Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai 09Dec’24 Written Update, Episode Discussion - Page 36

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Originally posted by: Krinya

It's so good to read meaningful discussions that too on the edt ..

You've put forth all the points ans ruhi has that unresolved anger & resentment which she's projecting on abhira ..

But my take is , why even try to mend it ? They're not the first siblings who are at each othera throats. They are not even real siblings ..expecting familial love from those who don't love you is stupidity..I don't say abhira should stop caring like if ruhi is dying she must let her , no..but the way she's doing it just add to her wooes ..they're thrown in the same space , in practical situations, either she should move out or ruhi ..but they won't do it..ruhi is just a plot device to create problems in abhiras life..since yrkkh doesn't have outright vamps & villains , they do it this way ..I mean they started doing it this way since last gen..

Arohi had a lot of resentment against akshu but what happened ? Akshu was indirectly involved in Neil's death..but still arohi let go of it & made peace with it later ....coz akshu left birlas ...arohi got the time and space to heal ..to mature ..arohi said as long as akshu is not close , it's all OK..so ruhi can also change in future ..

I believe she needs real love & nurturing .. ruhi is craving for the family & true unconditional love , more than abhira..only then can she heal .that unconditional love can also come from daksh , like in arohis case , it came from ruhi....ghar pe normal jethani devrani ke beech zindagi bhar comparison and competition khatam nai hota toh here we have step siblings with loads of baggage..it won't get resolved just with arohis death truth coming out

More than unconditional love Ruhi needed good parenting which she didn't get after her mother Arohi's death. Goenkas loved her unconditionally but they intensified the hatred & emotional baggage by banishing Akshara instead of making Ruhi understand with time that it was just an accident. Expecting child Ruhi to let go of the trauma is wrong expectation but the one who lost is more sensitive & compassionate despite the outward bitterness. Goenkas bent to her demands against their logical reasoning instead of making her understand firmly that the extreme hatred for Akshara & her suicidal tendencies to get things done her way is wrong. Succumbing to your child's emotional blackmailing or suicidal attempt is extremely bad parenting. Goenkas justified her actions and considered them normal actions of a child who faced trauma which wasn't normal or should be discouraged. Parents can't always bend to the demands of their children. But they did. Poddars also loved her unconditionally as DIL, Ruhi had been their favorite bahu till the time she showed her hatred for their precious waaris. KP adored her & considered her perfect till she got to know about her and Ar's past.

If unconditional love means no betrayal, heartbreak, sharing love with others or broken expectations then that kind of unconditional love is rare because these characters (in real life people) are flawed. Most of the children have mommy issues/daddy issues or childhood trauma in real life because unconditional love or support is not even given by parents or they went through tragic events. Does that mean people without unconditional love absorb bitterness hatred to extent of manipulating people to their advantage, competing with a woman to get married to a man who rejected you several times leaving your husband, considering pregnancy a competition, competing to give waaris, competing to be a priority in any case, hating and wishing harm on a child, In Ruhi's world only she is the victim while person she hates (Abhira) is the villain of her story just because Abhira got what was supposed to be her HAQ. Pratiksha's Ruhi had a soft & sensitive side which actually made it possible to feel bad for her plus she wasn't intentionally manipulative or pathological liar.

Originally posted by: PoojaaNair

Hmm but she got punished too in q diff manner her husband n his actions n all

That's karma like she told in today's episode to Armaan and Abhira. Ruhi is quite the self-analyzing character, except she analyses herself and puts the tag on Abhira.

Originally posted by: Indira1211

yes this will be how we will deal,with this situation in real,life,.but it doesn’t happen on itv especially in rishta. In a real case scenario..abhira would have consulted specialists to sort out all her healthy issues and got treatment. And when she’s physically healthy she would have planned and tried for a baby..not jumped in and got pregnant while she’s not healthy and had a complicated pregnancy that put her life at risk. On itv educated woman never use contraception ..they all just do the deed and get pregnant..like really..have they never heard of family planning..😂😂

Meanwhile Abhira to us:

Originally posted by: Debospeaks

Arohi realised after the leap that Akshara will never come back to Birla house. Hence, she mend her ways. Initially when she get to know Abhir being Abhimanyu's son, she tried her best to send him away and that proof is enough to understand that she never changed but became matured and played her cards differently.

Now, Ruhi hates Akshara is absolutely logical but why is she craving for unconditional love??? Didn't her grandparents loved her unconditionally??? I know she craved for parents love but she never had loveless childhood... All three grandparents have treated and raised her as queen. Eventually never schooled her for the mistakes too which they should've done for her betterment.

