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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: kuhelidebbarma

He has got whole career to do social dramas...when he isn’t in the peak of his career anymore..

This was supposed to be a 30 episode drama..now if they stretch and drag it,obviously Wahaj's screentime had to be cut...Its no way right and playing with the emotions of fans..but what can be done if makers are greedy..

Also I have no complaints regarding his character...just the acting was inconsistent in some scenes..unfortunately this kind of story based on ensemble cast didn't work for him because people want to see him only...next time he should do a drama which completely focus on him...and is ML-centric. That's all we can hope.

My personal thoughts…he’s a big boy, he didn’t start acting yesterday, he has more insight than the rest of us here that are not in the business, he made it this far based on some strategy and he’ll figure things out. I’m sure no one cares more about Wahaj’s career than Wahaj himself. I’m not going to stress myself out about it. As a viewer and a fan, I will watch him until I find him entertaining and will stop once I don’t. I never once thought he would retain his TB fame since that is a bit unrealistic to expect so I did foresee that there would be some decline. Is he done and dusted? I really don’t think so and the fact that people are watching such a slow paced show to grab a glimpse of him is a testament to that. Also the show occupying so much of the non-viewing crowd’s minds also shows me how relevant he is. Maybe he’s done or maybe not. How can anyone say for sure?
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

For a wahaj ali mega signature project post tb with this starcast and budget should be making ehram e junoon kaffara or rej numbers on yt at least. Especially with low trps, yt views shud be higher to compensate. Forget jn, kmkt or im, falling behind jafa, khaie, kaffara, iqtidar, rah e junoon, dunyapur and msm is not a good look. At this rate, smd wont even make it to top 10 in terms of yt views among 2024 shows.

I get it but haven’t we all pointed out the issues that don’t make this show appealing to most people? The slow pace, the dragging from day one, lack of interaction between the leads, 2 seconds of Wahaj in recent episodes etc. So the fact that it is getting this many views in itself is an accomplishment
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Posted: 1 years ago

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

I get it but haven’t we all pointed out the issues that don’t make this show appealing to most people? The slow pace, the dragging from day one, lack of interaction between the leads, 2 seconds of Wahaj in recent episodes etc. So the fact that it is getting this many views in itself is an accomplishment

Yes, I don't know how someone with logical mind can't get this. its possible only if someone doesn't want to accept his fame. And about budget, come on geo is fooling labeling the signature and all as they have anyway got hefty amount from advertisement agencies labeling such . They have made drama slow pace to increase episodes and make money by making more episodes, even if less views per episodes, they're making money. and still its not that less. considering the drama track. Even if drama track was good this kind of story will fetch only around these views and not like JeN or TB.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: kuhelidebbarma

He has got whole career to do social dramas...when he isn’t in the peak of his career anymore..

This was supposed to be a 30 episode drama..now if they stretch and drag it,obviously Wahaj's screentime had to be cut...Its no way right and playing with the emotions of fans..but what can be done if makers are greedy..

Also I have no complaints regarding his character...just the acting was inconsistent in some scenes..unfortunately this kind of story based on ensemble cast didn't work for him because people want to see him only...next time he should do a drama which completely focus on him...and is ML-centric. That's all we can hope.

I'm not saying to do social dramas. Lets stop pretending all commercial dramas are smd or jn. Radd aiej kmkt brkrrj faraar khaie jej were not social dramas. Heck namak haram and zulm were average mainstream dramas not bad bad. Even khumar was only boilerplate bad. There are good commercial dramas. Agar woh nahi toh average ya average bad commercial dramas bhi bohat hain. Even geos upcoming slate of mega projects look different, only the danish one seems typical.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Wahaj ke brand ko kuch bhi nahi hua hai yaar...all you people are expecting him to do tere bin type of show once again...but abhi koi bhi aisa show on air hai hi nahi.

Right now,faraar(which has biggest names of the industry),qarz e jaan,tan man neel o neel are very good content wise..but how many views are they getting? How many people are talking about it? If Wahaj did that kind of show,only elitist people and critics would have been happy.

And except all these,right now only iqtidar type of C-grade show exist which is just running on brainless chemistry where hero is spineless. Than people would have been happy?

So what should he do? He should just wait for the "right script " which would be good commercially as well as critically? When will that right script come? When he will cross 40? A star has to think lot of things before signing a show.

