their words too seriously lol.

I made sense of the mahi plot by telling myself that writer is depicting what happens in reality but it still irked me.

Another thing that irked me is how Everyone behaves around Ammar a rapist.

If they wanted to show a redemption arc for Ammar then they have put themselves in a corner. It's not possible anymore, they showed him leaving mahi to die on the roadside and blackmailing her.

Originally posted by: HMMN

Agar usne rape nahi kiya to usne bola kyu nahi ke usne rape nahi kiya uske friends ne kiya? Hame yu kyu dikhaya gaya ke wo main rapist hai? Aur phir us video me kya tha jo Maheen ne delete karwaya ghar aakar?

Sorry to butt in but I doubt people pay attention. I can't believe I have to say this but what I'm writing next, it's not in his defense but what's been shown so far.

1. He said he didn't do it when his dad was beating him up. That was shown today during flashback as well

2. The actor during something haute interview cleared that the videos were of their relationship not of the assault. His phone was off when the video was sent to her...he was in Lahore and was using the hotel phone

3. He doesn't know who did it so how will he say it was his friends.

4. The previous firs - they don't state what those are for. I'm guessing they'll tell us during the trial? Sadaf haider the journalist/ reviewer was like these are all same cases like Mahi. But this is something she just assumed that she is presenting as a fact lol. Ab ho bhi sakta hai. And this is why when we have the trail everything will be shown in detaila.

5. I think they meant make it a mystery but kuch zada ho Gaya. To use the most heinous crime as a sub plot is crazy. I hope they learn from it.

Now enabling - we saw he took her to the party. Fine people go to parties but he is responsible for where and what type of people an innocent girl is surrounded by. But he ordered the special juice, no? Then he just asked to take her upstairs? Then who dumped mahi like that? He also didn't contact police or help her with evidence that he might have like information about the people there or his friends...

This is what we have as facts

Personally, the writing has issues and the way it's been handled. The handling of the most painful issue in life was not done well.

Even if they provide explanations it will feel like they used such a cruel thing as a side. I feel they should have picked it up right after beenish's wedding.

I'm disturbed and intrigued at the same time as to how they'll show and explain things. I'm ready to see it go south but still will watch till the end.