Vanshaj {EDT #41} Rishton ki Mahabharat - Page 74

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Read my message again. I myself said that her love had been selfless, this is the first time she is expecting something.

She was largely aloof of any expectations before this track, it's only now that she wants sometime in lieu of what she is doing, else earlier she never asked a thing.

Coming to what she is doing bit, so she is a negative character who doesn't mind hurting others when it comes to self goal. She was always like that. People have different attitude towards different people, just because she truly (or earlier selflessly) loved DJ, doesn't mean she is overall selfless. She since the start has been prioritizing herself and her loved ones over others and "right" she did the same during 75th anniversary. Even continuing with EMA shows that she was more interested in her happiness over others.

Negative and positive both kind of characters are present in shows and will be shown. They won't only show Yuvika supporters like Ruhi, there have be people against her, unless she marries Arjun and she switches sides.

About Neil, again I never said that he is equivalent to Ruhi or Simone, rather said he is important since he is related to protagonist. Obviously he will have more much importance than Ruhi Simone who are against antagonist and the antagonist in any story has much lesser scope. He himself is dependent on the protagonist.

But still Neil isn't the lead, his is the supporting role (you may say the main supporting role), we had been thinking about some hidden purpose, some major backstory of his and as we saw it was never something makers had in mind. Even now I don't think his individual story will have much importance.

I have read your post 4-5 times Di because I couldn't believe you wrote Simone's love for DJ self less Nah! This is not the first time, she always had this wish in the back of her mind that's why she consciously got engaged in Extra Marital Affair so that ONE Day she gets to live the title of DJ's wife which she thinks she deserves because they both loves each other. Simone is actually not a submissive lady like how Roohi is, Simone is Rebellious, Simone is a more Strong character she will never ever compromise on anything. Their cold behaviour around 75th anniversary, their so called break up everything happened because Simone wanted recognition from DJ. Simone behaved rudely with Gargi because she holds grudges against her, Simone always wished to become Mahajan Bahu and that is not technically wrong but you can't call it self less love. Simone's love is anything but self less? This is not the first time when DJ is making her work for him promising marriage, that promise was always between them that's why they got engaged in EMA at the first place. Simone is not someone who will get engaged in EMA without a promise of marriage. I will never call her love self less because no love story that encourages EMA can be self less. I won't call Simone entirely wrong because she has her reasons regarding DJ but whatever Simone doing with Isha Arjun Yuvika that's wrong. She is bound to switch sides but that won't change her past deeds!

Neil is Male Lead, hidden purpose or backstory tel lene geya. He is Male Lead and why he is so, TIME will tell THIS!

I NEVER said, Neil is only male lead, DJ is lead too but Neil is not supporting character because his character doesn't fall within the definition of ITV Supporting Characters. ITV is women oriented where Male leads suffers with such issues like Screen space, standing in background, etc etc but as Mishkat in his recent interview on this same topic said, at the end of the day A HERO is a HERO! Period

Originally posted by: A_for_Arpita

I have read your post 4-5 times Di because I couldn't believe you wrote Simone's love for DJ self less Nah! This is not the first time, she always had this wish in the back of her mind that's why she consciously got engaged in Extra Marital Affair so that ONE Day she gets to live the title of DJ's wife which she thinks she deserves because they both loves each other. Simone is actually not a submissive lady like how Roohi is, Simone is Rebellious, Simone is a more Strong character she will never ever compromise on anything. Their cold behaviour around 75th anniversary, their so called break up everything happened because Simone wanted recognition from DJ. Simone behaved rudely with Gargi because she holds grudges against her, Simone always wished to become Mahajan Bahu and that is not technically wrong but you can't call it self less love. Simone's love is anything but self less? This is not the first time when DJ is making her work for him promising marriage, that promise was always between them that's why they got engaged in EMA at the first place. Simone is not someone who will get engaged in EMA without a promise of marriage. I will never call her love self less because no love story that encourages EMA can be self less. I won't call Simone entirely wrong because she has her reasons regarding DJ but whatever Simone doing with Isha Arjun Yuvika that's wrong. She is bound to switch sides but that won't change her past deeds!

Neil is Male Lead, hidden purpose or backstory tel lene geya. He is Male Lead and why he is so, TIME will tell THIS!

I NEVER said, Neil is only male lead, DJ is lead too but Neil is not supporting character because his character doesn't fall within the definition of ITV Supporting Characters. ITV is women oriented where Male leads suffers with such issues like Screen space, standing in background, etc etc but as Mishkat in his recent interview on this same topic said, at the end of the day A HERO is a HERO! Period

Yess. I fully agree with you on both the things. Simon is a villain. Period. Ab aur footage nhi dungi is Simone ko mai.