She loved Armaan, not able to have him. Fair. But she herself has moved on with Rohit now and is sharing a relatively healthy relationship with him until Abhira became pregnant. It was never her concern and nobody asked her too but she out of jealousy and competition with Abhira even risked her pregnancy and her life when Rohit was fully dedicated in taking good care of her and his unborn child.

Now you are claiming that she'll change after her son but I am doubtful. She will always indulge in further competition with Abhira or in future other sister in laws and their kids because all she wants is the best for her and nobody should surpass her.

This is her basic nature. Insecurity, jealousy and playing victim card. People with these traits never remain happy in their lives despite of having everything and eventually spoils the lives of other family members too.

I'm not somebody who can delve deep into psychology , what I'm telling is very basic...

If there's a source of trouble, the trouble must be kept away if there's any chance of healing ..whether or not they heal depends on the problem & the person themselves . But distance , time and space helps in any situation..

Arohi tried to keep abhir away coz she didn't want akshu to come bk to birla house ..she didn't have to play any cards ..akshu herself didn't wanna come bk ever ..abhir was also sent bk by abhim after custody ..issue came when abhim decided to marry akshu , did arohi anyway object to it or try to ruin it ? May be if they continued the season she would but she did change for that duration ..

Yes ruhi had her great grandparents but they're nowhere equal to the parents..after arohi she was closest to abhimanyu & abhir and both were taken away by akshara so that added to her resentment ..they pampered her that doesn't mean they gave her a good upbringing..it only made her more unstable ..

yes she has rohit now but her underlying fear of everything thats dear to her will be taken away akshara and her clan , it still exists ..she wont warm up to abhir completely , bec abhira will be there to share him ..thats my guess , dunno what the writers plan ..however , I never blamed abhira for ruhis mistakes ..

For you ruhi is vile bec she acts against abhira..till the time abhir acts against abhira , he will he vile too , when he flips , he will be the best brother ...I don't judge characters that way , everyone is at the same level for me ..I'm not in support of ruhi or her actions , just trying to understand where she comes from ..yes it's her intrinsic nature , she feels insecure & jealous ..everyone does I'm various degrees..but we all know these issues will never be explored so jaane do

Originally posted by: theromanticcrap

Glad someone agrees. Ruhi might not show that she took the rejection hard because she wants to be seen as the good one—and she's not wrong for wanting that. However, deep down, she struggles with the need to be someone who always does the right thing and appears virtuous, even if it comes at the cost of suppressing her true feelings.

Ruhi wants to show that she is good because she craves acceptance and validation, especially from those around her. Having grown up with the guilt of indirectly causing her mother's death, even though she doesn’t fully know the truth, Ruhi feels a constant need to prove herself as worthy and virtuous. It's her way of compensating for the underlying shame she subconsciously carries.

However, her animosity toward Abhira stems from complex feelings of jealousy and insecurity. Ruhi has always wanted what Abhira seems to have—love, attention, or even opportunities Ruhi feels were denied to her. She struggles to reconcile her desire to be "good" with the resentment she harbors. This internal conflict makes her actions toward Abhira hypocritical, as she outwardly projects goodness but secretly resents her cousin.

And I think Goenkas are majorly responsible for who she is today. Upbringing matters alot in these cases. She was a child. Obviously she was going through a trauma losing her mother. But Akshara could've been a good motherly figure to her. But instead they threw her out instead of convincing Ruhi that Arohi's death was an accident. They did it before aswell when they send akshara away because of Arohi. Manish and Swarna are not good parental role models. They never were from Gen 2 actually.They are known to keep resentment and hatred towards so many characters in the past. And to pass it on the future generations.

Originally posted by: yum_immy

And I think Goenkas are majorly responsible for who she is today. Upbringing matters alot in these cases. She was a child. Obviously she was going through a trauma losing her mother. But Akshara could've been a good motherly figure to her. But instead they threw her out instead of convincing Ruhi that Arohi's death was an accident. They did it before aswell when they send akshara away because of Arohi. Manish and Swarna are not good parental role models. They never were from Gen 2 actually.They are known to keep resentment and hatred towards so many characters in the past. And to pass it on the future generations.

They made Kartik hate them for years, by not telling him that his mother died by suicide because of her mental illness, not because of Manish's EMA with Suwarna. For Swarnish hatred, resentment and emotional baggage is quite normal, bachon ka dil nahin dukhna chahiye after knowing truth.

Originally posted by: Krinya

I'm not somebody who can delve deep into psychology , what I'm telling is very basic...

If there's a source of trouble, the trouble must be kept away if there's any chance of healing ..whether or not they heal depends on the problem & the person themselves . But distance , time and space helps in any situation..

