KMTMG Discussions Thread #7 - Page 128

This triggered sooo many thoughts some of which Ive said & will briefly repeat. Amu is a bit naive not having many relationships. We mentioned if it were Amu divorced how would Virat feel & realised she wouldn't take his rubbish.

There is some point to Amu trying in this marriage. What comes after this if Amu divorced? An arranged marriage where love may or may not happen. In Amu next marriage- will she stay with in laws? Amu maybe Safe but only see Bhavani 1 or 2 times a month... how will they feel about her working. What am I saying? Yes Amu faces danger with virat but she can still be close to bhavani & help her business. Virat ok with her working

Is it because of love that she forgets what he had done - The creators show it as love but its also pity to rescue virat from babita manipulation. There is a bit of practicality in Amu brain too. Amu may understand not all husbands would help like Virat did on Bhavani divorce. There were misunderstandings diring that time but he took more interest than an average Jamai or boyfriend. Virat is also easy to adaptable to Amu beleifs & observations as virat hasn't observed many religious events in his house. What do I mean? If Amu married in another punjabi or gujrati family. Will Amu be prepared to leave her Marathi customs? Virat accepts it.

There is a price to pay for above benefits. Amu will remain in danger - Babita wont stop. Amu wont have peace in life... how can she trust virat is ever/ truly free from Babita manipulation & he wont go back to blind worship of babita?

Originally posted by: Afrinaparvin

Yesterday I read the new chapter of a story in my reading list where I found below bold lines:

" Hearing her mother's words, tears rolled down from Stephina's cheeks. She knew she couldn't stop loving Herbert inspite of every wrong things he had done with her. Maybe this is how love is. It stops you from thinking logically. You just have to listen your heart and see where it takes you."

I don't know why but reading above lines I imagined Amruta and Virat there. Amruta's changing behaviour, her reaction after Virat left saying he will share what he feels, her all time ignore his negative sides and appreciate his positive sides. Is it because of love that she forgets what he had done with her in pasts? Does love overpower her brain and mind way too much? What do you think??

That sounds like a twisted take on Ammu. May be its there on the subconscious level, but not on the conscious one.

Originally posted by: Afrinaparvin

Red: My reaction after reading this

Bold: So which I learn that Virat will rescue Amruta but Nimrit will be stuck with villain gang. So maybe their plan is to frame Amruta about Nimrit's kidnap though I just assume it. Maybe like mela time, now also evidence will be against Amruta but this time most probably Virat will believe Amruta and maybe here he will connect the dots and will be certain that his mother is behind all these plan. And if they will not frame Amruta for kidnapping matter then high chance is they will directly frame Babita. Now seem like separation will not happen between AmVira, guessed from yesterday episode because that good bye between them didn't look like last good bye. And high chance is this time Virat will leave Ahuja house and will stay at Jahan's place where he will give test examination taken by Vandana and Bhavani especially Vandana. Because first the trp is not good,time change and now if they will show separation, Virat's trust to his family, aggressive behaviour with Amruta, can't work good at all. Now a days what we think, happen the opposite. So Virat will do blunder with Amruta, will not happen. This time he will be in Amruta's side and I hope so.

I also don’t want Virat’s character to be ruined anymore. He is still not as emotionally attached to Amu as Amu is to him. Amu is more concerned and emotionally connected to him. He still hasn’t realized her importance in his life. He is not yet in that typical ITV 'saasein ruk jayengi' type of love. He will realize it after Amu’s kidnapping and finding her in a bad state. Only then will he genuinely repent for his past mistakes..... I don’t care if they part ways for some time. I hope this time we can get rid of Rajeev and Babs for a while. I don't think the writers will sideline the clown now, as she is the main, brainy villain...

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Took an ss too and could read some 80-90% of what was written (in the last para)... Other than confusing English and bad grammar, which made me wonder 'cant they write in Hinglish?', couldn't understand much of what is going on. Seems like Nimmi tries to shout but someone (ex) covers her mouth. There is Ammu coming in somewhere too. Virat perhaps enters at the end and they are asking the director / whoever to consider if ex should be shown 'shocked'.

Other than the actors, there is nothing to appreciate in this serial... the logic, plot, and scripts are all nonsense

Originally posted by: sugz

Yes its me in defense of my Vandy again. I agree already while you stare at this screen my defense is getting annoyed. There has been abit of critism of Vandy. I agree our expectations were high & its only natural to have more attention on Vandy being new character. Aaji vibes I respect your opinion... Can it be worse than Babita or bebe or poem vibes which are constant irritation on screen?

Whilst we not sure if vandy is a villian or lengths she will go for Amu. Humble request is not lose sight in worsening of villians behavior & depictions lowering morals shown. What am I saying? Today for example we comment on vandy but didn't immediately see babita psycho behaviour in hug virat after chandelier when she knew the plan. We picked it up but after critism of Vandy. Morality we dont discuss in virat trying to get in hospital but we need to question this bias to villians again giving them upper hand. Virat cant get in hospital but Rajiv can easily move in & out as prisoner proven to endanger women.

Ok candy is too sweet . Hope we dont aim too much critism at vandy having high expectations... losing sight in worsening morals of real villians yet too harsh to a maybe vilian like Vandy with some moral compass

She didn't know that her son was targeted. All she knows is that Pri is helping her get rid of Ammu. Honestly, I might sound crazy but mujhe lagta hai that BA will be whitewashed through Ammu. Idk why but aisa kuch laaga when she is forcing V to accept whatever happened she is your Mom and helping them reconnect. But will BA open her eyes, that Ammu doesn't want to take her son away but her stupidity is, Rab Jaane?

