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hey everybody,

this topic is about the women of ramayana..its all about how every woman played some important role in the ramayana..here are some of the important women-( in the order of the happennings in the ramayana)

1. manthara- without her there would be no poisoning of kaikeyi's mind

2. kaikeyi- the 'nindita naayika' or the 'defamed heroine' who played the key role of asking for the two boons( it is also said tht kaikeyi had an encounter with ravan when she was the charioteer for dasharatha and when ravana's arrow struck dasharatha kaikeyi became furious and swore tht the raghuvanshis would one day become the cause for the destruction of the asura clan and she initially trained the 4 princes in warfare before sending them maharishi vasishta)

3. surpanakha- the one who caused all the havoc which in turn lead to ravana abducting sitaji

4.mata shabari - she helps rama to get the adress of sugreeva

5. swayamprabha- she helps the vanaras to get to the sea-shore to search for sitaji

6.sitaji / vedavati- because of whom the rakshasas were destroyed from the phase of the earth

trijata-heres some info on trijata-

she was the daughter of the righteous and wise vibheeshana . Born as an ogress she was a soft-hearted and caring lady. When sita was brought as a captive to the ashok vatika all the other ogresses tortured her and tried to persuade her to accept on ravan's orders , but on the other hand trijata was the only one who dared to support sita. She used to get fruits and tubers from vibheeshana's house ( sathvik food ) for sita as sita did not want to eat anything else when lord rama ate the same.
trijata is mainly known in all versions of the ramayana for the dream she perceived duting the 'sundar kand' before hanuman sets lanka on fire. the dream goes like this-
Ravana, applied oil to his body, with disturbed hair, was proceeding southwards, on a chariot driven by donkeys. He was surrounded by Kumbhakarna and other Rakshasas, with disturbed hair, and without clothes. All are proceeding towards south. Vibheeshana, decorated with white flowers, with a white umbrella, was sitting on a white hill with his ministers.

she also saw rama.Rama was going on a big elephant along with Lakshmana consuming sweet milk.

this dream gave solace to sita who was agonized by the ogresses there and was also going through a traumatic phase thinking wether rama would get to know about her where-abouts.

here is the detailed version of the dream-
Rama wearing white garlands and clothes passing through the sky, Himself ascending a palanquin made of ivory tied with a thousand swans, arrived along with Lakshmana. Now it has been seen by me in the dream that Seetha also wearing white clothes was sitting on a white mountain surrounded by the ocean."

"Seetha came together with Rama like the light with the Sun. Rama also was seen by me to be mounted on a great elephant with four tusks and equalling a mountain and Rama wandered together with Lakshmana. Thereafter shining with their own radiance, wearing white garlands and clothes, those two best among men Rama and Laksmana neared Seetha."

"Thereafter Seetha rested on the upper part of back of elephant in the sky; taken by Her husband Rama to the front of that mountain. Thereafter it has been seen by me that Seetha with eyes like lotuses has risen up from the lap of Her husband and gently touched the Moon and the Sun with Her hand."

"Thereafter that best elephant ascended by those princes Rama and Lakshmana and by Seetha with wide eyes stood on the top of Lanka. Rama together with wife Seetha, Himself came here in a chariot tied with eight white bulls. The valorous best among men Rama together with brother Lakshmana and with Seetha ascended wonderful Pushpaka aeroplane equalling the Sun, went in the northern direction. Rama with strength equalling that of Lord Vishnu, born in Raghu's dynasty together with brother Lakshmana and with Seetha has been seen by me thus in the dream.

"Rama with great glory is not possible to be defeated by Suras or by ogres or by others like heaven not being conquerable by sinners. Ravana also was seen by me on earth sprinkled with oil, with red clothes, with garlands tied with Oleander flowers, drinking oil and intoxicated. Now Ravana fallen down on to earth from Pushpaka aeroplane having the head shaved, wearing black clothes again was seen to be pulled by a woman."

"Wearing red garlands and unguents, drinking oil, laughing, dancing, with a confused mind, with agitated senses, Ravana went by a chariot tied by donkeys. Undertaking southern direction, Ravana went quickly by a donkey. Again it was seen by me that the king of ogres Ravana stupefied with fear, fell down from the donkey with head down."

