Posted: 1 years ago
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This post is simply to invite opinions and thoughts on this whole alpha male debate and compare him to a man that is emotionally weak. The idea is not to discuss the film Kabir Singh or its successor Animal but just to take the portrayal of the male lead from there and contrast it to the male lead of this show, who seems to self-flagellate in an emotional sense.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Pleaseeeeee he’s not like kabir Singh at all .. if anything Yuvraj was like kabir Singh or animal

Posted: 1 years ago
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Bro, have you even watched Kabir Singh?

Posted: 1 years ago
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Oh no .. I am not saying Armaan is anything like Kabir Singh ..he most certainly is not ..just wanted to talk of different portrayals of male leads in the media …Armaan is as different from Kabir as cheese from chalk !

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Posted: 1 years ago
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I hate the Animal/Kabir type potrayal. As soon as I heard reviews I decided not to watch that trash. Have already seen enough of that type of alpha male and its absolutely cringe.

I prefer to see vulnerable men.

But yrkkh has taken it to an extreme and given us a ML who is enjoying self victimization, and has this whole masochistic attitude of - I have to kill my own happiness and sacrifice everything all the time to get validation. That used to be ITV bahu type thing. And honestly once in a while that type of selflessness and sacrifice, altruism is great. Everyone likes seeing that in a cruel, cut throat world. It fills us with warmth and hope. But when someone just lives in guilt 24x7 and takes on zimmedari of things that he has no business doing in a mindless way then it becomes problematic.

Armaan is definitely way more watchable than a Kabir Singh type guy.

But too much vulnerability also kills the character.

In recent memory another vulnerable ML was Ram Kapoor of balh. But the makers messed him also up too much.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharadrocks

Oh no .. I am not saying Armaan is anything like Kabir Singh ..he most certainly is not ..just wanted to talk of different portrayals of male leads in the media …Armaan is as different from Kabir as cheese from chalk !


if we play antonyms.. or vilom ( opposite)



Kabir Singh ka answer would be Armaan

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharadrocks

Oh no .. I am not saying Armaan is anything like Kabir Singh ..he most certainly is not ..just wanted to talk of different portrayals of male leads in the media …Armaan is as different from Kabir as cheese from chalk !


Ohh... nah Ar is a pendulum swinger but not an Animal for suresmiley22 Gawd, I watched the movie and I am just glad I never dated such kind of red flags. But I would never call Ar a green flag either. I don't like people who are disloyal, whether to family, friends, love.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Armaan while handling 2 women in his life.

https://youtu.be/HHJCLALiq7M?si=mSZPzydqSvYg7yL2

Armaan after sacrificing everything smiley36

https://youtu.be/AdY_KpBmi6k?si=mypKj7IM8sE5lCYz

Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pinecone

I hate the Animal/Kabir type potrayal. As soon as I heard reviews I decided not to watch that trash. Have already seen enough of that type of alpha male and its absolutely cringe.

I prefer to see vulnerable men.

But yrkkh has taken it to an extreme and given us a ML who is enjoying self victimization, and has this whole masochistic attitude of - I have to kill my own happiness and sacrifice everything all the time to get validation. That used to be ITV bahu type thing. And honestly once in a while that type of selflessness and sacrifice, altruism is great. Everyone likes seeing that in a cruel, cut throat world. It fills us with warmth and hope. But when someone just lives in guilt 24x7 and takes on zimmedari of things that he has no business doing in a mindless way then it becomes problematic.

Armaan is definitely way more watchable than a Kabir Singh type guy.

But too much vulnerability also kills the character.

In recent memory another vulnerable ML was Ram Kapoor of balh. But the makers messed him also up too much.

yes :.emotional vulnerability over toxic masculinity any day but we need everything in moderation .:Armaan needs to wisen up and realise that guilt is that chink in his armour that everyone uses to manipulate him. Abhira is literally the only human who’s actually told him not to nurture guilt and that people do what they choose to do, he cannot take responsibility for everything. This is particularly true in Ruhi’s case. She complicated the situation by her kneejerk response to his not taking her calls and went ahead with another proposal. Sadly it turned out to be his brother and Armaan flat out told her he would not choose her over his family’s happiness. Ideally he should have stopped there and not asked her to marry Rohit. However the final call was hers to make and she made it. His silly vow of celibacy had no bearing on the situation. Yes, he should have told Rohit and if anyone, he ought to be feeling guilty towards him for that. Even then, he cannot take responsibiltiy for Rohit running away for whatever reason. What happened thereafter was fate. A high EQ in a man is a good thing but not so high that he starts thinking of himself as the saviour of all or the root cause of all problems. Both situations are equally problematic. In this case, Abhira is bearing the brunt of his misguided guilt. So yes, give us emotionally vulnerable men but let them not be mandir ki ghanti that everyone can bajaogy as they walk past !
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Posted: 1 years ago
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Well written. Especially the last part about ghanti. Lol. So true.

I wish Abhira will be continue to reinforce the thing of how he cant water guilt ka paudha and how he also deserves love, happiness and when he gets it he should embrace it instead of questioning it or walking away fron it.

I love how Abhira is written- especially her dialogues.

But more than Abhira continuing to impart her gyaan, it would be nice if Armaan dwells on it a bit instead of brushing it away. She's giving him pearls of wisdom and he does not even realize how poignant it is. He doesn't even have a brief monologue to think ki "aisa pehle kabhi kisine nahi kaha ki he should stop feeling guilty or taking zimmedari and just let life happen". That recognition of what Abhira tells him as being the liberating voice of reason he's actually craved to hear- thats not happening.

Its like he is so used to feeling guilty and blaming himself and his saviour complex that he cant seem to adequately appreciate someone that is his friend/companion without expecting any saving or handholding, and who doesn't hold him accountable for what happens in life. Infact he seems to be feeling guilty even about how she doesn't keep on reminding him of losing her mother due to him etc.

He needs therapy.

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