"Out of sight is out of mind" ...and lot of stars have lost their stardom because of "waiting for right ther a lister is sitting at home and all are able to do projects

What views are you even flexing. Smd getting 8m views in a week and not even crossing 10m after 2 weeks is an embarrassment. If he did a faraar or tmnon and that got 5 6m, it would still have been an achievement giv3n the genre or the channel plus the critical appreciation.

Which a lister is doing 3rd lead in absolutely shit mega signature high budget commercial dramas that is also getting flop trps and struggling with views. Jn was bad drama that was roasted but got 2.5billion views at least. Radd and aiej get good trps and Sherry is praised by everyone and radd was really good quality wise. Hamza ali abbasi did a jej which got good trps. Feroze is doing humraaz and sanwal yaar pya which is a multistarrer but ferize will definitely noy be the 3rd lead. Even in khumar his ss was balanced.

It is not that big of a deal. Wahaj ke brand kuch bhi nehi hoga.
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

I'm not saying to do social dramas. Lets stop pretending all commercial dramas are smd or jn. Radd aiej kmkt brkrrj faraar khaie jej were not social dramas. Heck namak haram and zulm were average mainstream dramas not bad bad. Even khumar was only boilerplate bad. There are good commercial dramas. Agar woh nahi toh average ya average bad commercial dramas bhi bohat hain. Even geos upcoming slate of mega projects look different, only the danish one seems typical.

Half of these dramas also aren't that popular and also has less views too, so what do you want, him to get fame or just critical acclaim, first decide on that. Reality is critical acclaim will not get you fame. Wahaj was critically acclaimed earlier but wasn't famous. So I guess his track was to do some commercial dramas now. And in commercial dramas the problem is, sometimes these also can work and not but there are lot of chances to get fame whereas in content kind of dramas critical acclaim is anyway mostly ones get and can relax.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

I'm not saying to do social dramas. Lets stop pretending all commercial dramas are smd or jn. Radd aiej kmkt brkrrj faraar khaie jej were not social dramas. Heck namak haram and zulm were average mainstream dramas not bad bad. Even khumar was only boilerplate bad. There are good commercial dramas. Agar woh nahi toh average ya average bad commercial dramas bhi bohat hain. Even geos upcoming slate of mega projects look different, only the danish one seems typical.

I dont agree with others but KMKT and Khaie were entertaining dramas. KMKT didn't have any story IMO,it just worked because of accidental marriage trope and relatable lead characters. Khaie was a thriller but geo's greed made a 16 episode drama stretch to 29 episodes

What I am saying is what will work and what wont work is not in Wahaj's hands...as an A-lister he has to think a lot of things..about his character,production value,team etc etc.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Let's see humraaz, sanwal yaar piya, dayan and mann mast malang ki trps to see if ur hypothesis is true. By this token they should be getting 5.8 trp in e1 but what if they get much more? Smd got 5.8 trp in e1 when noone knew it would be slow or had alcoholism. I even said before smd aired that lack of audience interest in smd before release was very concerning based on empirical data, and not to expect double digit trp. But 5s ki trp for e1 toh maine worst case scenario main bhi nahi sochi thi.


Also msm started with trp in 4s and 5s less than smd and now climbed to 9s, 2 pts more than smd. If show is liked it breaks out no matter the channel. Ppl said green is small channel and 3 4m views is the ceiling. Now look at iqtidar and dunyapur

Yeh sab bakwas baatein. A show that's liked by masses will break out.

Humraaz looks like it will be a bigger disaster.What a terrible promo.
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

I'm not saying to do social dramas. Lets stop pretending all commercial dramas are smd or jn. Radd aiej kmkt brkrrj faraar khaie jej were not social dramas. Heck namak haram and zulm were average mainstream dramas not bad bad. Even khumar was only boilerplate bad. There are good commercial dramas. Agar woh nahi toh average ya average bad commercial dramas bhi bohat hain. Even geos upcoming slate of mega projects look different, only the danish one seems typical.

I think these are two separate arguments. Are there better commercial dramas out there? 100% yes. Should Wahaj do them? Also yes. But all the ones you listed as well-written and executed dramas mostly have fewer views than SMD. They are better in quality but still got fewer views so doesn’t that just mean that Wahaj’s star power is more than we are giving him credit for?

The desire for him to do quality work I totally understand. Also acknowledging that this project underperformed as per earlier expectations is also fair but then downplaying the views and then comparing it to shows with lower views, I don’t understand

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