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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Have you seen Jab We Met with Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor? There is a scene in that movie, when Geet is explaining to Aditya, (when he is complaining about his mother having an EMA and leaving his father to be with the guy she loves) that woh "pyar mein thi" .... And when one is truly in love, one does not know what they are doing. Aditya even asks her after listening to her, where she got such nonsensical ideas in her head? And she reminds him, that we are all humans and we do fall prey to our emotions now and then. And that he should forgive his mother and not judge her for what she did for love.

He does not understand it then, but when he falls for Geet, and has to go back to lead a life without her, he understands what LOVE is really capable of. And the choice we make is dependent upon how we use our strengths or our weaknesses.

I do not like Ruhi's character arc in yrkkh, but I still don't think she is shameless or cringeworthy, simply because she is in TRAUMA, and the Goenkas have never addressed this on her behalf. She hungers for love and acceptance from the people she loves. There is a lot of guilt stored in her subconscious brain because of her childhood and the way her mother died. She repeats the blamegame every time things go wrong in her life. Same as she blamed Akshara for everything to do with Aarohi's death, she blames Abhira everytime she sees Armaan choosing Abhira over her.

The very fact that she chose to marry Rohit, when she was grieving her two day loss of Armaan, shows how unstable she really is. Everybody on IF keeps saying what a bad actor this Pratiksha, is. But I think she has acted very well... all her crying scenes show the amount of trauma she carries in her mind, and have you seen her getting happy over being given the chance to plan for the anniversary party with Armaan... her grin was so wide and shiny, that you could tell, she is going off her rails with happiness. Pratiksha has portrayed it so well. Even all her fight scenes with Abhira, are borderline demented. She is always on the edge with her, willing to fall down the abyss.

I believe, the sensitive Abhira, Akshara's daughter Abhira, will be the one to finally understand Ruhi's trauma and leave Armaan in the future, - because she is like her mumma, always doing the right thing - thinking that Ruhi needs Armaan. As for Ruhi, she is really not in love with Armaan either. She just wants him, because she feels she fell for him at first sight. However what she does not realise is that Armaan is not what he portrays on the outside, he may be an intelligent man, a hotshot lawyer, a handsome guy who is followed by many, but essentially he is also a broken man within, with his own personal trauma carrying the burden of keeping his seemingly happy but broken family together. These two just fancied themselves to be in love, but I bet you, once the initial interest wears off, they would have both realised that they are not two halves that would complete each other. They both require things that neither can give the other.

Ruhi needs a man who will put her first before anything else, which actually Rohit can give, because he does not have the restrictions and responsibilities that Armaan has. And Armaan needs a woman who is sensitive enough to delve into his past, understand it and help him heal. Somebody who will value him for himself, and not for his trappings. Abhira has these qualities in spades. And little by little her ways of bonding are becoming his habit. Take for example today's episode... how he kept asking her to opine on the fact that she saw him with another woman, who he had now explained to her as his ex gf. And he was beside himself, that she preferred to keep quiet, instead of fighting with him. Her silence unsettled him so much that he decided to go for a walk but came back to take the shawl that she had told him to take. His going out for a walk was his little attempt at defiance. She is fast becoming habit, and if she even veers off course, he catches it quickly and tries to move heaven and earth to make things alright between them. Everyday he falls more and more deeper for her, and I can't wait to see how devastated he is going to be when he realises that he has fallen for her. Its going to be a bomb on his head, because as romantic stories go, the protagonists usually realise it pretty late, after the water has gone from under the bridge. smiley37 And this river in his life is called Abhira.

.... If you read this essay up until now, I congratulate you. smiley2 for having so much patience.

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much love, light and laughter,

Battu.


Everything u wrote is so detailed and nice👍

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neeharika


Everything u wrote is so detailed and nice👍



Thank you dear.
Actually I wanted to write more. But I thought people won't read anything that long. So cut it short.

I may write more on Ruhi and Abhira a little later in the day, after seeing today's episode and pre-cap. The more Ruhi pushes herself towards Armaan, the more he gravitates towards Abhira.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Have you seen Jab We Met with Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor? There is a scene in that movie, when Geet is explaining to Aditya, (when he is complaining about his mother having an EMA and leaving his father to be with the guy she loves) that woh "pyar mein thi" .... And when one is truly in love, one does not know what they are doing. Aditya even asks her after listening to her, where she got such nonsensical ideas in her head? And she reminds him, that we are all humans and we do fall prey to our emotions now and then. And that he should forgive his mother and not judge her for what she did for love.

He does not understand it then, but when he falls for Geet, and has to go back to lead a life without her, he understands what LOVE is really capable of. And the choice we make is dependent upon how we use our strengths or our weaknesses.

