KMTMG Discussions Thread #8 - Page 57

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Bold: ye baat to sach hai. Kuch to hai about Vandy.

Kuch toh hai lakin woh log hume nahin bataege phir bhi hum bolenge, kuch toh hai, kuch toh hai, kuch to hai

I understand your post. Thanks for seeing my view. Cast & crew are paid and not forced I understand. The creators must realise Cast & crew will have this show on job history. I Want them to be proud of their work. It appears to me actors are not approaching this show with attitude of paid work. Its with their awareness show will be on job history on their name. Can we be upset creators dont give them same response?

Please understand I mean these words below and not trying to be a smarta$$

Thank you for these words in quoted post. It finally makes sense to me to be detached from show. Main Reason to have calm mind interacting with show has been explained... its for personal well-being. I will visit this post regularly to remind myself lets have fun in our discussion

Originally posted by: flutterby

OK ji. I understood from tone of your posts, that of late you have been upset how show has deteriorated and how viewers' intellect is being mocked and insulted. It's just that I want all of you guys to not become upset over a fictional show, whatever they show, just watch keeping logic aside and/or ignore. The actors, crew are getting paid while producers are getting ready for their other shows. Why, we the viewers should destroy our mental peace over nothing?!

Ok 2nd attempt at post. Lets leave logic of legality on transfer & how captors can be free getting immovable property as demand

@Adiandsid - 1) Is it correct Babita & Ex have not discussed Ex greed & Taking nimmi hostage? - maybe tomorrow. 2) sure if we just apply basic sense not even logic to show. Ex 45 % ×2 = 90%. How does Rajiv 51% fit into plot? Has virat agreed to 45% but not the sorry or is he thinking about both?

Originally posted by: sugz

Tx for update. I understand nobody wants to listen to Ex. Why has 45% babita gave her not revealed. Yes there is more importance of the sorry but what papers are there to transfer 45% ... has virat agreed to 45% but not to sorry?

Surely this can go to court after they released as hostages to reverse 45%. If its cash then captors take it and disappear. Here we have Ex who will get legitimate ownership of immovable property & it wont be reversed. THIS IS AGAIN RUBBISH ILLOGICAL WRTING!

This is where I get mad they take us for fools😡

Originally posted by: sugz

Ok 2nd attempt at post. Lets leave logic of legality on transfer & how captors can be free getting immovable property as demand

@Adiandsid - 1) Is it correct Babita & Ex have not discussed Ex greed & Taking nimmi hostage? - maybe tomorrow. 2) sure if we just apply basic sense not even logic to show. Ex 45 % ×2 = 90%. How does Rajiv 51% fit into plot? Has virat agreed to 45% but not the sorry or is he thinking about both?

Babs and ex have not talked about taking Nimmi hostage. [Unless Babs is faking the concern.]

Ex hasn't yet put forth her (or what she says to be the kidnapper's) demands. So that's the extra she will get over what she will get from Babs. Virat hasn't agreed to both / anything yet.

Rajeev... think no one else knows about this 51% - dont know what exactly his plan is about it. Kill Nimmi and then claim? idk the effect it will have on ex's plan... or ex's plan will have on his.

Some of the most dedicated FD have stopped posting. The ones that continue to post loyally... now question logic of this plot. They more upset with Ex return to Ahuja house but using similarities points ive said is illogical.

Is there any point in really waiting for rescue & peak of this plot? I post about this but no one seems to respond... Actors must have taken script writing in acting school. Its up to them to speak up or accept this show is over.

Originally posted by: nilmi

The show’s tag on X is so quiet today... Good for Mukta....she’s losing the online hype as well. If they were really interested in a third angle, they could have hired a better actress and made her character a bit more positive and logical. This X track is just utter nonsense....

Originally posted by: sugz

Some of the most dedicated FD have stopped posting. The ones that continue to post loyally... now question logic of this plot. They more upset with Ex return to Ahuja house but using similarities points ive said is illogical.

Is there any point in really waiting for rescue & peak of this plot? I post about this but no one seems to respond... Actors must have taken script writing in acting school. Its up to them to speak up or accept this show is over.

They will go probably from the next ep or the one after that since VA will soon be together. It took this track for them to appreciate something is amiss... or likely they knew it too but stayed silent.

In isolation, I have so far liked the jungle part... a bit dragging but something I dont mind. Dont mind waiting for where are they going to take this - how they are going to sort this mess, if they will. If by any chance it will lead to a mu and separation it will be a for me.

Actors angle, which is a concern you have expressed quite a few times. Sure they speak up and change bits too... but on the overall plan, they cant have much say. The best they can do is do their part well / best they can... thats all. Sure they'll have better ideas on what has to happen or how they would take it... but its mostly worth the same as the hundred things we have discussed here.

For me watching RM before this has really helped in keeping my expectations quite low... and an experience that helped in other ways too - say, first few eps of that show I saw troubles... but 'hoped' it will go better... and slowly it became clear it never will. So when I saw the troubles here - mostly in terms of screenplay... knew it is following a similar path... and surely did. By ep 101-102 I knew there was no hope for the show (Rajeev not being arrested). Of course, it felt bad too... but its like...it is what it is. I'm watching this because of Sriti, so whenever there is a good scene of hers - like the recent ones - enjoy it... and that's about it.. wish there were more... but this is what we get for now at least... and not expecting frequency to be more either.. given how they write.

