Would "Abhira" be called Abheera and hated had she been baby Birla? - Page 7

Originally posted by: itsShonali

Okay, so let's start -

1. She tolerated verbal abuse, character assassination and so much more and remained in that toxic house despite her and her mother's character being questioned.

2. She doesn't care about other people's feelings like how she triggered Ruhi's trauma again and again after she woke up from coma and was made to believe that her child didn't survive. She did the same with Abhir by singing that song and literally blackmailed him into doing what she wanted.

3. She forces herself upon everybody, as in meri family bano, mera sapna, meri happy family thing. Ruhi told her to stay away again and again and insulted her, cursed her, but still the great clown continued to try and make her accept her as a sister. And that this is your matashree was highly insensitive.

4. She talks big but when it comes to act on it, she becomes the greatest phuski bomb in the world. Co-parenting ka bola toh she started having nightmares, sammaan and izzat ki baatein ko toh she still went over to PH to whine about how they don't love her. And within a few days she will be back there and will forget about everything, every abuse, every bad word, again.

5. She continued to tolerate that stupid and toxic mother-in-law, and was ready to die just to give the family their heir so that she could gain Vidya's love and acceptance. Tab toh she didn't complain ki that her respect is limited to being a baby machine?! Now, she is complaining about the same reason for which she was ready to die just a few months back.

6. She doesn't ask the right questions. Like who the hell doesn't want to find out why her mother is being called a murderer, why her mother didn't tell her about her brother? Abhimanyu ka nahi bataya it's understandable and same goes for the Goenka family. But Abhir? And when she found out she has a half-sibling, she acts all clownish and cries mumma, you are a secret keeping champion.

7. She believes is my trauma is trauma but others trauma is past mein hui choti si galati jisse bhool jaana chahiye. She is insensitive and selfish.

8. She acts all good and nice but is very sly. When Ruhi was being insulted by the powder family and even told to leave the house then she didn't say anything, instead she was quick to judge her and blame her that she wanted to harm the baby. But then again, she didn't even speak up for herself at times so that's too much for her.

9. Same thing happened with Dadi sa now, tab kahan thhi yeh self respect ki baatein when Dadi sa used to insult her all the time? It is not the first time that Dadi insulted her and called her names.

In short, the FL is a stupid and annoying clown who talks big but fails to execute. She was good initially like in the first few episodes only but since then her character has turned into another abla, bechaari naari who tries to but fails to be sabpe bhaari.

FL stupid hai, hateable hai, annoying and irritating bhi hai. And this is not about Sam.

Like, have you seen Saavi ki Sawari? Saavi is a hundred times better than this clownbhira. She didn't need any other character around her to be the villain or to do bad things so that she could shine as the good and wonderful FL.

But this clown character needs that.

As for Ruhi, because you all have brought her to make a comparison or whatever, did you all forget what you all say all the time?

That Ruhi is the villain?

If she is the villain she will do bad things only na so there is no point in questioning the actions of a villain.

Questionable are the actions of stupid, baby kidnapper FL whose self-respect will vaporize in a matter of few days.

Also, you all continue to imply again and again that clown is hated because of who her father is. Dude, I don't hate Abhinav, he was a good guy, a nice man but his daughter is annoying and plain weird.

Even if she was Abhimanyu's daughter or Naithik's or Kartik's or anybody else's I would have hated this clown.

Also, this is my last comment on this thread because I know that no matter what we say you all will continue to believe what you want to. Makes me think that if you aren't willing to understand others point of view so why even ask them about it. But it's fine.

Bye!

You have really good points yes in general ITV's FLs are damn annoying including this 🙄 FL

Originally posted by: shahsb_26

I am really curious and probably may not believe (or even be able to read) lot of responses.

Still wondering of a few scenarios.. I will never agree that amount of hate fictional character gets and obsession of people with hating her just stems from character herself but mostly because of her history...

Scenario 1: keep it simple

Assume ManRa would have married, they would have a child who became FL of the show... Would Chuhi still get so much of support?

No. Definitely not. Ruhi would be a blink and miss it character then or a completely hated vamp.

Scenario 2- Like Abhir - Like Abhira...

Baby would have been AkshNav's child by birth but would have been bought up for say 10 years this time by ManRa... And she would have actually called Trashmanyu her papa, and not spoken much about Abhinav at all... Would she still be hated?

Here she will be doubly hated. I never watched the previous gen so don't have any attachment to either. So from that pov, I feel, half fans would have disliked that she is Abhinav's bio child.... because some similarities would be shown. And the rest would dislike her affection towards Abhimanyu because it would feel like she is keeping him above her bio dead.

Then in X there would be daily drama about Dad Abhinav vs Dad Abhimanyu.

There would be many salty scenes where some might remember Abhimanyu's characteristics in her or Abhinav's and that day X would be a warzone and headache for everyone.

Conclusion: Abhira will always be hated.