I do not like Ruhi's character arc in yrkkh, but I still don't think she is shameless or cringeworthy, simply because she is in TRAUMA, and the Goenkas have never addressed this on her behalf. She hungers for love and acceptance from the people she loves. There is a lot of guilt stored in her subconscious brain because of her childhood and the way her mother died. She repeats the blamegame every time things go wrong in her life. Same as she blamed Akshara for everything to do with Aarohi's death, she blames Abhira everytime she sees Armaan choosing Abhira over her.

The very fact that she chose to marry Rohit, when she was grieving her two day loss of Armaan, shows how unstable she really is. Everybody on IF keeps saying what a bad actor this Pratiksha, is. But I think she has acted very well... all her crying scenes show the amount of trauma she carries in her mind, and have you seen her getting happy over being given the chance to plan for the anniversary party with Armaan... her grin was so wide and shiny, that you could tell, she is going off her rails with happiness. Pratiksha has portrayed it so well. Even all her fight scenes with Abhira, are borderline demented. She is always on the edge with her, willing to fall down the abyss.

I believe, the sensitive Abhira, Akshara's daughter Abhira, will be the one to finally understand Ruhi's trauma and leave Armaan in the future, - because she is like her mumma, always doing the right thing - thinking that Ruhi needs Armaan. As for Ruhi, she is really not in love with Armaan either. She just wants him, because she feels she fell for him at first sight. However what she does not realise is that Armaan is not what he portrays on the outside, he may be an intelligent man, a hotshot lawyer, a handsome guy who is followed by many, but essentially he is also a broken man within, with his own personal trauma carrying the burden of keeping his seemingly happy but broken family together. These two just fancied themselves to be in love, but I bet you, once the initial interest wears off, they would have both realised that they are not two halves that would complete each other. They both require things that neither can give the other.

Ruhi needs a man who will put her first before anything else, which actually Rohit can give, because he does not have the restrictions and responsibilities that Armaan has. And Armaan needs a woman who is sensitive enough to delve into his past, understand it and help him heal. Somebody who will value him for himself, and not for his trappings. Abhira has these qualities in spades. And little by little her ways of bonding are becoming his habit. Take for example today's episode... how he kept asking her to opine on the fact that she saw him with another woman, who he had now explained to her as his ex gf. And he was beside himself, that she preferred to keep quiet, instead of fighting with him. Her silence unsettled him so much that he decided to go for a walk but came back to take the shawl that she had told him to take. His going out for a walk was his little attempt at defiance. She is fast becoming habit, and if she even veers off course, he catches it quickly and tries to move heaven and earth to make things alright between them. Everyday he falls more and more deeper for her, and I can't wait to see how devastated he is going to be when he realises that he has fallen for her. Its going to be a bomb on his head, because as romantic stories go, the protagonists usually realise it pretty late, after the water has gone from under the bridge. smiley37 And this river in his life is called Abhira.

.... If you read this essay up until now, I congratulate you. smiley2 for having so much patience.

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much love, light and laughter,

Battu.

You explain the the 'grey's very well.Its helping me understand the characters better.

@Bold I felt the exact same.

I have not watched the initial few episodes,but I read somewhere that Vidya was first thinking of Armaan and Ruhi but Daadi said she thought Ruhi suited better for Rohit.I can clearly see that.Ruhi and Armaan are somewhat similar people hence there is less scope for any personal growth.

I really enjoyed reading your write up.I don't know whether the writers thinks this much while writing the story for itv.But such in depth analysis of the characters is making me enjoy this story a lot more.Looking forward to more of your pov.

Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Have you seen Jab We Met with Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor? There is a scene in that movie, when Geet is explaining to Aditya, (when he is complaining about his mother having an EMA and leaving his father to be with the guy she loves) that woh "pyar mein thi" .... And when one is truly in love, one does not know what they are doing. Aditya even asks her after listening to her, where she got such nonsensical ideas in her head? And she reminds him, that we are all humans and we do fall prey to our emotions now and then. And that he should forgive his mother and not judge her for what she did for love.

He does not understand it then, but when he falls for Geet, and has to go back to lead a life without her, he understands what LOVE is really capable of. And the choice we make is dependent upon how we use our strengths or our weaknesses.

I do not like Ruhi's character arc in yrkkh, but I still don't think she is shameless or cringeworthy, simply because she is in TRAUMA, and the Goenkas have never addressed this on her behalf. She hungers for love and acceptance from the people she loves. There is a lot of guilt stored in her subconscious brain because of her childhood and the way her mother died. She repeats the blamegame every time things go wrong in her life. Same as she blamed Akshara for everything to do with Aarohi's death, she blames Abhira everytime she sees Armaan choosing Abhira over her.

