Like always [DT Note: pg-11] - Page 6

Originally posted by: Noorain13

When Abhi cries for Abhir, he’s in pain because he’s the best father and is wronged by everyone.

When Akshara cries for Abhir, it’s karma hitting for hiding Abhir’s truth and she deserves it.

When Abhinav cries for Abhir, it’s OTT he’s not even the real father, he’s the fake father who stole Abhir from Abhi and for selfish reasons manipulated Akshara and Abhir to be with him all these years.

Can someone tell my why Abhi was crying in the episode? I’m thinking because he got rejected and he can’t take rejection but please let me know if it was for something else.

Manjari-abhi relationship was beautiful. She was abused, yes only manjari was abused, physically and mentally in her marriage, and her child had to witness it and bear the pain which seems incomprehensible for whatever reasons. It is beautiful becos they were there for each other, loyally might I add, through pain. And still stand by each other’s emotions. Abhi, she talks to her and ensures she understands her mistakes. We have seen both of them apologizing. This is character growth. Harsh apologizing for his abuse is also character growth. To quote your last line, concern is one thing, but crossing boundaries is another and not agreeable.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

I didn't make fun of Abhinav for crying because he is a man, but because that scene was kinda funny with him putting water over himself. My comment and I think a lot of comments was about that scene, not about why he is crying for something. It wasn't to invalidate whatever pain Nav felt. And that's my point, why make a post just to invalidate a character's pain and say it's not real? There is no evidence for why it's not real.

Seriously, the Manjari-Abhi relationship is special and beautiful. I am not saying Manjari isn't a crazy person cause she is and does crazy stuff all the time. But she alone loves her son, and no one in the show is shown to love him selflessly. Everyone else has some use for him, and then they drop him when he needs them. So showing his mother in his corner and growing increasingly crazy trying to protect his emotions makes sense.

And btw Manjari apologized for her mistake of keeping Ak from Abhir already, so what is the point of bringing that up again and again?

Her apology is like katapaa asking sorry from bahubali after stabbing him….it makes nosense at all

Originally posted by: Ekahriz

The victim card game has started. Like always Abhimanyu Birla has started playing his victim card. The kid wants to stay with his parents. Abhimanyu to start with the victim card gives the kid to his parents. So, Ruhi doesn't matter to him? All that matters to him is a kid with his blood running in them calling him papa. In that sense, Abhinav is a much better father.

Also, even Sharma's didn't do these much over drama after losing Abhir's custody and they have raised him for 6 years. I could feel Akshara's pain, but this guy like what even is this?! I hope there won't be a stupid argument here saying that's because Abhimanyu loves Abhir more. 😁

And again, this Abhimanyu never had a grown up life or what? I mean who controls their almost middle aged son like this? Manjari needs to know where he is at almost all the time. She weeps like she lost something because her grown ass son comes home drunk one day? Imagine living with a mother like that for all your life. With her breathing down your neck, nudging you towards all what she decides for you. It is definitely a very unhealthy co-dependent relationship. Also, Manjari at the same time expected Akshara to stay away from her 6 year old son? What is this woman even?

Oh God! I can't even talk about Abhimanyu's drama. He hasn't gone through an ounce of pain Akshara went through, throughout her life. How do we even compare her situation when she was thrown out of her house by this same dude who's crying like he lost his favourite toy. There wasn't half the sympathy for her.

I think it should be in the Manjari's side of genes. Mother-son duo is definitely good at playing victim cards.

Also, Manjari has the audacity to say "You know only to give pain, Akshara". Seriously, woman? What have you and your son given her? Bucketful of rainbows and cotton candy? Lol. Yeh mother - son.

I am also hating this track where they are trying so hard to whitewash Abhimanyu without really making him apologise to the shit he put Akshara through.

Also, hate Akshara and Abhinav for starting the jaap Abhimanyu is an better/amazing person than us. What the hell has he done? Let his son go because the said son is not happy with him? Isn't that basic decent thing a human being/parent can do? I can't even.

