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Posted: 1 years ago

Madhubala Venus Queen Of Bollywood - 14 February 2018 Download | Madhubala Venus Queen Of Bollywood - 14 February 2018 Movie Songs Download

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Movie : Raj Hath (1956)

Song : Yeh Wada Karo

Singers : Lata Mangeshkar Mukesh

Lyricist : Shailendra

Directed : Sohrab Modi

Produced : Sohrab Modi

Music : Jaikishan Dayabhai Panchal Shankarsingh Raghuwanshi

Starring : Madhubala, Pradeep Kumar,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibuN4lFQt_Q

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SINGER : LATA

LYRICS : SHAKEEL BADAYUNI

MUSIC : NAUSHAD

MOVIE : AMAR (1954)


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Posted: 1 years ago

Which Is Your favorite Talat Mahmood song?

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Posted: 1 years ago

I knew it was Talat's birthday, but didn't have time to post a tribute smiley13.. gonna copy the one from my Sadabahar music chat thread in a while.

Favorite Talat songs? So so many. But from the list above.. it's got to be Jalte hain jiske liye, with Jayen toh Jayen kahan coming a close second. As if the tune and Talat's voice and Sunil Dutt on screen wasn't enough to melt me in a puddle of goo, Majrooh's lyrics are like the final blow...


Jab talak na ye tere ras ke bhare hoton se mile

Yoonhi awara phirega ye teri zulfon ke tale...


What beautiful metaphors! smiley42 It makes me weep

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Posted: 1 years ago

Madhubala Death Anniversary Feb 23

(reproducing my write-up on her birth anniversary from the Sadabahar Geet Chat thread)


Madhubala....


The actress that charmed and disarmed millions by not just her giggling persona or luminous beauty, but also her undeniable screen presence.


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It's true her looks overshadowed her acting skills, and she was given glam, flower pot roles that just required her to look pretty. So her good looks ended up being kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy for her, more's the pity.

I remember not long ago, a member had posted in the Bollywood forum that Madhubala is a one film wonder (referring to Mughal-e-Azam) and I had countered their point of view. I'm reproducing that post below:

I beg to differ. On the face of it, it seems like Madhubala was overshadowed by every other actress of her times - Meena Kumari, Nargis and Nutan were no doubt the better actors, Vyjayanthimala and Waheeda Rehman - the better dancers. Yet Madhubala held her own. She carved her own niche, one that hasn't been yet replaced, imho.

While her choice of films (and life choices) may seem poor and together with her continued ill- health may have led to her seeming downfall, I still feel she brought her own special charm and illuminating presence to all the movies she's done.

Look at her expressions in "Jaanewale se mulaqaat" from Amar - the grief seems to be coming from within her the way her throat moves with melody! Likewise in "Woh din kahan gaye bata" from Tarana where she was just about 19 years old. The kind of maturity she brought to that performance was noteworthy!

Her comic timing is something that is so under-rated- "Chalti ka naam gaadi" and "Half-ticket" were more Kishore Kumar films, and she was required just to play off him, but if you watch her expressions in "Main Sitaron ka Tarana" or "Aankhon mein tum" or "Haal Kaisa hai", you'll know what I mean when I say she was criminally under-utilized.

In "Mr and Mrs 55" she plays a spoilt heiress who is transformed by love and although the movie was a tad misogynistic, I think she turns in a beautiful performance! The initial happy-go-lucky Anita's obsession with the star Tennis player, Ramesh may come across as immature and silly, but Madhubala elevated that portrayal by bringing in a sweet innocence and charm to it.

All in all, I think her luminous beauty often got in the way of her being considered a serious actress and most of her roles ended up being the empty, glam, flower-pot roles, but even then she shone. Look at Kala Pani where she plays second fiddle to Dev Anand's character, but still manages to make her Asha an independent, strong and smart woman, holding her own ground. When Dev asks, in a moment completely smitten by her beauty, "Tum itni khoobsoorat kyon ho, Asha"? I echo his thoughts, since her beauty is what everyone sees, at the cost of ignoring everything else that she was capable of.

I had this friend in college - a cynical, unemotional, stoic guy who would laugh at me and tease me for showing any emotion of any kind during movies. I remember his reaction after he watched MeA - the scene where Anarkali is in chains in prison, looking frail and ill. She rises to her feet, the chains drag her down, and she falls to the ground. My friend's face was contorted in grief and anger, his fists were clenched tight, and with barely suppressed fury he hissed, "If I could, I would just punch my way into the screen and beat the s**t out of that Akbar"! That, to me, is Madhubala's impact as an actor!