The very fact that she chose to marry Rohit, when she was grieving her two day loss of Armaan, shows how unstable she really is. Everybody on IF keeps saying what a bad actor this Pratiksha, is. But I think she has acted very well... all her crying scenes show the amount of trauma she carries in her mind, and have you seen her getting happy over being given the chance to plan for the anniversary party with Armaan... her grin was so wide and shiny, that you could tell, she is going off her rails with happiness. Pratiksha has portrayed it so well. Even all her fight scenes with Abhira, are borderline demented. She is always on the edge with her, willing to fall down the abyss.

I believe, the sensitive Abhira, Akshara's daughter Abhira, will be the one to finally understand Ruhi's trauma and leave Armaan in the future, - because she is like her mumma, always doing the right thing - thinking that Ruhi needs Armaan. As for Ruhi, she is really not in love with Armaan either. She just wants him, because she feels she fell for him at first sight. However what she does not realise is that Armaan is not what he portrays on the outside, he may be an intelligent man, a hotshot lawyer, a handsome guy who is followed by many, but essentially he is also a broken man within, with his own personal trauma carrying the burden of keeping his seemingly happy but broken family together. These two just fancied themselves to be in love, but I bet you, once the initial interest wears off, they would have both realised that they are not two halves that would complete each other. They both require things that neither can give the other.

Ruhi needs a man who will put her first before anything else, which actually Rohit can give, because he does not have the restrictions and responsibilities that Armaan has. And Armaan needs a woman who is sensitive enough to delve into his past, understand it and help him heal. Somebody who will value him for himself, and not for his trappings. Abhira has these qualities in spades. And little by little her ways of bonding are becoming his habit. Take for example today's episode... how he kept asking her to opine on the fact that she saw him with another woman, who he had now explained to her as his ex gf. And he was beside himself, that she preferred to keep quiet, instead of fighting with him. Her silence unsettled him so much that he decided to go for a walk but came back to take the shawl that she had told him to take. His going out for a walk was his little attempt at defiance. She is fast becoming habit, and if she even veers off course, he catches it quickly and tries to move heaven and earth to make things alright between them. Everyday he falls more and more deeper for her, and I can't wait to see how devastated he is going to be when he realises that he has fallen for her. Its going to be a bomb on his head, because as romantic stories go, the protagonists usually realise it pretty late, after the water has gone from under the bridge. smiley37 And this river in his life is called Abhira.

.... If you read this essay up until now, I congratulate you. smiley2 for having so much patience.

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much love, light and laughter,

Battu.

You know i don't despise her feelings i despise her thinking i know where she is coming from i totally do. But i can't help but see things like this that she in her mind wanting something which she can't have when she didn't do anything when she had the chance. She didn't act upon it. That what's disappointed me. Jiske liye puri family akshu ke against thi kya uske liye ek baar bhi poddar se baat nahi karte. Neither Armaan, Ruhi nor Swarna did anything. I can understand Armaan why he did so for once i can even understand Why Ruhi did so but Whenever Swarna say we are all doing this for Ruhi happiness i just want to strangle her cause jab she can do this for Ruhi happiness she didn't she kept mum and now blaming everyone except her.

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Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Have you seen Jab We Met with Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor? There is a scene in that movie, when Geet is explaining to Aditya, (when he is complaining about his mother having an EMA and leaving his father to be with the guy she loves) that woh "pyar mein thi" .... And when one is truly in love, one does not know what they are doing. Aditya even asks her after listening to her, where she got such nonsensical ideas in her head? And she reminds him, that we are all humans and we do fall prey to our emotions now and then. And that he should forgive his mother and not judge her for what she did for love.

He does not understand it then, but when he falls for Geet, and has to go back to lead a life without her, he understands what LOVE is really capable of. And the choice we make is dependent upon how we use our strengths or our weaknesses.

I do not like Ruhi's character arc in yrkkh, but I still don't think she is shameless or cringeworthy, simply because she is in TRAUMA, and the Goenkas have never addressed this on her behalf. She hungers for love and acceptance from the people she loves. There is a lot of guilt stored in her subconscious brain because of her childhood and the way her mother died. She repeats the blamegame every time things go wrong in her life. Same as she blamed Akshara for everything to do with Aarohi's death, she blames Abhira everytime she sees Armaan choosing Abhira over her.

The very fact that she chose to marry Rohit, when she was grieving her two day loss of Armaan, shows how unstable she really is. Everybody on IF keeps saying what a bad actor this Pratiksha, is. But I think she has acted very well... all her crying scenes show the amount of trauma she carries in her mind, and have you seen her getting happy over being given the chance to plan for the anniversary party with Armaan... her grin was so wide and shiny, that you could tell, she is going off her rails with happiness. Pratiksha has portrayed it so well. Even all her fight scenes with Abhira, are borderline demented. She is always on the edge with her, willing to fall down the abyss.