Scenario 3 - undo Gen 2

Here we completely write of Chuhi... This is also for AkshNav fans... Had there be two daughters one with Abhinav and after his death, Akshu married and moved on with Trashmanyu... Had a daughter.. BUT..

Twist here is that ManRa bought up Abhira together, their parvarish, and their daughter as soul for let's say 5-10 years ... And Akshara would have been pregnant again with ManRa kid and before she was out in the world her Dad died and mom died during birth... So, she had legit bought up as an orphan cuz well Birlas were on road after Parth's scam...

But you know Manra would be FL and not AkshNav wali Abhira... Cuz you know na.. Rule book says Child of *Leads* is FL.

This is a quicksand. It will be very hard to determine whom DKP would make the lead but if I had to go with What I have realised of Shahi; it would be Akshnav's daughter only. Abhira would have been made a nanny of her younger sibling who would grow up pampered with Goenkas. Lol....this is like Gen 3 re-write and not worth the headache to even imagine it.

Scenario 4: Changed scenario

Abhir was indeed Abhira (Girl Child) who was bought up by Akshnav. And after years Akshnavi was born after death of Abhinav.

Abhira was lost after tragic lanslide and grew up on her own.

ManRa raised Akshnavi for 6 years and she was their parvarish.

Basically Biological Swap:

Akshnavi Birla and Abhira Sharma..

And who would have been lead and loved more?

It would depend on how much DKP wants to invest and introduces first😅

Mostly they introduce the leads with family. If they do so with the Birla baby(who is actually Akshnav's daughter) without showing any hint of Sharma baby(who is actually Abhir😮‍💨) then Birla baby is the lead. But if they show in parallel; two girls....two lives....the one who is more Mahaan takes the take. I have a feeling though that Akshnavi (Abhinav and Ak's daughter raised by ManRa) would have been the lead...ideal, perfect, mahan kind. Who would have been in an arrange marriage with the ML who probably would have loved the Birla child he had met once somewhere....like those pehli nazar mein pyar types 😪 we would get to see the Irritation of the elder sis first towards ML but later falling for the spineless idiot(because that's how he would be) then get into a situation where the man that proposed her is literally marrying another girl. That girl our FL will have to undergo emotional cheating of her idiot husband who would then turn into a new leaf and suddenly become perfect Husband and all blame will go on the other girl who would then turn up to be the FL's elder bio sister missing and believed to be dead😪😪

Comments in Pink!

Disclaimer: My own POV after watching this Gen of Rishta. Never watched the previous ones.

Sometimes I wonder if she’s hated because she’s Akshara’s daughter or if she’s Abhinav’s daughter lol because she gets linked to her parents way more than she should but she has to be Akshara’s daughter no if we bring the father into the question, she definitely has more haters because she’s Abhinav’s daughter and that would have slightly changed if Abhimanyu got a few years to raise her before he passed away because then that “tarbiyat” would ease it down a bit but honestly nothing would have changed much in how Abhira is today. She was raised by a single parent without any family so her character is shown to want love and family. She is forgiving and we all know fl tend to forgive everyone easily except the ml lol.

I see Abhira is a people pleaser. She likes to stand up for others and even get into their business thinking she’s helping which they may or may not like but she’s definitely not a villain as some people on this forum think. I’m kinda used to seeing mahaan fl so that doesn’t really surprise me and they do get hate as well but cherry on top is when she gets hate for being Abhinav’s daughter.

Originally posted by: itsShonali

I hate her for her character, would have hated her even if she had been a Birla, a Singhania or even a Maheshwari had she still been like this.

I don't hate her because of her parentage, I hate her because of what her character has turned into - a clown.

I know Ruhi is turned into negative lead but still I connect with her . She is naturally faulty but mostly due to her traumatic past and ofcourse because of useless Goenkas and selfish cheater Armaan.I am happy to see her family complete but I know she will be ruined yet again to glorify that stupid FL.

I don’t like her, and I didn’t watch the previous season. Abhira has an internalized misogyny and spreads wrong messages. There are other reasons too why I don’t like her and those reasons are mentioned by some here. She used to be good in the beginning but became unnecessary rude with Ruhi and hypocrite and annoying as a person. Another reason is her fans who accuse everyone as gen3 viewers when anyone say anything about Abhira which isn’t praising or worshipping her.

A good question is would Abhinav’s stans like Abhira if Abhira was Birla?

Meanwhile Abhira taking stand for Ruhi even during gangour pooja she stood up for Ruhi. The only time she didn't was when she had enough of Ruhi hating the baby because of him being Abhira's child (according to her perspective).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvcC1XTMu-g

This forum is running on ego wars between two fds and will continue to run so atleast for few more years. 😆 Abhimanyu fans will never like/support someone who is liked/supported by Abhinav fans and vice versa. 😄 Everyone is bringing their egos while discussing a fictional illogical daily soap and I am sure after few years, dono hi fds ke people are going to laugh at themselves thinking, hum log ek stupid itv show ko leke kya kya kar rahe they. 😂

If Abhira was Abhimanyu's biological daughter or atleast would have been raised by him for few years, she wouldn't have got this much hatred from Abhimanyu's fandom. Those who claim that they would have still hated Abhira even if she was a Birla, nah gals! You people are the ones who applauded Ruhi for trying to name an innocent baby Ashubh. You all would have hated and mocked Abhira like this if she was Birla. NEVER!