I have no problem with Vandy being against V, I have a problem if they turn her like Aaji. See, Aaji's entry should've helped Bhavani as she was sophisticated even though old-fashioned. Someone like her would've supported that 50+ (I think Bhavani is in the show), to move on and start fresh but aisa nahin hua. Ulta, cursed her poti and told Bhavani you didn't take care of your hubby Here, Vandy came, she is against the zabardasti, so naturally, she should confront V to marry her daughter urf niece properly. She compares to Bhavani has just arrived so before judging as Aaji did before (coolie, etc), she should learn to know V and then make some choices and not just based on what Bhavani told her. I hope you get it. For me, the issue lies in the writing, always the writing.

Originally posted by: Afrinaparvin

Underline Italian: Same. I like Virat character only because of Arjit

Bold: Sorry dear but can't agree with it. For me Arjit's best role is Azaan Akhtar Mirzafrom Bahu Begum( this serial is something else for me, his character was so powerful, the house was so expensive, dresses were so expensive, swimming pool was my favourite one too, His bonding with his mom{his mom was Simone Singh who played Shakshi Goenka in Ek Hasina Thi}, his nok jhok friendship with his childhood bff Noor, His nok jhok love story with Shayra, the triangle love story between Noor-Azaan-Shayra[some similarities with Kuch Kuch Hota Hai], all these were outstanding, but unfortunately covid's arrival, they forcefully shut down the serial without giving closure and many of we fans of that serial still hope for season 2 as it deserves to come back with season 2 because after Azaan and Shayra's nikah happened,many circumstances happen and at one point it was proved that Shayra is death though her face was not shown and Azaan blamed Noor for Shayra's death as she loves Azaan too much even more than Shayra so she killed her out of jealousy but then their mu cleared and Azaan slowly fall for Noor and their nikah too happened but lastly Shayra come back in Akhtar mansion and then show goes off air with incompleteness) , then Purab ( especially for my RaBul/ ArNal reason), then Shambu from Nath serial, then Farishta from Naagin 5&6, then Vivan from Kaleerein and then I will say VSA.

Red: All of us watching this useless serial only for leads and that's why MD with her hard working team take advantage of them and showing us rubbish as they know even if we complain we will see

Acha, I was talking about me for the "best role", only saw him in 3 shows so my choice is V is his best. Great, if he did better elsewhere

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Oh.. so it was for defending Candy.

About the scene - I didn't read much into it either. Other than, he danced with Jahan so that they can have Vandy say that. Go a bit deeper into the character... and perhaps we can say Virat would want to dance with Ammu... but guess she wasn't dancing yet. So he went to the next safest person - Jahan. Don't know if Harsh was dancing, he could've gone to him too.

Regarding the criticisms... they will come about. And most of the time it will be about how the writers choose to have that character behave. When Aaji was introduced, she was quite direct too... and @flutterby liked that part too cause she was having a go at the villains when Ammu and co weren't. Its a similar thing they are going for here too. But they didn't do anything good with Aaji in the end... made her quite lame.

I find both Jahan and Vandy taking extreme views... and I find their arguments irritating now, because of the repetition... is it now 6 scenes already? There is some hope for me since Bhavani hasn't spoken yet... and I hope when she speaks it will be sensible.

Bhavani is weirdly silent... I think it’s because she still has a soft corner for Virat. She’s the one who called Vandy. I believe she knows that, due to her bond with Virat, she can't hurt him directly, so she called Vandy to execute her plan to separate them...

I don’t like Vandy anymore... she is more irritating to me than Aji nowadays. I wish there was someone who could convince Amu to focus on her dreams and help her sort out her married life...Lets see..still too early to judge her..

Amu is 1 of characters you preferred. I didnt mean to offend you. Maybe these observations of mine are not there on any level conscience or subconscious for Amu. Amu doesn't need to be married but if she does want a marriage. These are some of new challenges Amu will have to face.

Take Gautum. Look at how he listened to mother when she insisted to break engagement. I'm sure Amu sees all these weak men coming for engagement.

Maybe my twisted take is how I explain Amu change to myslef because it frustrates me. Yes I do have emotional reaction for 5-10 min personally but always reflect taking decisions more head strong & less with emotions ... I mean Amu has completely changed. Personally that fierce look in promo ( of Amu doing puja) before exposure is last I understood old Amu. Dont understand Amu character after

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

That sounds like a twisted take on Ammu. May be its there on the subconscious level, but not on the conscious one.

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

[...] I find both Jahan and Vandy taking extreme views... and I find their arguments irritating now, because of the repetition... is it now 6 scenes already? There is some hope for me since Bhavani hasn't spoken yet... and I hope when she speaks it will be sensible.

You know, I thought of Aai this morning, she is the only character who is still (kahin na kahin) alive, no character assassination for her yet. Don't you guys think?

Compared to the others, they can do something beautiful with her and I love that she isn't willing to give her daughter to V and be mad at him, while her sisters (J& V) are catfighting.

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Blue: I liked it too - but then would've been better if he didn't look at Vandy and said it too. That reduced the impact of the scene for me.

Red: Was wondering why I mentioned the Telugu movie in the earlier post and turns out you connected the dot for me by this. The hero there chases and lies (not in a bad way of course) until her No becomes a Yes. Its good that Bhavani Aai matters to him (and I think you deliberately put the word 'Aai' in there to stress the importance)... so it is very important that he does have a good talk / apology with her. Yeah he has wronged Ammu, but he has also wronged Bhavani and Bhavani's daughter - and that's important too.

It shouldn't feel like 'I can talk my way out of it / can patao my saasu ma'. It does feel like he hasn't felt the real impact of what he has done in the mela / how bad he actually was there.

It wasn't just Ammu who was betrayed in the mela eps. Bhavani was betrayed too.

Exactly! Thanks for understanding my point