I believe, the sensitive Abhira, Akshara's daughter Abhira, will be the one to finally understand Ruhi's trauma and leave Armaan in the future, - because she is like her mumma, always doing the right thing - thinking that Ruhi needs Armaan. As for Ruhi, she is really not in love with Armaan either. She just wants him, because she feels she fell for him at first sight. However what she does not realise is that Armaan is not what he portrays on the outside, he may be an intelligent man, a hotshot lawyer, a handsome guy who is followed by many, but essentially he is also a broken man within, with his own personal trauma carrying the burden of keeping his seemingly happy but broken family together. These two just fancied themselves to be in love, but I bet you, once the initial interest wears off, they would have both realised that they are not two halves that would complete each other. They both require things that neither can give the other.

Ruhi needs a man who will put her first before anything else, which actually Rohit can give, because he does not have the restrictions and responsibilities that Armaan has. And Armaan needs a woman who is sensitive enough to delve into his past, understand it and help him heal. Somebody who will value him for himself, and not for his trappings. Abhira has these qualities in spades. And little by little her ways of bonding are becoming his habit. Take for example today's episode... how he kept asking her to opine on the fact that she saw him with another woman, who he had now explained to her as his ex gf. And he was beside himself, that she preferred to keep quiet, instead of fighting with him. Her silence unsettled him so much that he decided to go for a walk but came back to take the shawl that she had told him to take. His going out for a walk was his little attempt at defiance. She is fast becoming habit, and if she even veers off course, he catches it quickly and tries to move heaven and earth to make things alright between them. Everyday he falls more and more deeper for her, and I can't wait to see how devastated he is going to be when he realises that he has fallen for her. Its going to be a bomb on his head, because as romantic stories go, the protagonists usually realise it pretty late, after the water has gone from under the bridge. smiley37 And this river in his life is called Abhira.

.... If you read this essay up until now, I congratulate you. smiley2 for having so much patience.

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much love, light and laughter,

Battu.

I love the detailed analysis but there are differences between Adi’s mom and Ruhi. His mom took accountability and ran away but owned up to her choice. She didn’t pretend to be a goody two shoes. I do agree with you that people do crazy things for love but Ruhi’s love for A is so bland. Their whole love story lacks substance so Ruhi’s feelings seem to be hollow. Also I am sorry but Pratiksha hasn’t been great at any of the emotional scenes she is one of the major reasons I can’t seem to connect with R. Her crying scenes and the scenes where she is angry and confrontational are very uncomfortable and a torture to watch. She desperately needs to improve. I do get your whole analysis on Ruhi’s back story it’s just that I feel it hasn’t been portrayed well enough. Like we barely get any monologues of her character that explains her real and raw emotions behind her actions she comes of as lovelorn teenager in most scenes . I always compare her character with Ragini’s from Swaragini not sure if you have watched it or not even in that show the character was obsessed with her sister’s fiancée and ends up marrying him. The acting was top notch there she also had a back story that was portrayed really well. Also she was a very self aware character there were times she would admit that she is doing the wrong thing but she would it excuse it all to being in love like I remember she said “Mohabbat buri hain buri hain Mohabbat kehen jay rahay hain phir bhi kiyay ja rahay hain” Ruhi on the contrary never gets good stuff or anything that makes me feel more for her
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Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Have you seen Jab We Met with Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor? There is a scene in that movie, when Geet is explaining to Aditya, (when he is complaining about his mother having an EMA and leaving his father to be with the guy she loves) that woh "pyar mein thi" .... And when one is truly in love, one does not know what they are doing. Aditya even asks her after listening to her, where she got such nonsensical ideas in her head? And she reminds him, that we are all humans and we do fall prey to our emotions now and then. And that he should forgive his mother and not judge her for what she did for love.

He does not understand it then, but when he falls for Geet, and has to go back to lead a life without her, he understands what LOVE is really capable of. And the choice we make is dependent upon how we use our strengths or our weaknesses.

I do not like Ruhi's character arc in yrkkh, but I still don't think she is shameless or cringeworthy, simply because she is in TRAUMA, and the Goenkas have never addressed this on her behalf. She hungers for love and acceptance from the people she loves. There is a lot of guilt stored in her subconscious brain because of her childhood and the way her mother died. She repeats the blamegame every time things go wrong in her life. Same as she blamed Akshara for everything to do with Aarohi's death, she blames Abhira everytime she sees Armaan choosing Abhira over her.

The very fact that she chose to marry Rohit, when she was grieving her two day loss of Armaan, shows how unstable she really is. Everybody on IF keeps saying what a bad actor this Pratiksha, is. But I think she has acted very well... all her crying scenes show the amount of trauma she carries in her mind, and have you seen her getting happy over being given the chance to plan for the anniversary party with Armaan... her grin was so wide and shiny, that you could tell, she is going off her rails with happiness. Pratiksha has portrayed it so well. Even all her fight scenes with Abhira, are borderline demented. She is always on the edge with her, willing to fall down the abyss.