This is the exact reason I stopped sympathizing at all with AB after custody. The guy can't handle one day of losing Abhir, but when he won custody he was like "I went to court so that Akshnav can win".. Lol lol lol.

I'd written it back then too that AB's ckt graph just makes him come across as someone who either doesn't have full grasp of potential consequences or no will to face the consequences.

Him & his mother have the worst combination of traits - Hypocrisy & Victim playing.

There's no winning with such people. They'll always come off as the more wronged party and the other side will always end up as the aggressor or perpetrator even when that's not the case.

Let go the adults even Abhir didn't behave this way on bring separated from his parents & home. The way even a 7 yr old kid isn't spared from feeling such guilty and burden for breaking Dr. Birla's golden heart only bcos he stated his heart's genuine wish Good luck to the kid & Akshara when they'll return to this guy n his mum.

Originally posted by: Ekahriz

The victim card game has started. Like always Abhimanyu Birla has started playing his victim card. The kid wants to stay with his parents. Abhimanyu to start with the victim card gives the kid to his parents. So, Ruhi doesn't matter to him? All that matters to him is a kid with his blood running in them calling him papa. In that sense, Abhinav is a much better father.

Also, even Sharma's didn't do these much over drama after losing Abhir's custody and they have raised him for 6 years. I could feel Akshara's pain, but this guy like what even is this?!

And again, this Abhimanyu never had a grown up life or what? I mean who controls their almost middle aged son like this? Manjari needs to know where he is at almost all the time. She weeps like she lost something because her grown ass son comes home drunk one day? Imagine living with a mother like that for all your life. With her breathing down your neck, nudging you towards all what she decides for you. It is definitely a very unhealthy co-dependent relationship. Also, Manjari at the same time expected Akshara to stay away from her 6 year old son? What is this woman even?

Oh God! I can't even talk about Abhimanyu's drama. He hasn't gone through an ounce of pain Akshara went through, throughout her life. How do we even compare her situation when she was thrown out of her house by this same dude who's crying like he lost his favourite toy. There wasn't half the sympathy for her.

I think it should be in the Manjari's side of genes. Mother-son duo is definitely good at playing victim cards.

Also, Manjari has the audacity to say "You know only to give pain, Akshara". Seriously, woman? What have you and your son given her? Bucketful of rainbows and cotton candy? Lol. Yeh mother - son.

I am also hating this track where they are trying so hard to whitewash Abhimanyu without really making him apologise to the shit he put Akshara through.

Also, hate Akshara and Abhinav for starting the jaap Abhimanyu is an better/amazing person than us. What the hell has he done? Let his son go because the said son is not happy with him? Isn't that basic decent thing a human being/parent can do? I can't even.

So a father crying for his son is also a problem now because it is Abhimanyu. He shouldn’t and can’t even be sad. It was ok when Akshara and Abhinav cried and expressed their sadness on losing custody, but if Abhimanyu cries he is playing victim card.

I dint realize AK died after manjari’s talk. She seems quite happy in her Kasauli house as she claims and seems to have got her son back and even celebrate it. To the extent of again calling him sharmaji in private, clearly neither by court nor by manjari’s actions, she was stabbed to death.. if she is pretending to be happy but dead inside, that’s another story altogether as it invalidates her current happy life as well!

Kid may want anything, it does not means parents also loose their IQ.

Akshara case's is a perfect example

Abhimanyu divorced her, after aimlessly roaming on the roads, climbed a bus and embarked a new life. When Manish Goenka went to bring his grand daughter back she refused to come.

Similarly during pre teen phase Aarohi went yada yada on Akshara.

Goenka's did nothing.

Children shouldn't make their parents dance, they should some amount of fear, discipline also.