"That Ravana rising up quickly, together with perplexity, distressed with fear, excited by passion, being naked, like a mad man, prattling many bad words, entering dirt with a bad smell, which was intolerable, horrible, dark, like the hell and quickly sank in that."

"A woman with red clothes, who was black, with body smeared with dirt, tying Ravana by the throat, was pulling him in southern direction. In that dream the ogre Kumbhakarna has been seen thus by me. All Ravana's sons have been seen to be sprinkled with oil. Ravana by a pig, Indrajit by a porpoise, Kumbhakarna by a camel set out in southern direction."

"Among those Vibhishana is the only one who has been seen by me to be having a white umbrella, wearing white garlands and clothes and anointing body with white unguents. Vibhishana is there adorned with the sound of conch shells and kettledrums, with dances and songs, ascended a best elephant equalling a mountain with the sound of a thundering cloud, with four tusks. He approached the sky together with four ministers"

"An assembly also of ogres drinking oil and wearing red garlands, with red clothes, with the sound of songs and musical instruments has been seen by me. This beautiful city of Lanka has also been seen together with horses and elephants with broken gates and arches fallen down in the ocean."

"Lanka protected by Ravana has been seen by me in the dream to be burnt by a quick Vanara who is a messenger of Rama. In Lanka horrible with ash, all ogresses were drinking oil, laughing heartily with a great noise and also dancing a lot. All these best among ogres such as Kumbhakarna and others taking a red cloth entered a hole filled with cow dung

from all this we get to know how vital a role women played in ramayana..please post your views on this topic 😊

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Yeah, women did play an important role in Ramayana.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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well always womens are the main cause like in ramayan u mentioned very beautifully, in the same way Mahabharat happened coz of taking revenge for Draupadi, always inmovies villain kidnap heroine or something related to heroine and story continues...

well thanks i didnt knew all this abt kaikeyi,so this shows intention of some bad is not always bad...
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Posted: 17 years ago
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wow!! what a great thought vasihanavi !!!

it's all becaz of kaikyey & manthra our RAM-SITA & LAKSHMAN got exile ,from tht day only the separation story of RAM-SITA BEGAN .



SITAJI,URMILA,KAUSHLAYA,SUMITRA they all were great souls & they are such great inspirations for all of us .

vasihnavi it will be great if u write something terrific abt these great ladies also ,i know SITAJI,URMILA,KAUSHLAYA HV been discussed for a number of times but every member has their own ways of paying tribute to these great ladies.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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yep..i'll try my best to find some info..and yes..if anyone wants to make a mention of other great women in the ramayana please do..and if someone could get info abt the 5 main pativrathas of ramayana please do.
@ rupali..ur rite..kaikeyi has grey shades to her character neither good nor bad 😳
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Posted: 17 years ago
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vaishanavi it wud be great if u add THE RAKSHASI TRIJATA.
she was a great soul & the only monster woman who helped SITAJI at ravan's imprisonment ,SITAJI used to call trijata rakshasi as her mother !!!

trijata is even worshipped ,actually trijata was a saint inspite of being a monster just like vibhishan .
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Posted: 17 years ago
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yes sita..i totally forgot about her..i felt tht i had forgotten somebody 😕 ..n yes..sitaji used to call her mother because trijata treated sitaji like her own daughter..will surely post some info on her 😊 😳
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Posted: 17 years ago
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ya they did
but i hate manthra 😡
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Posted: 17 years ago
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calm down ekta dear 😆 ..woh bhi prabhu ki leela hi thi 😊
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hey..like i promised..heres some info on trijata-

she was the daughter of the righteous and wise vibheeshana . Born as an ogress she was a soft-hearted and caring lady. When sita was brought as a captive to the ashok vatika all the other ogresses tortured her and tried to persuade her to accept on ravan's orders , but on the other hand trijata was the only one who dared to support sita. She used to get fruits and tubers from vibheeshana's house ( sathvik food ) for sita as sita did not want to eat anything else when lord rama ate the same.
trijata is mainly known in all versions of the ramayana for the dream she perceived duting the 'sundar kand' before hanuman sets lanka on fire. the dream goes like this-
Ravana, applied oil to his body, with disturbed hair, was proceeding southwards, on a chariot driven by donkeys. He was surrounded by Kumbhakarna and other Rakshasas, with disturbed hair, and without clothes. All are proceeding towards south. Vibheeshana, decorated with white flowers, with a white umbrella, was sitting on a white hill with his ministers.