And about Neil being a ML, that's what I said too. ITV has ALWAYS been female centric. 90% serials to aise hi hain. They are based on a woman's life, they are from a woman's perspective, and their target audience is women. You mentioned Mishkat to I remembered Kavya. Usme bhi it revolves around FL and it's her story, but Mishkat is the ML. Aise hi there are countless examples, though I wouldn't want to go on that in EDT.

So yes that's my point too. ITV is female centric. DJ is the antagonist lead and Neil is the protagonist lead.

I respect all other POVs about this and I understand where they come from even though I don't agree.

Originally posted by: rbpll

I never believed that he was one of the lead, but he is one of the key characters. In fact, I think he is between the lead and the key character. I don't know what we call that.

But the thing is that they didn't utilise him properly in the core plot yet. In fact, individually kuch kiya nai uske characters ka thnag se. Now with Neivika romance, neil is getting ss consistently in every episode. Otherwise, anything related to him is shown in the span of 1-2 weeks.

Bold ; it's called a regular cast, higher than recurring and a bit lower than main leads

Originally posted by: samIHA04

Queen Bhoomi, it's high time kuch bhi karo bas neivika ke shaadi karadoaur Simone ko Arjun ke life se bahar feko

Why is Bhumi being a dhakkan when it comes to Simone? Why can't she tell her kids about DJ-Simone so that Arjun can stay away from her? She knows that A is good friends with her , she knows that isha teases him with Simone so why not tell the truth and forbid Arjun from interacting with her? She's channeling Prem by keeping this info from her stupid kids

Originally posted by: Saumya2102

Yess. I fully agree with you on both the things. Simon is a villain. Period. Ab aur footage nhi dungi is Simone ko mai.

And about Neil being a ML, that's what I said too. ITV has ALWAYS been female centric. 90% serials to aise hi hain. They are based on a woman's life, they are from a woman's perspective, and their target audience is women. You mentioned Mishkat to I remembered Kavya. Usme bhi it revolves around FL and it's her story, but Mishkat is the ML. Aise hi there are countless examples, though I wouldn't want to go on that in EDT.

So yes that's my point too. ITV is female centric. DJ is the antagonist lead and Neil is the protagonist lead.

I respect all other POVs about this and I understand where they come from even though I don't agree.

Recently there was one Interview of Mishkat where the reporter asked him about the scope for Male actors on ITV tho he said, ITV has always been Women oriented because it's Target audience are women that's why male actors on the name of male leads gets offered several such roles where they have to just stand in background to give expressions, that's the general position of so called male leads, Those actors who can afford like him prefers to avoid such roles and chooses to opt for such a Male Lead who has scope and potential to do something in overall storytelling. But having said that, at the end of the day a HERO is a HERO so even in women oriented shows you will get such male leads who has something to offer to the story and to audience! He said, Adhiraj is such a Hero. I will call Neil such a Hero. Regarding prominence screen space back story tho it's YUVIKA'S Story where if you call Neil a supporting character tho by that logic even DJ is a supporting character Because they legit skipped DJ's marriage (Will they skip Yuvika's Marriage? NO) they never showed DJ's Music Band related or SimJay love story related any Flashbacks. Neil ka backstory do episode pe niptaya tho DJ ka do lines mein ki he wanted to persue his career in music

Makers are obsessed with Yuvika still whatever they shows regarding DJ & Neil that's only because BOTH DJ & Neil are their MALE LEADS!

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

Thought the same. It can't be useless. But too cliché tbh. Let's see whether they read this and implement or not because Shooting to hua nahin hoga abhi tak. I believe aaj/kal ka episode will go in Bharadwaj's drama and Yuvika trying to manage stuff. Uske baad they will take ideas from here and there and build it. And since Subhadra is back Expect Miraya/Shanaya soon too.

They don't need to read this, they have executed RooJay Consummation before Simone's Re Entry means this is their plan

They don't take everything from here, they are actually very smart WRITERS

As they say, copying from the answer sheet of another is also an art in which many students fails not knowing what to copy, what to not, what is suitable answer etc so even when they takes ideas from here & there they are GOOD at that.

Originally posted by: asmitamohanty

Hmm. Okay.. now I get what you mean!!

Human emotions are complicated! Relationship can be really messy for some people, so you can judge actions but you can nevere judge love..

Did I get you right?

Yes true. And that's why I don't think her being equated with Kartik is justified

Technically speaking Kartik was less immoral, Yes he did lie to his fiance, but otherwise whatever he did was with someone who he was officially committed to and vice versa, unlike Simone who is with someone else' husband.