I still feel as passionate about her contribution to Hindi cinema. In a short career, spanning just over a decade she made her way into the hearts and minds of the public, so much so that even international media was prompted to call her the World's biggest star. In fact, Frank Capra wanted to cast her, but her father was so strictly controlling that he did not allow her to go to any meetings or interviews. She was only allowed to go to a shoot and then back home. The only time she could break free from this was when James Burke did that famous photoshoot on her for Life Magazine in 1951.

Mumtaz Jehan Begum Dehlavi (aka Madhubala) was born in 1933, and raised in Delhi, being the fifth of 12 children. Her father was an employee on the Imperial Tobacco company, and had the infamous temper attributed to the Pathans (which they were), and one day in a fit of anger he ended up losing his job. The family was in dire straits, and although her father was an orthodox Muslim (he did not even allow his daughters to attend school), there was no way out but to let his daughter bail them out of their financial doldrums. Even as a child, Madhubala was fascinated with movies and would spend hours imitating famous stars before the mirror. At the age of 7, Madhubala sang on radio and then they were advised to go to Bombay to seek work in films. She starred as Baby Mumtaz in several films, while staying in a cowshed in Malad. Later, they moved to a rental apartment.

She had a near brush with death - before her illness became known. The house they stayed in was destroyed in a dock explosion, and the family survived only because they had gone away to the theater during the time. She went on to do several films which did not make a mark, and in 1945 during a shoot she vomited blood.

Her first successful starring role was in Kidar Sharma's Neel Kamal opposite Raj Kapoor, with whom she went on to star in several films. Devika Rani suggested that she change her screen name to Madhubala.

And then came Mahal in 1949, and it was hugely successful.

Her personal life was troubled though. She was burdened with being responsible for all her family, including her siblings. At such a young age! She was only 7 when she began earning. She knew Hindi and Urdu, but she hired a tutor to learn English. Her first relationship was with Prem Nath. They broke up because of religious reasons, and he went on to marry Bina Rai. I remember my dad saying how similar she looked to Madhubala and commenting that perhaps that was why Prem Nath gravitated towards her.

Then of course was the fabled romance with Dilip Kumar that began on the sets of Tarana (1951). They were both very serious about each other, and being from the same religion there seemed like nothing could hamper their union. But fate had other plans. They had been seeing each other close to 7 years, and were signed on for Naya Daur by B.R. Chopra. Madhubala's father was worried about her safety in the outdoor location for the film - because some untoward incidents had happened there with women recently. And he asked for the location to be changed. B.R. Chopra refused, and filed a lawsuit against Madhubala and her father for holding up the film. Dilip Kumar testified for B.R. Chopra and went against Madhubala. It broke her heart. Their relationship ended, but even later, her sister tells the story of how he would keep telling her he would marry her if she left her father and her family, which of course, she declined to do. But she never got over him. Later, she married Kishore Kumar in 1960 after being proposed to by Pradeep Kumar and Bharat Bhushan.

But by then, her ill-health had caught up with her. She had valiantly worked all through, not wanting to inconvenience her producers - although she had been asked to take it easy. But the ventricular septal defect had compromised her heart and also her lungs. She would be breathless and would cough up blood- or bleed through her nose. Mughal-e-Azam may have been her magnum opus but the physical exertions she had to endure, in addition to the mental agony of being close to DK, with whom she wasn't even on talking terms anymore, eventually took its toll.

She went to London to seek treatment and they gave her 2 years to live provided she lived a laidback lifestyle. She was 27! Imagine that kind of pronouncement at such a young age, and that too for such a lively, vibrant personality with a zest for life! What that must have done to her.

She was kept literally confined and bed-ridden in Kishore Kumar's flat in Bandra on doctor's advice and she hated it. He did not live with her and she felt abandoned, so she went away to her father's place. But her brother-in-law Ashok Kumar has spoken about how the illness and her helplessness because of it made her bad-tempered. She would be crying and screaming and ranting that she did not want to live like this and praying for a miracle cure because she did not want to die! Unfortunately, there was no cure for her illness in those times.

Her career also saw a lot of ups and downs because of her health issues. Her production company failed to take off. Even so, producers wanted her, because she was loved by people. The characters she played were smart, independent women, not afraid to speak their mind- be it Anita from Mr. and Mrs. 55, Asha from Kala Pani, or Renu from Chalti ka naam gaadi.

She died in 1969 at only 36. And left such an indelible imprint on our hearts and souls that I wonder what crazed heights she would have reached had it not been for her health setbacks. Then again, maybe her mystique and allure still lingers because we were blessed by her presence only for a short time.

We appreciate her more.

My favorite Madhubala movies -

Tarana : for the scorching chemistry with DK and the songs! I can watch their scenes in this one over and over!

Mr. and Mrs. 55 : for her brilliant comic timing - especially the scene where she tells Guru Dutt's character, Pritam to wait outside the registrar's office where her matrimony-phobic aunt has fixed up her marriage with him, only to divorce later for her inheritance. Anita, not knowing he's the one she's marrying, tells Pritam - Tum ruko. Main jhat se shaadi karke aayi! 🤣


Amar: Now this movie wasn't great, but Madhubala's performance was. And her character, Anju, a social activist is just so righteous, and so admirable that you cannot help but root for her. Wow! To give up the man you love, and insist he marries the village girl he ruined! Again, superb acting by her in this one.

Chalti ka naam gaadi: Where she plays the feisty Renu who knows her mind, and is not afraid to speak up. She fearlessly tells her dad she does not want to marry the man he picked for her (Sajjan) but is in love with Mannu (Kishore Kumar). And her expressions in 'Main Sitaron ka Tarana' are a hoot- she keeps up admirably with Kishoreda's madness in this one. To me, she was the only leading lady who could match his zaniness on screen! 😆

Kala Pani: Again here she plays an independent working woman, and manages to hold her own in a film that's dominated by Dev's character. She shines in the scenes with him! Their chemistry is great too - the scene in the newspaper office where he first sees her, and Dev's incredulous expression is a must see. He looks gobsmacked at her beauty - just like all of us! 😆

Mughal-e-Azam: There's nothing much left to say about this epic. Just that among acting stalwarts like DK and Prithviraj, Madhubala's performance as Anarkali is what has lingered in my heart and soul. That pain in her eyes when she's singing 'Bekas pe karam kijiye', or the desolation in her stance when she's being taken for the finale execution and 'Khuda nigehbaan' is playing in the background, or the defiance in her eyes when she sings and dances to 'Pyar kiya toh darna kya'. Every Madhubala moment in this epic is worth cherishing, imo!

They called her the 'Marilyn Monroe of India', So unfair!

To me, she's just Madhubala.


She was called the actress with a million-dollar smile, but it wasn't actually worth that.

It was priceless.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Today, Feb 24, marks the Birth Centenary of one of the most unique and I think, under-rated playback singers Hindi Cinema has ever known ... Talat Mahmood.

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I had been listening to Talat's golden voice since my childhood when my dad would play his reel-to-reel Talat collection of his most famous film and non-film ghazals. At the time, to my young, immature mind, it was just 'background' noise - some old fogey that my dad liked to listen to and I dismissed it and him. A lot of the music my dad would play was dismissed as background music then since my brother and me were more excited about discovering secretly bootlegged pop and rock music from undisclosed sources - mostly because there was a hint of the forbidden in it that appealed to our young, rebellious selves. My dad used to call him the 'King of Ghazals' and my teenage mind would scoff, not being able to look beyond Jagjit Singh.

It was only much later, when it wasn't thrust on us by my dad, that we gravitated towards all things Golden Era-related and Talat was, naturally, among our topmost fixations. In fact, I can proudly say, that we not just matched my father's obsession with his voice but far surpassed it going on to 'collect' vinyls, cassette tapes and CDs of his rare solos and duets that my dad himself hadn't heard of, despite being the music connoisseur he was! A definite feather in my cap! And I will shame-facedly admit, or even loudly declare that Talat Mahmood is indeed the 'King'- nope - the 'Emperor of Ghazals', because it's largely thanks to his songs that my love for this genre grew. Even now, if I were to make a choice to listen to Ghazals, Talat's would be the ones I would put on.

My dad had his most famous songs in his Talat collection, so of course I'd heard them all - 'Tasveer teri dil mera behla na sakegi', 'Phir mujhe deeda-e-tar yaad aaya', 'Jayen toh jayen kahan' and 'Jalte hain jiskeliye', 'Humse aaya na gaya', 'Shaam-e-gham ki kasam', 'Ae dil mujhe aisi jagah le chal' to name a few.

Little did I realize I'd barely skimmed the surface of his talent. I discovered his duets much later, and what duets they are! He's sung the maximum with Lata though has a fair share with other female singers as well.

Talat was born in a conservative Muslim family in Lucknow and like most conservative families then, music was frowned upon but in no way did that diminish young Talat's fascination. He would frequent record stores and attend late-night concerts. He had begun singing gazals for AIR, Lucknow from as young as 16 years, going on to study music at the Marris Music College where he learned music from Pandit S.C.R. Bhat. In 1941, his first big break arrived in the form of the ghazal, 'Sab din ek samaan nahin tha' that he was contracted by HMV to record. In fact, Pankaj Mullick was present at the recording and gave him an offer to sing in films in Calcutta.

In 1944, came his ticket to fame, 'Tasveer teri dil mera behla na sakegi' and it was such an instant hit, that it prompted him to seek out Pankaj Mullick who gave him a job in his studio, where he met his idol, K.L Saigal. Being the handsome dude he was, he was offered films too and he acted in a few in supporting roles.

When the film-making business hub moved to Bombay from Calcutta in the late 40s, Talat moved too, but he did not find things smooth sailing in the big city despite being a well-recognized name. He was apparently so jaded and fearful of rejection that when Anil Biswas invited him over for a recording twice, he didn't go. Later, Anilda met him at an event and asked if he thought himself so great that he was above coming over when called. Talat, deeply apologetic, confessed his real reason for his reluctance and Anilda immediately signed him on for 'Aarzoo' and 'Ae dil mujhe aisi jagah le chal' became such a runaway hit that there was no looking back for the young singer.

Like all upcoming singers in those times, Talat too started out trying to emulate the great K.L Saigal but it was Anilda who saw the potential in the unique quiver in his voice and told him firmly he could either use it and be Talat Mahmood or lose it and be just another wannabe Saigal. Of course, he decided to use it and lent his voice to so many memorable filmi ghazals, many of them pictured on the top heroes from those times - Dilip Kumar, Dev Anand and Raj Kapoor.

He was also offered acting jobs - the first among them was Dil-e-nadaan, a sordid love triangle with him opposite Shyama and Peace Kanwal. In fact, Shyama has confessed to being so infatuated by Talat's good looks that she found it hard to focus with him on set, and would keep blushing in all their scenes together. However, his acting never took off the same way as his singing. Unfortunately for him, it was the acting jobs that led to him losing out on many playback singing projects because music directors thought he was busy acting, and preferred to sign on readily available singers like Rafi and Mukesh whose sole focus was singing. He did rule the roost in the 50s though, despite stiff competition.

S.D. Burman had wanted Rafi for 'Jalte hain jiske liye', but Bimalda insisted on Talat, and thank God he did. Though I adore Rafi, I cannot imagine this song in any voice other than Talat's. Similarly, Dilip Kumar had wanted him for 'Suhana Safar' but Talat graciously asked them to take on Mukesh, who was in dire straits at the time and needed the job, a gesture that Mukesh was immensely grateful for and actually touched him enough to move him to tears. Such was his generosity.

In fact, his voice seemed to reflect the man he was- gentle, soft-spoken and polite. Dilip Kumar had once called him 'the perfect gentleman', he would always be neatly and impeccably dressed and never uttered a curse or a bad word.

The advent of rock 'n' roll in the 60s and the economic prosperity of the middle class led to the fallacious perception that Talat's kind of singing was boring, slow and laidback and he began getting fewer and fewer offers. Apart from 'Chhaya', 'Haqeeqat', 'JahanAra' and a few odd films here and there, Talat faded into the background and began focusing more on tours and non-film songs until he eventually stopped singing due to ill-health.

His last recording was in 1985. He was awarded the Padma Bhushan in 1992 and passed away in 1998, aged 74.

Let's mark today and the next week, in memory of this soulful and dignified man and talented singer.

Please post your favorite Talat Mahmood songs.



(See Madhubala tribute above & post your favorite Madhubala songs too)

Posted: 1 years ago

Double post.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Some rarer Talat songs:


Tumko fursat ho

Film; Bewafa (1952)

Music: A.R. Quereshi

Lyrics: Sarshar Sailani


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh2dkCBqo8Q



Mujhe dekho hasrat ki tasveer hoon main

Film: Baaz (1953)

Music: O.P. Nayyar

Lyrics: Majrooh Sultanpuri


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkikJacLNXU



Aaye bhi akela, jaye bhi akela

Film: Dost (1954)

Music: Hansraj Behl

Lyrics: Varma Mallick


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB21c7HyoOo

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Posted: 1 years ago

Lizzie! What a beautiful and interesting write up on Talat Mahmood. Very much informative too. I didn't know half of the things you shared. Really loved reading it.

Both my parents loved singing and I remember my dad's friends and colleagues (all music lovers) would have a small get-together at our place once in every 4-5 months, discuss everything related to music and sing beautiful songs. And my dad's favourites were Talat Mahmood songs! ❤️


Two of my favourites which my dad also loved singing were Phir wohi shaam and Jalte hai jiske liye..

Sharing one of those here. ❤️

Phir wohi shaam (Madan Mohan's composition)

https://youtu.be/aYHxWmLTtpg?si=W_wvM-MCETwf87Rz


Harsh, see the above post by Lizzie on Talat Mahmood. I am sure you would also enjoy reading it.

Lizzie, I would surely get back to read on Madhubala after a while.. ❤️

Edit - NP, I just saw you tagged there already.. 😄

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