I believe, the sensitive Abhira, Akshara's daughter Abhira, will be the one to finally understand Ruhi's trauma and leave Armaan in the future, - because she is like her mumma, always doing the right thing - thinking that Ruhi needs Armaan. As for Ruhi, she is really not in love with Armaan either. She just wants him, because she feels she fell for him at first sight. However what she does not realise is that Armaan is not what he portrays on the outside, he may be an intelligent man, a hotshot lawyer, a handsome guy who is followed by many, but essentially he is also a broken man within, with his own personal trauma carrying the burden of keeping his seemingly happy but broken family together. These two just fancied themselves to be in love, but I bet you, once the initial interest wears off, they would have both realised that they are not two halves that would complete each other. They both require things that neither can give the other.

Ruhi needs a man who will put her first before anything else, which actually Rohit can give, because he does not have the restrictions and responsibilities that Armaan has. And Armaan needs a woman who is sensitive enough to delve into his past, understand it and help him heal. Somebody who will value him for himself, and not for his trappings. Abhira has these qualities in spades. And little by little her ways of bonding are becoming his habit. Take for example today's episode... how he kept asking her to opine on the fact that she saw him with another woman, who he had now explained to her as his ex gf. And he was beside himself, that she preferred to keep quiet, instead of fighting with him. Her silence unsettled him so much that he decided to go for a walk but came back to take the shawl that she had told him to take. His going out for a walk was his little attempt at defiance. She is fast becoming habit, and if she even veers off course, he catches it quickly and tries to move heaven and earth to make things alright between them. Everyday he falls more and more deeper for her, and I can't wait to see how devastated he is going to be when he realises that he has fallen for her. Its going to be a bomb on his head, because as romantic stories go, the protagonists usually realise it pretty late, after the water has gone from under the bridge. smiley37 And this river in his life is called Abhira.

.... If you read this essay up until now, I congratulate you. smiley2 for having so much patience.

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much love, light and laughter,

Battu.

Thanks for putting your perspective.

However I think Ruhi’s character arc is cringeworthy-

1. Not because she is in love with Armaan

2. Because she married Rohit to start EMA. If Abhira was a real wife ( which might happen soon) it is even more cringeworthy

3. Because now she is imposing herself on Armaan without his wish

As much as I liked Jab we met dialogue of Kareena and Shahid’s realization, I am sorry this is not same. If Ruhi was in love and would fight for her love or even leave the love for time to decide for them then the jab we met essence would have been there.


she doesn’t have any ounce of knowledge who Armaan is.


No one has rights to hurt others because they are heartbroken. She needs serious medical attention.

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Have you seen Jab We Met with Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor? There is a scene in that movie, when Geet is explaining to Aditya, (when he is complaining about his mother having an EMA and leaving his father to be with the guy she loves) that woh "pyar mein thi" .... And when one is truly in love, one does not know what they are doing. Aditya even asks her after listening to her, where she got such nonsensical ideas in her head? And she reminds him, that we are all humans and we do fall prey to our emotions now and then. And that he should forgive his mother and not judge her for what she did for love.

He does not understand it then, but when he falls for Geet, and has to go back to lead a life without her, he understands what LOVE is really capable of. And the choice we make is dependent upon how we use our strengths or our weaknesses.

I do not like Ruhi's character arc in yrkkh, but I still don't think she is shameless or cringeworthy, simply because she is in TRAUMA, and the Goenkas have never addressed this on her behalf. She hungers for love and acceptance from the people she loves. There is a lot of guilt stored in her subconscious brain because of her childhood and the way her mother died. She repeats the blamegame every time things go wrong in her life. Same as she blamed Akshara for everything to do with Aarohi's death, she blames Abhira everytime she sees Armaan choosing Abhira over her.

The very fact that she chose to marry Rohit, when she was grieving her two day loss of Armaan, shows how unstable she really is. Everybody on IF keeps saying what a bad actor this Pratiksha, is. But I think she has acted very well... all her crying scenes show the amount of trauma she carries in her mind, and have you seen her getting happy over being given the chance to plan for the anniversary party with Armaan... her grin was so wide and shiny, that you could tell, she is going off her rails with happiness. Pratiksha has portrayed it so well. Even all her fight scenes with Abhira, are borderline demented. She is always on the edge with her, willing to fall down the abyss.

