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Yes we do, but sometimes some mistakes are not easy to forgive, specially for a wife who trusts her husband blindly.

She will live in the doubt that if he could do it once will he do it again, not a easy thing to forgive even with professional help.

And she might have also forgiven him had the last year and Arnav’s divorce decision not happened"

So if he was aware that it was not Khushi in the drunken state..then this relationship has no future? And this crime becomes bigger because of his behavior of last year ?Ok.

Here is my viewpoint. I personally think each relationship is unique and there is no universal truth of what can still survive and thrive.

Nor is every ONS or even affair same. (This story ONS is case in point..irrespective of he remembering and doing the act).So but let us stick to what we know in this story.

I have not changed my harsh view of Arnav from my first comment. It matches what Khushi said to him today. His actions and behavior of not sharing and taking decisions for her comes across as entitled,arrogant and full of self love. Stonewalling rather than having a discussion about kids. And all choicest adjectives I have used for Arnav and becoming popular with others.

I felt it shows disrespect when you dont tell your wife about divorce. His supporting La pregnancy and ignoring Khushi..does appear that he has is priority messed up and she is in the bottom of his list.

Khushi is drawing conclusions based on bare facts that she knows.

She is not privy to his will change after pregnancy scare..where all goes to her and her future children. She does not know why he waited to get her from her town. She does not really know all that happened that night. She does not know about Aman investigation...Or the his "demons"

The most important that her relationship of a decade is not a lie. Someone has to tell her. If not Arnav..who then?

Let see what else is in store for the two. This is day 1 . Maybe like her (even after all this, I thought of you, she said) ..he will at some point lay himself bare and show his vulnerability and how much he needs and loves her.

And she can then decide what she wants and if it is enough.

Or maybe he will never share and AGAIN decide for her that he is not good enough for her. ! Given his laundry list of misdeeds

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

I don’t think it even matters to the story that the area is grey.

arnav himself is convinced that he was wrong. Now he has convinced Khushi too. Let’s say Aman comes up and tells him his drink was spiked. Arnav will still have these memories where he knew it wasn’t Khushi and according to him he didn’t say no enough times.

So the damage is already done. The more I think the more I believe is that Arnav has already declared himself guilty.

It also speaks a lot about his behaviour towards self. The way he has behaved with Khushi in the last months was not normal. Him not being able to even be in the same room did not emerge from any hatred towards Khushi. It emerged from his hatred towards himself. I know after reading Khushi’s pov all of us have forgotten it but he has been his harshest critic on this whole Lavanya episode. His behaviour on the Nepal trip was a proof of that. Him believing that Khushi didn’t deserve to be married to someone like him is a proof of that.

So I am choosing to let this topic go because my heart hurts for him. No human, male or female should ever be subjected to inappropriate touches. Let’s say he walked out towards the end and did not give in. Would that make it okay that Lavanya kissed him repeatedly against his wishes? What if it was a girl in his place? In my mind, he has been violated and it’s a very sensitive topic.

But in the story, it doesn’t matter anymore because Arnav is already guilty in his eyes. And he is more than willing to endure the punishment. He had slightest of hope that Khushi may forgive him for this too because her letter has really shook him. But now that Khushi has confirmed she can’t forgive him for this, I know that he won’t forgive himself either.

so at the end of the day what I think of him doesn’t matter. He already thinks the worst of himself. It has already been said here enough times. It hurts more when mighty falls from pedestal. And he holds himself to inhuman standards. He always has.

I am crying again as I type this. But the more I read this chapter the more I realise that this whole pain that I felt from Khushi was from Arnav’s eyes. Arpita di confirmed too. We are feeling this distraught for Khushi because Arnav gave words to the anguish she went through. We actually felt what he felt and I cannot imagine how disappointed he is in himself when we are unable to read through Khushi’s pain.

He was unable to stand straight after reading her letter. He is not going to be able to live with the guilt of realising what he has realised in last chapter. The way his character has been drawn up, now I’m sure that he is going away. Maybe for good. Because at the end of the day, his love, however twisted it was, did not hold a candle to Khushi’s love and he knows that now. He is going to dissolve in the background and we already have someone new for Khushi.

this is it. I’ve never cried while writing a comment but this is just giving me clarity on what both these beloved characters went through.

Arnav does have a bad habit of being judge jury and executioner. And he may have done this to Khushi but he did it to himself too. He is ready to hang himself too without giving a chance for explanation and I think this FF here has finally pushed me over the edge. I don’t think I have words left after the last two chapters.

I think you have summed up everything about it from my POV too. doesn't matter what aman finds or does not find, arnav is going to hold himself responsible forever for this. even if khushi forgives him in future he is not going to forgive himself

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

I don’t think it even matters to the story that the area is grey.

arnav himself is convinced that he was wrong. