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Thanks for clarifying. In my opinion, Surya is neither directly nor indirectly at fault with respect to Agastya ka death. This is similar to the movie Tum Bin if anyone has seen this movie.

Navya cut off the brakes for her own baseless revenge and the goons tried to kill Agastya believing it to be Surya. The trigger was pulled by Surya ka enemy and Surya was not even aware of this. It was written in Agastya ka destiny to die when he did. Agar Surya ke enemy nai hote, the brake fail could have done it.

He should not have had the guilt ka burden and be forced to marry Imlie. Uski full life barbaad ho gayi. Tayi amma is unhappy, his foster mother and sister is unhappy, his wife is unhappy, his ex gf is unhappy. He himself is unhappy. Kya achieve hua Dadi ko yeh sab karke.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Where did Surya force Imlie to marry him? He was manipulated to marry Imlie. Yeh sab Dadi ka kia hai. Surya is not at fault in this.

Also, Imlie has been questioning him from the get go, as if he is pretty happy about the marriage. She had to be shown the mirror that he is unhappy too. Still he is trying to keep his promises and not make things difficult for her. Whereas she is causing issues pe issues for him. He could have actually led a pretty decent life with Anjali had Dadi not forced him to marry Imlie. He was abandoned as a child and raised showing the ehsaan that was done. He is probably always walking on eggshells making sure the family doesnt remind him of their favors.

Even if she wasn’t married to Surya, she had nothing else to do except live with Agastya ke memories which she is doing even now. Imlie did not care about being called Agastya ki wife in the Binni track so I will not take her seriously now.

Surya actually lost his love due to this marriage. He can see Anjali in front of his eyes but can’t be with her. Like I said in my post today, just coz we saw the love story of Agastya Imlie and the writers did not show us Surya Anjali love story doesnt make his pain any less than hers.

All of us will sit and abuse Surya even if tries to be normal with Anjali or remembers his love but are ok when Imlie remembers Agastya. Why the partiality?

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I am not questioning his love..

Infact I did say in my post towards the end, ki the flashback did show that he was actually invested in his past relationship, Contrary to our popular belief till now..

All I said was, how could he ask ki Imlie ne aakhir kya hi sacrifice Kiya hai, when he himself knows, that by getting married to him, again via dadi's manipulation, Imlie too has made a huge sacrifice.. and let go of the freedom that came earlier, without being shacked to this house and him in this situation now.. Also the Chaudharys were good to her towards the end, so in a way, she sacrificed that family's love too..

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Where did Surya force Imlie to marry him? He was manipulated to marry Imlie. Yeh sab Dadi ka kia hai. Surya is not at fault in this.

Also, Imlie has been questioning him from the get go, as if he is pretty happy about the marriage. She had to be shown the mirror that he is unhappy too. Still he is trying to keep his promises and not make things difficult for her. Whereas she is causing issues pe issues for him. He could have actually led a pretty decent life with Anjali had Dadi not forced him to marry Imlie. He was abandoned as a child and raised showing the ehsaan that was done. He is probably always walking on eggshells making sure the family doesnt remind him of their favors.

Even if she wasn’t married to Surya, she had nothing else to do except live with Agastya ke memories which she is doing even now. Imlie did not care about being called Agastya ki wife in the Binni track so I will not take her seriously now.

Surya actually lost his love due to this marriage. He can see Anjali in front of his eyes but can’t be with her. Like I said in my post today, just coz we saw the love story of Agastya Imlie and the writers did not show us Surya Anjali love story doesnt make his pain any less than hers.

All of us will sit and abuse Surya even if tries to be normal with Anjali or remembers his love but are ok when Imlie remembers Agastya. Why the partiality?

We’re obviously more biased because we’ve seen Imlie’s journey of love, pain and loss this entire time.

From our perspective, this is the first thing Surya has actually sacrificed or lost anything. And even then, it’s undoable to a certain degree. If tomorrow him and Imlie divorce, then he can go back to Anjali. She’d accept him back with open arm, the girl is very obviously going to try and get and him either ways.

Imlie didn’t care that the society or the Chaudhary’s didn’t accept her as Agastya’s widow. But the difference is that deep down she knew what reality was, we also saw their real wedding as an audience.

Even if she’s in denial right now, Imlie knows the importance of marriage and she aware that right now she’s Surya’s wife. Even if they part ways, she will be his ex-wife and no longer just Agastya’s widow. Dadi made her take an oath for the sake of her health so Imlie herself couldn’t walk away from this marriage.