I believe, the sensitive Abhira, Akshara's daughter Abhira, will be the one to finally understand Ruhi's trauma and leave Armaan in the future, - because she is like her mumma, always doing the right thing - thinking that Ruhi needs Armaan. As for Ruhi, she is really not in love with Armaan either. She just wants him, because she feels she fell for him at first sight. However what she does not realise is that Armaan is not what he portrays on the outside, he may be an intelligent man, a hotshot lawyer, a handsome guy who is followed by many, but essentially he is also a broken man within, with his own personal trauma carrying the burden of keeping his seemingly happy but broken family together. These two just fancied themselves to be in love, but I bet you, once the initial interest wears off, they would have both realised that they are not two halves that would complete each other. They both require things that neither can give the other.

Ruhi needs a man who will put her first before anything else, which actually Rohit can give, because he does not have the restrictions and responsibilities that Armaan has. And Armaan needs a woman who is sensitive enough to delve into his past, understand it and help him heal. Somebody who will value him for himself, and not for his trappings. Abhira has these qualities in spades. And little by little her ways of bonding are becoming his habit. Take for example today's episode... how he kept asking her to opine on the fact that she saw him with another woman, who he had now explained to her as his ex gf. And he was beside himself, that she preferred to keep quiet, instead of fighting with him. Her silence unsettled him so much that he decided to go for a walk but came back to take the shawl that she had told him to take. His going out for a walk was his little attempt at defiance. She is fast becoming habit, and if she even veers off course, he catches it quickly and tries to move heaven and earth to make things alright between them. Everyday he falls more and more deeper for her, and I can't wait to see how devastated he is going to be when he realises that he has fallen for her. Its going to be a bomb on his head, because as romantic stories go, the protagonists usually realise it pretty late, after the water has gone from under the bridge. smiley37 And this river in his life is called Abhira.

.... If you read this essay up until now, I congratulate you. smiley2 for having so much patience.

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much love, light and laughter,

Battu.


I agree with your points. It's exactly what pains me because I know the makers are just going to make her another Pakhi and not delve into her issues. They are just going to have her as this obsessive third wheel who will never let the couple live in peace. They will never explore her as the parallel lead as she's supposed to be explored, especially the trauma. Because anything related to mental health is not something they deal with on national television except mention this 'therapy' like they've been doing. We're still backward in this essence and the taboo still stays.

But it still does not stop me from hoping maybe atleast if not dealing with her trauma, they would maybe atleast, get her over Armaan instead of remaining the third wheel always.

(The precap today made me wish I could just hate the character but no. It just had me so upset)

Edited by Ps143 - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Have you seen Jab We Met with Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor? There is a scene in that movie, when Geet is explaining to Aditya, (when he is complaining about his mother having an EMA and leaving his father to be with the guy she loves) that woh "pyar mein thi" .... And when one is truly in love, one does not know what they are doing. Aditya even asks her after listening to her, where she got such nonsensical ideas in her head? And she reminds him, that we are all humans and we do fall prey to our emotions now and then. And that he should forgive his mother and not judge her for what she did for love.

He does not understand it then, but when he falls for Geet, and has to go back to lead a life without her, he understands what LOVE is really capable of. And the choice we make is dependent upon how we use our strengths or our weaknesses.

I do not like Ruhi's character arc in yrkkh, but I still don't think she is shameless or cringeworthy, simply because she is in TRAUMA, and the Goenkas have never addressed this on her behalf. She hungers for love and acceptance from the people she loves. There is a lot of guilt stored in her subconscious brain because of her childhood and the way her mother died. She repeats the blamegame every time things go wrong in her life. Same as she blamed Akshara for everything to do with Aarohi's death, she blames Abhira everytime she sees Armaan choosing Abhira over her.

The very fact that she chose to marry Rohit, when she was grieving her two day loss of Armaan, shows how unstable she really is. Everybody on IF keeps saying what a bad actor this Pratiksha, is. But I think she has acted very well... all her crying scenes show the amount of trauma she carries in her mind, and have you seen her getting happy over being given the chance to plan for the anniversary party with Armaan... her grin was so wide and shiny, that you could tell, she is going off her rails with happiness. Pratiksha has portrayed it so well. Even all her fight scenes with Abhira, are borderline demented. She is always on the edge with her, willing to fall down the abyss.

I believe, the sensitive Abhira, Akshara's daughter Abhira, will be the one to finally understand Ruhi's trauma and leave Armaan in the future, - because she is like her mumma, always doing the right thing - thinking that Ruhi needs Armaan. As for Ruhi, she is really not in love with Armaan either. She just wants him, because she feels she fell for him at first sight. However what she does not realise is that Armaan is not what he portrays on the outside, he may be an intelligent man, a hotshot lawyer, a handsome guy who is followed by many, but essentially he is also a broken man within, with his own personal trauma carrying the burden of keeping his seemingly happy but broken family together. These two just fancied themselves to be in love, but I bet you, once the initial interest wears off, they would have both realised that they are not two halves that would complete each other. They both require things that neither can give the other.

Ruhi needs a man who will put her first before anything else, which actually Rohit can give, because he does not have the restrictions and responsibilities that Armaan has. And Armaan needs a woman who is sensitive enough to delve into his past, understand it and help him heal. Somebody who will value him for himself, and not for his trappings. Abhira has these qualities in spades. And little by little her ways of bonding are becoming his habit. Take for example today's episode... how he kept asking her to opine on the fact that she saw him with another woman, who he had now explained to her as his ex gf. And he was beside himself, that she preferred to keep quiet, instead of fighting with him. Her silence unsettled him so much that he decided to go for a walk but came back to take the shawl that she had told him to take. His going out for a walk was his little attempt at defiance. She is fast becoming habit, and if she even veers off course, he catches it quickly and tries to move heaven and earth to make things alright between them. Everyday he falls more and more deeper for her, and I can't wait to see how devastated he is going to be when he realises that he has fallen for her. Its going to be a bomb on his head, because as romantic stories go, the protagonists usually realise it pretty late, after the water has gone from under the bridge. smiley37 And this river in his life is called Abhira.

.... If you read this essay up until now, I congratulate you. smiley2 for having so much patience.

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much love, light and laughter,

Battu.


This is so well articulated!! I loved it and it makes so much sense! I wish you'd write a take on the episode everyday on the episode thread. Its very well written and actually makes me want to sympathise with ruhi a teeny tiny bit

Posted: 1 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: fangirl1012

I love the detailed analysis but there are differences between Adi’s mom and Ruhi. His mom took accountability and ran away but owned up to her choice. She didn’t pretend to be a goody two shoes. I do agree with you that people do crazy things for love but Ruhi’s love for A is so bland. Their whole love story lacks substance so Ruhi’s feelings seem to be hollow. Also I am sorry but Pratiksha hasn’t been great at any of the emotional scenes she is one of the major reasons I can’t seem to connect with R. Her crying scenes and the scenes where she is angry and confrontational are very uncomfortable and a torture to watch. She desperately needs to improve. I do get your whole analysis on Ruhi’s back story it’s just that I feel it hasn’t been portrayed well enough. Like we barely get any monologues of her character that explains her real and raw emotions behind her actions she comes of as lovelorn teenager in most scenes . I always compare her character with Ragini’s from Swaragini not sure if you have watched it or not even in that show the character was obsessed with her sister’s fiancée and ends up marrying him. The acting was top notch there she also had a back story that was portrayed really well. Also she was a very self aware character there were times she would admit that she is doing the wrong thing but she would it excuse it all to being in love like I remember she said “Mohabbat buri hain buri hain Mohabbat kehen jay rahay hain phir bhi kiyay ja rahay hain” Ruhi on the contrary never gets good stuff or anything that makes me feel more for her

True as much as i want to see her feelings and defend her but i can't deny the fact that she literally ruin the life of many people just so she can see her so called soulmate everyday. She just to fulfill her desires to live with her love of her life she is not caring about her in laws family and her maykaa and just keeping stooping so low. Her one sentence could have saved her but she just didn't utter anything and punishing Abhira and Rohit for that. I understand her desire to complete her love story but isn't its selfish of her to think like this and not caring a single person who are actually caring about her not even her bnanu. I love jab we met and Adi mom but whatever she did she knew her husband isn't going to be affected because of it. She atleast tried for couple of years. Agar Ruhi ne ek baar bhi Rohit ke liye sirf pinch of effort bhi kiye hote toh shayad ye nahi kehti but she didn't. Don't see as her point of view for once and see a person who sacrificed his beloved granddaughter just for her got heart attack just cause she lost her husband what will be his reaction on this.

You know i always keep myself on people situation to understand them well and when i keep myself at Ruhi place i always see my father in Manish Goenka and his head bow down infront of everyone and I can't see it no matter how much it's paining me I can't see it.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: Mukthaa

You explain the the 'grey's very well.Its helping me understand the characters better.

@Bold I felt the exact same.

I have not watched the initial few episodes, but I read somewhere that Vidya was first thinking of Armaan and Ruhi but Daadi said she thought Ruhi suited better for Rohit.I can clearly see that. Ruhi and Armaan are somewhat similar people hence there is less scope for any personal growth.

I really enjoyed reading your write up. I don't know whether the writers thinks this much while writing the story for itv. But such in depth analysis of the characters is making me enjoy this story a lot more. Looking forward to more of your pov.



Thank you for your kind words.... I am so glad I was able to make you look at Ruhi with kinder eyes.

See the thing is that in a drama you need all kinds of characters to make the story interesting and to devise plots that take the story forward. If you look at this generation's yrkkh opening poster, you will know whats the endgame for Armaan.