she also saw rama.Rama was going on a big elephant along with Lakshmana consuming sweet milk.

this dream gave solace to sita who was agonized by the ogresses there and was also going through a traumatic phase thinking wether rama would get to know about her where-abouts.

here is the detailed version of the dream-
Rama wearing white garlands and clothes passing through the sky, Himself ascending a palanquin made of ivory tied with a thousand swans, arrived along with Lakshmana. Now it has been seen by me in the dream that Seetha also wearing white clothes was sitting on a white mountain surrounded by the ocean."

"Seetha came together with Rama like the light with the Sun. Rama also was seen by me to be mounted on a great elephant with four tusks and equalling a mountain and Rama wandered together with Lakshmana. Thereafter shining with their own radiance, wearing white garlands and clothes, those two best among men Rama and Laksmana neared Seetha."

"Thereafter Seetha rested on the upper part of back of elephant in the sky; taken by Her husband Rama to the front of that mountain. Thereafter it has been seen by me that Seetha with eyes like lotuses has risen up from the lap of Her husband and gently touched the Moon and the Sun with Her hand."

"Thereafter that best elephant ascended by those princes Rama and Lakshmana and by Seetha with wide eyes stood on the top of Lanka. Rama together with wife Seetha, Himself came here in a chariot tied with eight white bulls. The valorous best among men Rama together with brother Lakshmana and with Seetha ascended wonderful Pushpaka aeroplane equalling the Sun, went in the northern direction. Rama with strength equalling that of Lord Vishnu, born in Raghu's dynasty together with brother Lakshmana and with Seetha has been seen by me thus in the dream.

"Rama with great glory is not possible to be defeated by Suras or by ogres or by others like heaven not being conquerable by sinners. Ravana also was seen by me on earth sprinkled with oil, with red clothes, with garlands tied with Oleander flowers, drinking oil and intoxicated. Now Ravana fallen down on to earth from Pushpaka aeroplane having the head shaved, wearing black clothes again was seen to be pulled by a woman."

"Wearing red garlands and unguents, drinking oil, laughing, dancing, with a confused mind, with agitated senses, Ravana went by a chariot tied by donkeys. Undertaking southern direction, Ravana went quickly by a donkey. Again it was seen by me that the king of ogres Ravana stupefied with fear, fell down from the donkey with head down."

"That Ravana rising up quickly, together with perplexity, distressed with fear, excited by passion, being naked, like a mad man, prattling many bad words, entering dirt with a bad smell, which was intolerable, horrible, dark, like the hell and quickly sank in that."

"A woman with red clothes, who was black, with body smeared with dirt, tying Ravana by the throat, was pulling him in southern direction. In that dream the ogre Kumbhakarna has been seen thus by me. All Ravana's sons have been seen to be sprinkled with oil. Ravana by a pig, Indrajit by a porpoise, Kumbhakarna by a camel set out in southern direction."

"Among those Vibhishana is the only one who has been seen by me to be having a white umbrella, wearing white garlands and clothes and anointing body with white unguents. Vibhishana is there adorned with the sound of conch shells and kettledrums, with dances and songs, ascended a best elephant equalling a mountain with the sound of a thundering cloud, with four tusks. He approached the sky together with four ministers"

"An assembly also of ogres drinking oil and wearing red garlands, with red clothes, with the sound of songs and musical instruments has been seen by me. This beautiful city of Lanka has also been seen together with horses and elephants with broken gates and arches fallen down in the ocean."

"Lanka protected by Ravana has been seen by me in the dream to be burnt by a quick Vanara who is a messenger of Rama. In Lanka horrible with ash, all ogresses were drinking oil, laughing heartily with a great noise and also dancing a lot. All these best among ogres such as Kumbhakarna and others taking a red cloth entered a hole filled with cow dung

hope you all liked it..this dream will also be shown in the sagars ramayana..it was shown in the previous ramayan too.

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