But if you compere only love of each, Kartik was someone who wanted everything in that relation, it was always about him and his feelings (even before they had made his character annoying and evil, he always wanted Yuvika for himself) that's a total contrast to Simone who despite being in an immoral relationship completely dedicated herself. She never expected DJ to treat her as a priority but wanted DJ to attain what he desires.

In fact in that context I find DJ and Kartik alike both of them wanted their lady love(DJ also his wife) to do what they want them to do.

Originally posted by: A_for_Arpita

I have read your post 4-5 times Di because I couldn't believe you wrote Simone's love for DJ self less Nah! This is not the first time, she always had this wish in the back of her mind that's why she consciously got engaged in Extra Marital Affair so that ONE Day she gets to live the title of DJ's wife which she thinks she deserves because they both loves each other. Simone is actually not a submissive lady like how Roohi is, Simone is Rebellious, Simone is a more Strong character she will never ever compromise on anything. Their cold behaviour around 75th anniversary, their so called break up everything happened because Simone wanted recognition from DJ. Simone behaved rudely with Gargi because she holds grudges against her, Simone always wished to become Mahajan Bahu and that is not technically wrong but you can't call it self less love. Simone's love is anything but self less? This is not the first time when DJ is making her work for him promising marriage, that promise was always between them that's why they got engaged in EMA at the first place. Simone is not someone who will get engaged in EMA without a promise of marriage. I will never call her love self less because no love story that encourages EMA can be self less. I won't call Simone entirely wrong because she has her reasons regarding DJ but whatever Simone doing with Isha Arjun Yuvika that's wrong. She is bound to switch sides but that won't change her past deeds!

Neil is Male Lead, hidden purpose or backstory tel lene geya. He is Male Lead and why he is so, TIME will tell THIS!

I NEVER said, Neil is only male lead, DJ is lead too but Neil is not supporting character because his character doesn't fall within the definition of ITV Supporting Characters. ITV is women oriented where Male leads suffers with such issues like Screen space, standing in background, etc etc but as Mishkat in his recent interview on this same topic said, at the end of the day A HERO is a HERO! Period

I don't remember (before this track) they ever showed her desire to become DJ's wife.

Yes she is much more strong and doesn't take it from others, but since the start she has been doing whatever DJ expects out of her. She isn't submissive to be dominated by DJ, but rather she does it willingly..

Cold behaviour was because she felt bad seeing her love with someone else, that's a different feeling, the so called break up happened as she felt it's affecting others.

Had she had any marriage expectations, she wouldn't have hid it, there was nothing to.she was

Her actions have no justification, but her love has been selfless until now

Hero is a hero for sure, but this show doesnt have a hero in romantic interest of female lead. Not necessarily every show have to have it that way...

DJ is antagonist and Yuvika is the hero of this show. Neil is a main supporting character or as Rupita said somewhere in between lead and prominent character..

Originally posted by: Pete15rogmourey

Bold ; it's called a regular cast, higher than recurring and a bit lower than main leads

But actually he is even over regular cast. You can say main non lead regular

Originally posted by: A_for_Arpita

Recently there was one Interview of Mishkat where the reporter asked him about the scope for Male actors on ITV tho he said, ITV has always been Women oriented because it's Target audience are women that's why male actors on the name of male leads gets offered several such roles where they have to just stand in background to give expressions, that's the general position of so called male leads, Those actors who can afford like him prefers to avoid such roles and chooses to opt for such a Male Lead who has scope and potential to do something in overall storytelling. But having said that, at the end of the day a HERO is a HERO so even in women oriented shows you will get such male leads who has something to offer to the story and to audience! He said, Adhiraj is such a Hero. I will call Neil such a Hero. Regarding prominence screen space back story tho it's YUVIKA'S Story where if you call Neil a supporting character tho by that logic even DJ is a supporting character Because they legit skipped DJ's marriage (Will they skip Yuvika's Marriage? NO) they never showed DJ's Music Band related or SimJay love story related any Flashbacks. Neil ka backstory do episode pe niptaya tho DJ ka do lines mein ki he wanted to persue his career in music

Makers are obsessed with Yuvika still whatever they shows regarding DJ & Neil that's only because BOTH DJ & Neil are their MALE LEADS!

Undoubtedly Yuvika is the main lead and if you compare her DJ is supporting.

He is the villian of the story. No story will have the villian over hero.

The importance of DJ is because he is main person against Yuvika. Had it not been the case he would also have been secondary.