On the other hand Abhinav fandom would have surely surely hated Abhira, would have found faults in each and everything she does or says and would have blindly supported any character who goes against her just like how Manyu fandom is doing. The main reason Abhira is getting so much love and support from Nav fandom is because she's achcha aadmi's biological daughter and also kinda looks like him.

Frankly speaking, for me there's nothing likeable in Abhira. She's a typical mahaan selfless ITV FL jo hamesha girgit ki tarah rang badalte rehte hain. The only thing worth watching is Sam's marvelous acting. 👏

Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

This forum is running on ego wars between two fds and will continue to run so atleast for few more years. 😆 Abhimanyu fans will never like/support someone who is liked/supported by Abhinav fans and vice versa. 😄 Everyone is bringing their egos while discussing a fictional illogical daily soap and I am sure after few years, dono hi fds ke people are going to laugh at themselves thinking, hum log ek stupid itv show ko leke kya kya kar rahe they. 😂

If Abhira was Abhimanyu's biological daughter or atleast would have been raised by him for few years, she wouldn't have got this much hatred from Abhimanyu's fandom. Those who claim that they would have still hated Abhira even if she was a Birla, nah gals! You people are the ones who applauded Ruhi for trying to name an innocent baby Ashubh. You all would have hated and mocked Abhira like this if she was Birla. NEVER!

On the other hand Abhinav fandom would have surely surely hated Abhira, would have found faults in each and everything she does or says and would have blindly supported any character who goes against her just like how Manyu fandom is doing. The main reason Abhira is getting so much love and support from Nav fandom is because she's achcha aadmi's biological daughter and also kinda looks like him.

Frankly speaking, for me there's nothing likeable in Abhira. She's a typical mahaan selfless ITV FL jo hamesha girgit ki tarah rang badalte rehte hain. The only thing worth watching is Sam's marvelous acting. 👏

Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

This forum is running on ego wars between two fds and will continue to run so atleast for few more years. 😆 Abhimanyu fans will never like/support someone who is liked/supported by Abhinav fans and vice versa. 😄 Everyone is bringing their egos while discussing a fictional illogical daily soap and I am sure after few years, dono hi fds ke people are going to laugh at themselves thinking, hum log ek stupid itv show ko leke kya kya kar rahe they. 😂

If Abhira was Abhimanyu's biological daughter or atleast would have been raised by him for few years, she wouldn't have got this much hatred from Abhimanyu's fandom. Those who claim that they would have still hated Abhira even if she was a Birla, nah gals! You people are the ones who applauded Ruhi for trying to name an innocent baby Ashubh. You all would have hated and mocked Abhira like this if she was Birla. NEVER!

On the other hand Abhinav fandom would have surely surely hated Abhira, would have found faults in each and everything she does or says and would have blindly supported any character who goes against her just like how Manyu fandom is doing. The main reason Abhira is getting so much love and support from Nav fandom is because she's achcha aadmi's biological daughter and also kinda looks like him.

Frankly speaking, for me there's nothing likeable in Abhira. She's a typical mahaan selfless ITV FL jo hamesha girgit ki tarah rang badalte rehte hain. The only thing worth watching is Sam's marvelous acting. 👏

The only excuse for Ruhi's actions are Ruhi is a VAMP and vamp can trigger people's trauma, vamp can be mean and insensitive but how can FL be insensitive or how can she force people? She should be perfect. People are actually happy supporting a vamp which is not a problem as it's their choice BUT Abhira is hated for being rude and insenstive to VAMP who has been rude and insensitive towards her countless times. Logic ends here. Parmater to hate Abhira beside her being Abhinav/Akshara's daughter is "How dare Abhira be insensitive and rude towards Ruhi devi g ops vamp ops character who posess human traits?" Now Ruhi is giving her not so needed gyaan to Abhira regarding her personal relationship with Armaan. Why she is not called names or termed nosy, interfering and annoying?

Abhinav's fans might not have bothered to watch Gen 4 let alone criticizing Gen 4 leads.

Imo, if Abhira were Birla's daughter she wouldn't have been hated that much and nobody would have thought or cared much about ruhi. Like before preleap same people weren't of too supportive of unreasonable behavior of baby ruhi when abhir was arrived .

If abhira was raised by abhimanyu and akshara she would still be hated by some like arohi was hated being sirat daughter plus her dominated behavior add on to her hate though sirat was a good mother to three kids .

In case of abhira and akshnavi forum would still be in war zone coz makers would have created sister's war for one man and same gen 3 risne and repeat would have been served us