Surya was ready to walk away from his promise until he saw Agastya’s video. He could’ve let Imlie continue her life as a widow. He chose to come back and get married to her because somewhere he thought he could take on the responsibility of her future happiness. He felt guilty after seeing his brother’s message, even though it wasn’t his fault.

Imlie has nothing more to gain here if they separate, whereas Surya does. She already lost the love of her life and he’ll never come back, she only has his memories. She’s reminiscing about a dead person whereas Surya can still talk to the one he loves.

Originally posted by: LKashish

Bold 1: Same, although I understood where he was coming from, I couldn’t feel bad for him. He kind of deserved it a bit, like Imlie straight up took a bullet for him because he couldn’t believe her during the Raghu track. Forget trusting her, he didn’t even use his police skills to see if she was telling the truth.

Red: He really could’ve let her leave with the Chaudhary’s to live as Agastya’s widow for the rest of her life. All he had to do is not show up at the mandir when his family objected. Imlie still would’ve been able to complete her education and he could’ve had his happily ever after with Anjali. He was going to break his promise to Dadi either way until he saw the Agastya’s video.

Bold 2: 😂

Surya is a terrible cop for sure but Imlie hid the truth from him in the start. She broke the law to save Chutki. There was no way he would trust Imlie over his sister/jeeja when he had reasons to be suspicious of her. The circumstances were not in favor.

He should not have come to marry Imlie after seeing the video from Agastya. Uski galti nai thi that Agastya died. Why should he be tied up with a person who will never love him.

The same way Imlie should have tried to explain Dadi better. Why is Imlie ki majboori to marry Surya acceptable but not his majbori? Is this due to bad writing that people are not able to sympathize with Surya even after clearly showing his frustration. He even said phasi lagwalo mujhe which shows what a miserable life he is leading at this moment. The Chaudhary fam wanted to palla jhado from Imlie because they forced her to marry Surya and left from there almost immediately. They didn't see how she was so unhappy with the marriage. Bill sab Surya pe kyu phat raha hai as if usko mazze aa rahe hai?

Surya is responsible for his actions but not those of Imlie’s or Dadi’s. They need to take accountability for their own actions. He is trying his best to keep his promises in the marriage. I am extremely happy they showed him in love with Anjali which makes his sacrifice meaningful. Hope he prioritizes his marriage and responsibilities over his love, dreams.

Originally posted by: LKashish

What songs do y’all want to see?

If we keep the retro theme maybe:

•Rang Barse from Silsila (ironic)

•Jogi Ji Dheere Dheere from Nadiya Ke Paar

•Holi Ke Din from Sholay

If they go modern, maybe Madhubala?

Love Holi Ke Din.

There is also Soni Soni from Mohabbatein. It will give SKR to be SRK again!

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Thanks for clarifying. In my opinion, Surya is neither directly nor indirectly at fault with respect to Agastya ka death. This is similar to the movie Tum Bin if anyone has seen this movie.

Navya cut off the brakes for her own baseless revenge and the goons tried to kill Agastya believing it to be Surya. The trigger was pulled by Surya ka enemy and Surya was not even aware of this. It was written in Agastya ka destiny to die when he did. Agar Surya ke enemy nai hote, the brake fail could have done it.

He should not have had the guilt ka burden and be forced to marry Imlie. Uski full life barbaad ho gayi. Tayi amma is unhappy, his foster mother and sister is unhappy, his wife is unhappy, his ex gf is unhappy. He himself is unhappy. Kya achieve hua Dadi ko yeh sab karke.

The actress for Dadi literally joked about this in one of her last interview segments before the Chaudhary’s exit.

Dadi really put Imlie and Surya in such an unhappy situation. They could’ve let Imlie stay with them as she would’ve been much happier with Agastya’s memories than married to someone new, especially Surya. She would’ve still been able to complete her education and become a journalist, surrounded by people she actually loves and cares for, including her bestfriend, Sonali.

In a way and it’s mean to say, but Agastya would still be alive if it weren’t for Dadi. She was under so much sadma after the Kairi-Dhanraj reveal that she ruined Agastya and Imlie’s life. She could’ve trusted Imlie and given the family a few days to process everything but instead she threw herself down the stairs and pushed Agastya to marry someone else.

At the same time, Vishwa is also indirectly responsible as well since he’s the one that came and added fire to oil when the truth came out. He was such a bad cop that he couldn’t even tell that his mother was a serial killer.

It’s just one unfortunate thing after the other that lead to Agastya’s death, Surya really shouldn’t blame himself. I hope after the initial anger, that Imlie helps him work through that guilt.

Originally posted by: LKashish

We’re obviously more biased because we’ve seen Imlie’s journey of love, pain and loss this entire time.

From our perspective, this is the first thing Surya has actually sacrificed or lost anything. And even then, it’s undoable to a certain degree. If tomorrow him and Imlie divorce, then he can go back to Anjali. She’d accept him back with open arm, the girl is very obviously going to try and get and him either ways. So just coz Imlie does not have Agastya to go back to it is Surya ka fault? Bhagwan ne cheen lia Imlie se Agastya ko. This 1 yr marriage was Imlie ka condition not Surya ka. He is going to not let her go because he wants to fulfill his promise. If Surya believed he would win Anjali back he wouldn't break it off this way, he would tell her the truth and ask her to wait for a year.

Imlie didn’t care that the society or the Chaudhary’s didn’t accept her as Agastya’s widow. But the difference is that deep down she knew what reality was, we also saw their real wedding as an audience.

Even if she’s in denial right now, Imlie knows the importance of marriage and she aware that right now she’s Surya’s wife. Even if they part ways, she will be his ex-wife and no longer just Agastya’s widow. Dadi made her take an oath for the sake of her health so Imlie herself couldn’t walk away from this marriage. So? Her majboori is fine but Surya ki majboori isnt?

Surya was ready to walk away from his promise until he saw Agastya’s video. He could’ve let Imlie continue her life as a widow. He chose to come back and get married to her because somewhere he thought he could take on the responsibility of her future happiness. He felt guilty after seeing his brother’s message, even though it wasn’t his fault. He wasn’t willing to walk away from the promise just because he felt like it. His Tayi and family manipulated him because he was an abandoned child who they raised. He is so majboor from that side too. Still he realized he needed to step up. If Imlie can agree to marry Surya for Dadi ka health, Surya can back down from the marriage on Tayi ka insistence too.

Imlie has nothing more to gain here if they separate, whereas Surya does. She already lost the love of her life and he’ll never come back, she only has his memories. She’s reminiscing about a dead person whereas Surya can still talk to the one he loves.

If Surya has so much to gain, shouldn't he be the one to initiate the separation?

Is it enough to talk to the person you love if you cant get them back in life? With a dead partner or an ex-partner, there is pain of separation. Ofc the death situation may be worse but again, blaming Surya entirely feels wrong. He is not happy about this marriage right now but he is still trying. We can see him make efforts to ensure Imlie is comfortable and even at the cost of hurting his family. Galat sirf Imlie ke saath nahi hua hai, Surya ke saath bhi hua hai. It would be good if that gets acknowledged.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

If Surya has so much to gain, shouldn't he be the one to initiate the separation?

Is it enough to talk to the person you love if you cant get them back in life? With a dead partner or an ex-partner, there is pain of separation. Ofc the death situation may be worse but again, blaming Surya entirely feels wrong. He is not happy about this marriage right now but he is still trying. We can see him make efforts to ensure Imlie is comfortable and even at the cost of hurting his family. Galat sirf Imlie ke saath nahi hua hai, Surya ke saath bhi hua hai. It would be good if that gets acknowledged.

I think at the moment, I’m able to acknowledge that his pain is valid. But I’m still not able to feel bad for him.

Maybe it’s because of the way they wrote him or how I’m used to August Babu’s emotional side. Agastya didn’t really have a person to seek comfort in until Imlie. But when he was alone, we were able to experience these moments where he would let his tears of frustrations flow. As an audience, it made us connect to him more, we were able to empathize with him. Sai was also something else during those scenes.

Surya so far seems to be the kind to suppress his emotions until they build up, only for them to explode out on a rare blue moon when he’s had enough. I wish we got more scenes of him struggling with things on his own.

My two favourite scenes of his are actually the ones where we see him express himself in the rawest way possible: the outburst in the hut and today’s scene where he snapped at Imlie. It’s for one an amazing portrayal of Sai’s acting skill but also something that helps us understand as an audience that Surya isn’t an empty gol gappa but a samosa with feelings.

Both of Surya’s more intense emotional scenes are with Imlie, for obvious reasons. I’m lowkey looking forward to the day, if he ever does, where he actually cries in front of her. There’s something so vulnerable about a man allowing himself to cry, especially in families where they aren’t allowed to show themselves as “weak”

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Where did Surya force Imlie to marry him? He was manipulated to marry Imlie. Yeh sab Dadi ka kia hai. Surya is not at fault in this.