I'm struggling to respond to this post so its very unfinished & much is messy. This is because @Adiandsid post appears like truth we need to accept in this pure post- meaning its direct & not filtered considering if viewers are ready to accept it

Started watching show as it felt different to other serials. Part of it was boldness of villians & a mother you wouldn't think can do this. Part is chemistry that felt unique. Since watching show often the relationship of Amu/virat for adults hasnt developed healthy & mother babita vilness grows & is glorified by creators.

In terms of actors script feedback. I Understand your view & this may feel like denial but hear me out. We know its much of Sriti & Arjit fans support of show that keeps it going- loyal support different from most other shows. I'm suggesting Actors use this unique position to demand they accept their suggestions on writing/ writers. Bargain with contract renewal on writing. This post getting long and please see embarrassing part 2

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

They will go probably from the next ep or the one after that since VA will soon be together. It took this track for them to appreciate something is amiss... or likely they knew it too but stayed silent.

In isolation, I have so far liked the jungle part... a bit dragging but something I dont mind. Dont mind waiting for where are they going to take this - how they are going to sort this mess, if they will. If by any chance it will lead to a mu and separation it will be a for me.

Actors angle, which is a concern you have expressed quite a few times. Sure they speak up and change bits too... but on the overall plan, they cant have much say. The best they can do is do their part well / best they can... thats all. Sure they'll have better ideas on what has to happen or how they would take it... but its mostly worth the same as the hundred things we have discussed here.

For me watching RM before this has really helped in keeping my expectations quite low... and an experience that helped in other ways too - say, first few eps of that show I saw troubles... but 'hoped' it will go better... and slowly it became clear it never will. So when I saw the troubles here - mostly in terms of screenplay... knew it is following a similar path... and surely did. By ep 101-102 I knew there was no hope for the show (Rajeev not being arrested). Of course, it felt bad too... but its like...it is what it is. I'm watching this because of Sriti, so whenever there is a good scene of hers - like the recent ones - enjoy it... and that's about it.. wish there were more... but this is what we get for now at least... and not expecting frequency to be more either.. given how they write.

Part 2

Reason cancelling of show conflicting my views is because after watching show for some time. All actors have proved amazing talent where I want success & this show to reflect well on their work history. Watched few minutes of other serials some weeks. My family watches but I dont see much versitility & transformation from actors. I've posted here & enough from others is on SM on Sriti & Arjit. Lets look at other actors

Nimmis actor - Acted abuse track well & developed into a strong survivor.Dildar actor - switches between positive & negative role easily some dont notice. Harsh actor - there when needed taking any challenge & looks to have trained for new type of role. Hes more fit & they dress him more stylish on show.Jahan - Always energy & humour. Hemangi - developed being post divorce still a positive mother & showed after bomb her amazing monologue skills. Kishori - Real good villian portraying it with lot of talent. Problem in my view creators exhausted her vile plans making it unbearable.

Originally posted by: sugz

I'm struggling to respond to this post so its very unfinished & much is messy. This is because @Adiandsid post appears like truth we need to accept in this pure post- meaning its direct & not filtered considering if viewers are ready to accept it

Started watching show as it felt different to other serials. Part of it was boldness of villians & a mother you wouldn't think can do this. Part is chemistry that felt unique. Since watching show often the relationship of Amu/virat for adults hasnt developed healthy & mother babita vilness grows & is glorified by creators.

In terms of actors script feedback. I Understand your view & this may feel like denial but hear me out. We know its much of Sriti & Arjit fans support of show that keeps it going- loyal support different from most other shows. I'm suggesting Actors use this unique position to demand they accept their suggestions on writing/ writers. Bargain with contract renewal on writing. This post getting long and please see embarrassing part 2

Originally posted by: sugz

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In terms of actors script feedback. I Understand your view & this may feel like denial but hear me out. We know its much of Sriti & Arjit fans support of show that keeps it going- loyal support different from most other shows. I'm suggesting Actors use this unique position to demand they accept their suggestions on writing/ writers. Bargain with contract renewal on writing. This post getting long and please see embarrassing part 2

Bold: And I'm suggesting, beyond a certain point, they cant. [Sriti could ask for that questioning being called 'doosri aurat' scene... but overall plan likely remained the same.]

I dont know about the daily working in the set, or how things are written in the script and how it comes out on screen. Perhaps things are written well on the script in those 'what cant come out on screen' parts - like 'Amruta notices Virat's helplessness'. May be when Sriti reads it she can feel it and express it too and see that its a good part. How it ends up in the overall context she will notice only if she sees the ep / show / gets feedback from ones she trusts. If its negative, she may have a talk... and then beyond a certain point, she cant too.

[I've heard Abhi and Shabir was bashed up badly by fans after it was shown Abhi married Tanu in the beginning of 7 yr leap... the first episodes of it had a loving hug b/w the two too. It was only after the bashing that he asked for a change... and from something like 3rd or 4th ep into the leap, he started being indifferent to Tanu.]

That's a window of opportunity available to them - esp Sriti and Arjit. Will they use it or not depends on them. Had hoped Shabir wont be renewing his contract with RM... but he did continue. Leaving the show doesn't bring 'promising' outcomes, no matter how 'big' you are. Its often a controversial move.

Expanding on this from the previous post: [Sriti could ask for that questioning being called 'doosri aurat' scene... but overall plan likely remained the same.]

And who knows, how many improvisations the actors have brought in to make it look the way it is - better than what was written on the script?

But there is not much an actor can do if she is supposed to talk on a phone sitting on the lower deck of a yacht and what she speaks is supposed to be heard on the upper deck - loud and clear as if she is using a loudspeaker. Even if Sriti notices it doesn't make sense, she will also know its too late to ask for a change in plans ... so just go ahead with it.