Akshara Goenka and Abhimanyu Birla are textbook examples of bad parenting. Akshara getting humiliated by Aarohi, Abhimanyu fighting with his father has resulted in disaster.

They clearly took decisions only to harm each other.

Wrt to custody,

Abhimanyu divorced, he said no I don't want to do anything with Akshara or her child.

Fair, enough did he give in writing on stamp paper, get the document attested by a notary.

Legally Abhir case should go for joint custody, even out of court settlement is applicable in Sharma vs Birla custody case

DKP is just thriving on negative publicity to increase episode count.

This is certainly not the way to handle sensitive issues thru a story.

Originally posted by: Harry-potter

reply: and when did he actually forced abhir. If he wanted he could have forced abhir with him cause he won the custody but he didn't. He let him go. Now he is feeling pain so he is crying. As far as I know he didn't even know today that abhir has came. He thought it was a dream.

Furthermore can't a man cry if he feels the pain.

Why r the rules different when Abhinav cries ? And am ok with men crying. They can feel the pain too.Why is it different and everyone should feel the pain when Mr.Selfish Birla the great cries? It looked very funny holding that teddy and running ,Abhir is only with him for a week or 2.

He won the custody only on the basis of money ,so he forced n snatched Abhir from his mom/parents. Even after noticing Abhir is unhappy in BH he never even thought of sending him back ,he also said he will fight in HC for his rights. And supported his mom’s evil acts saying only because of her his son is with him. Am not saying he should not feel the pain or he is wrong in thinking to spend time with Abhir but he should give some time and space to the kid to accept,. Today he is behaving childish and stupid and wanting to die ?seriously? Even Ak didn’t do so much drama when she lost the custody.

Ruhi is not something to heal his pain . Ruhi is his responsibility. Idk why things are forgettem in itv as per convenience but as you remember dying Neil took promise from both ak and abhi to take care of his baby but only abhi did and ak...I don't think even she remembers.

Yeah right iDK how things are conveniently forgotten , they showed Ruhi is the one who healed him from the pain.. but now unfortunately he prioritises his blood over Ruhi.

Yeah If parents have 2 kids and something happens to 1 kid they will be sad and broken but won’t drink and go die ,they will also think of the other kid but Mr.selfish Birla’s only priority is his own Khoon ,he hurt Ruhi very badly in the summer camp too prioritising Abhir. And now today without caring for her love or thinking about her he is ready to end his life ?what happened he conveniently forgot Neil’s promise ?

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Post edited to remove portions flouting IF COC

Woah there you have to be careful with what you are saying. Being suicidal doesn’t equal to someone lacking maturity- just saying be careful what you state or it can taken the wrong way. The guy was drunk, meaning he is not in his sense. People do crazy things while drunk. After Akshara lost custody, she was imagining Abhir outside the court and also fell on the floor remember? Also, she was walking towards where pots were thrown and everyone around her was staring and was calling her crazy. How can people not see that makers made Abhi today a parallel to Akshara after losing custody. She also said how am I supposed to survive without Abhir despite getting weekend visitations.

Originally posted by: Aashiqanafan

The over the top crying on the roadside and going for suicide can be attributed to his lack of maturity. He is not capable of leading a balanced life and cannot think beyond himself ( not even Ruhi ).

Every person or in this case character is different - each with their own story and needs which shapes and defines their equations with others. No one in this world can be an absolute authority on how a relationship should be! Its up to the two people involved to determine what is best for them. And any spouse or partner has the freedom to accept it or break up if they can’t make it work with the spouse or in laws!

I am open minded but also very desi and I do not accept this western ideology of labeling behavior and people at every turn! It only makes one prejudiced and closed-minded.

FYI:

Pseudo-diagnosis:

A form of undiagnosis similar to non-diagnosis in which the clinician persuades (or attempts to persuade) the patient that they have diagnosed them when they have not in fact done so. This can include practices such as giving an elaborate medicalized or jargon name to the lack of a diagnosis.