They have Abhira in the forefront, Behind her is Armaan, and last is Ruhi. Now what is important here is where all three are looking, and also the expressions on their faces. Everybody is smiling but albeit for different reasons.

Abhira is looking straight ahead. Which means her gaze is on her goal. Armaan is also looking straight ahead, but he has Abhira in his view and he is smiling, which means whatever his start was, his goal is Abhira, and he will support her all the way through. Now look at Ruhi.... she is not facing ahead, her body is actually facing the other way, but she is looking back with a smile on her face. This suggests two things. One is that she always wanted Armaan to go with her, hence she will keep coming into his space with her own happiness in mind. Always luring him away from Abhira. But not giving him, what he wants. Secondly Ruhi is this spoilt dreamy character, who thinks that because she has dreamt something it must come true, that is why the extreme smile. She expects unrealistic things out of life, and she depends on others to make these to happen.

But both Abhira and Armaan, work on their goals, both professional and personal on their own. This is what he meant, when Armaan told of Ruhi on the day she thought Abhira pushed him.... he asserted to her that Abhira is not immature.

Armaan and Abhira's love story is going to be like a fine wine, which just gets more sweeter as days go by. Already we can see that Abhira's antics (which Ruhi thinks are immature) give Armaan a lot of solace. Not because she is mischievous or childish, but because he sees that it's her way to deal with the gargantuan problems in her life. Ruhi in those terms has had a very protected life, and yet she plays the victim card every time something goes even slightly wrong. Abhira never ever plays the victim card. And that is solace for Armaan, because she sees to it that she does not become an added responsibility for him. Her silent way of standing aback and doing things for the betterment of everyone is what draws Armaan towards her. Their advance towards each other is very silent, and stealthy, which is why Ruhi will never be able to penetrate this. Their relationship is very very personal. and as Swarna tried telling Ruhi the other day, ki unhe bhi pataa nahi chalega ki kab duriyaan mit gayi, kab lagao hua aur kab ek dusre ko chaahne lage.

I believe for Abhira and Armaan's love story to become as impactful as the Kaira love story, we will need all antagonistic's to bring challenges in front of them. The more the antagonism, the stronger their bond becomes. And we will have Ruhi doing her best to lure Armaan away, Dragonsa bringing on her worst Dragon behaviour, Vidya being unnecessarily mean and Manisha Chachi throwing her truth bombs at consistent intervals to make all the challenges for Maahira all the more messy. But this all will bring Armaan even more closer to Abhira. That is how story tellin on Star Plus works. Its an elongated chain of vile behaviour that gets the best out of the lead pair always!

That's never going to change.

@bold red

Yes that is correct. Vidya had initially thought that she would be a good bride for Armaan. But she immediately changed her mind when Dragonsa took Rohit's name. This is what Madhav keeps telling Vidya, that she is biased towards Rohit, and very easily expects Armaan to make all the sacrifices. But even Vidya is also so much in the changul of Dragon Sa, that she has made her home into a prison for herself, and follows every word of her Saas. She does so because, when she discovered the guy she married was already married and had a child, the person who supported her was her saas, so in a convulated manner she has told herself that since saas supported her, she has to support saas.

For me Abhira's story is very parellel to Naira's. Just as Naira had to put up with the egoistic ways of Suhasini Goenka, Abhira will have to put up with Dragonsa's ego. The only difference between these two Dadi Saas's is that Suhasini Goenka felt the sun shone out of Kartik, so for his happiness she accepted Naira in her life. But in case of Dragon Sa, she is fond of Armaan, but not so fond that she will put up with Abhira for his sake. So Abhira's challenge as far as Armaan's Dadi is concerned will be more than that of Naira.

@bold blue

Yeah they do think. I have several friends who are writers and producers in ITV. And they all follow the rules of foreshadowing, creating character arcs and complex storytelling when they have to go write a completely new story / or take a leap. They have to! Else same thing will happen what happened with yrkkh gen 3.

See we feel that they do not put thought, but its not that way. For serials like YRKKH that are running for so long, they will have a team of writers - So they will have the Creative Director who brainstorms with the script writer for a new story, then the that story is given to the screenplay writer, who sets the mood along with the script, and lastly are the dialogue writers. They all work in teams. So the story is going through several hands before it comes to the Director. So to think that they don't think at all is really not it. If there are any bloopers or broken links, then it could be at the edit table, or because of time crunch. These writers are seasoned writers who can put in symbolism at the drop of the hat in the written material.

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I will write about Abhira and Ruhi tomorrow now. smiley39 Ab hamein ninni aa rahi hai.

See you later Alligator.

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much love, light and laughter,
Battu.

Edited by bajarbattu - 1 years ago

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