Also, Imlie has been questioning him from the get go, as if he is pretty happy about the marriage. She had to be shown the mirror that he is unhappy too. Still he is trying to keep his promises and not make things difficult for her. Whereas she is causing issues pe issues for him. He could have actually led a pretty decent life with Anjali had Dadi not forced him to marry Imlie. He was abandoned as a child and raised showing the ehsaan that was done. He is probably always walking on eggshells making sure the family doesnt remind him of their favors.

Even if she wasn’t married to Surya, she had nothing else to do except live with Agastya ke memories which she is doing even now. Imlie did not care about being called Agastya ki wife in the Binni track so I will not take her seriously now.

Surya actually lost his love due to this marriage. He can see Anjali in front of his eyes but can’t be with her. Like I said in my post today, just coz we saw the love story of Agastya Imlie and the writers did not show us Surya Anjali love story doesnt make his pain any less than hers.

All of us will sit and abuse Surya even if tries to be normal with Anjali or remembers his love but are ok when Imlie remembers Agastya. Why the partiality?

Totally agree 100%. Surya did not force Imlie to marry him. He was also manipulated first by Dadi and later by the guilt and he married Imlie. Imlie asked Surya not to touch him and he is respectful of that. Imlie took the decision to be with him only for a year and he agreed to that. Did Imlie ever ask Surya what is his feelings ? What does he want out of life ? Arey she is not even ready to compromise for a year and stay in the house. Ulta she is ready to fight with everyone in the family and wants to change their thinking or show that they are wrong. Kyun bhai ? You are not going to stay here for more than a year according to you so why are you bothered.

I get that Imlie is hurt - Yes it was tragic that she lost Agastya who she loved so dearly but she was ready to be a servant in that house. Here Surya's house main she has been accepted as bahu of the house even if they have started off on wrong foot but she hardly does any thing towards the family. She is unhappy I get that but she is venting out her frustration on Surya who has also lost a lot by agreeing to this marriage.

Whether Surya loved Anjali deeply or not he did have a relationship which he broke off now as he is married. He did not lead Anjali on but respectfully told her that he can't be with her together. He knows that every day he is lying to his family and now he will probably have the guilt of breaking up with Anjali - Why is Surya's sacrifice any lesser than Imlie's ? In spite of all this Surya is doing his level best to keep peace at house and also standing by Imlie so that she finishes her education.

Today Imlie was wrong in fighting for every single thing and I am glad Surya had this outburst. Surya is not living his life happily after marriage in case Imlie did not see that. Bechara did not even sleep the night before and was sleeping in sitting position only.

Originally posted by: Gags05

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I am not questioning his love..

Infact I did say in my post towards the end, ki the flashback did show that he was actually invested in his past relationship, Contrary to our popular belief till now..

All I said was, how could he ask ki Imlie ne aakhir kya hi sacrifice Kiya hai, when he himself knows, that by getting married to him, again via dadi's manipulation, Imlie too has made a huge sacrifice.. and let go of the freedom that came earlier, without being shacked to this house and him in this situation now.. Also the Chaudharys were good to her towards the end, so in a way, she sacrificed that family's love too..

Imlie can keep blaming him and trying to create issues for him but he should not question her at all? She not once blamed Dadi for the emotional manipulation but kept blaming Surya for coming to the temple.

She didn’t want to put the sindoor, he made the fake reports, was ok to cause his own accident, was going to talk to his family before Imlie agreed. Her not putting the sindoor would not change the fact that she was married to him and he didn’t force the marriage on her. He ensured he explained the suhaag raat issue to his family, did the form submission on time too. Why cant he expect Imlie to not create a scene before his family specially when she is going to live with them for just one year.

She knows how Surya feels about the family and that he was abandoned and adopted by them so there is a lot of issues there too. Anjali did talk about his trauma. Kya galat hai if Surya expects her to not get off to fighting all the time. He even explained to her last time that Tayi had issues in the past etc. Imlie forgave Chaudhary for killing her sister but cant let go off minor issues in a new house when actually nothing untoward happened today (I didnt mind her arguing with the family yesterday).

Did Surya ask her to do that sacrifice and marry him? He isn’t gloating about Imlie being his wife when Anjali would have been more suited to him. He is still trying to make things easy and smooth for her, least she can di is not stir the pot.