Arohi tried to keep abhir away coz she didn't want akshu to come bk to birla house ..she didn't have to play any cards ..akshu herself didn't wanna come bk ever ..abhir was also sent bk by abhim after custody ..issue came when abhim decided to marry akshu , did arohi anyway object to it or try to ruin it ? May be if they continued the season she would but she did change for that duration ..

Yes ruhi had her great grandparents but they're nowhere equal to the parents..after arohi she was closest to abhimanyu & abhir and both were taken away by akshara so that added to her resentment ..they pampered her that doesn't mean they gave her a good upbringing..it only made her more unstable ..

yes she has rohit now but her underlying fear of everything thats dear to her will be taken away akshara and her clan , it still exists ..she wont warm up to abhir completely , bec abhira will be there to share him ..thats my guess , dunno what the writers plan ..however , I never blamed abhira for ruhis mistakes ..

For you ruhi is vile bec she acts against abhira..till the time abhir acts against abhira , he will he vile too , when he flips , he will be the best brother ...I don't judge characters that way , everyone is at the same level for me ..I'm not in support of ruhi or her actions , just trying to understand where she comes from ..yes it's her intrinsic nature , she feels insecure & jealous ..everyone does I'm various degrees..but we all know these issues will never be explored so jaane do

Abhir toh theek hai, but when did Akshara take away Abheemanyu. In fact, she asked him to stay with Ruhi who needs him more. But usko toh bass mauka chahiye tha to jump into his ex's bed. Issi liye abandoned his supposed dil ka tukda and buddhi mom and bhaag gaya Akshara ke peeche. Why didn't he stay back and take care of his orphaned neice like he promised his dead brother? Not once did Akshara ask him to come with her. He was the one who chose to go. But yeh sahi hai, jo bhi ho, saara blame Akshara pe daal do.

Originally posted by: Krinya

It's so good to read meaningful discussions that too on the edt ..

You've put forth all the points ans ruhi has that unresolved anger & resentment which she's projecting on abhira ..

But my take is , why even try to mend it ? They're not the first siblings who are at each othera throats. They are not even real siblings ..expecting familial love from those who don't love you is stupidity..I don't say abhira should stop caring like if ruhi is dying she must let her , no..but the way she's doing it just add to her wooes ..they're thrown in the same space , in practical situations, either she should move out or ruhi ..but they won't do it..ruhi is just a plot device to create problems in abhiras life..since yrkkh doesn't have outright vamps & villains , they do it this way ..I mean they started doing it this way since last gen..

Arohi had a lot of resentment against akshu but what happened ? Akshu was indirectly involved in Neil's death..but still arohi let go of it & made peace with it later ....coz akshu left birlas ...arohi got the time and space to heal ..to mature ..arohi said as long as akshu is not close , it's all OK..so ruhi can also change in future ..

I believe she needs real love & nurturing .. ruhi is craving for the family & true unconditional love , more than abhira..only then can she heal .that unconditional love can also come from daksh , like in arohis case , it came from ruhi....ghar pe normal jethani devrani ke beech zindagi bhar comparison and competition khatam nai hota toh here we have step siblings with loads of baggage..it won't get resolved just with arohis death truth coming out

Thank you for finding my words impactful! I really enjoy diving deep into characters and unraveling their layers—it’s like my favorite pastime. Lol.

Your take highlights an important dynamic—expecting familial love from someone who doesn’t feel the same way can lead to unnecessary pain. Abhira’s care for Ruhi, despite Ruhi’s resentment, stems from her loyalty to family but only adds to her troubles when they’re forced to share space without boundaries or resolution.

The comparison to Aarohi and Akshara is apt. Aarohi only healed when Akshara left, giving her time to mature. Similarly, Ruhi might change if she experiences genuine love and nurturing. Daksh could play a pivotal role, offering Ruhi the stability to heal and grow, much like Aarohi found peace through Ruhi's love.

From personal experience as a single child, I understand how meaningful bonds with cousins can be. While Ruhi may not crave this connection with Abhira due to her bond with Abhir, Abhira likely desires it, having never experienced that sibling relationship.

What’s surprising is that even after 22 years with the Goenkas, Ruhi still feels unloved, reflecting their emotional incompetence. This neglect fuels her bitterness and hinders her bond with Abhira.

Sibling rivalry and competition, exaggerated in these narratives to create drama, won’t resolve with Aarohi’s death truth alone. It requires time, effort, and willingness from both sides to break the cycle of conflict.

Originally posted by: ShadowImbue

They made Kartik hate them for years, by not telling him that his mother died by suicide because of her mental illness, not because of Manish's EMA with Suwarna. For Swarnish hatred, resentment and emotional baggage is quite normal, bachon ka dil nahin dukhna chahiye after knowing truth.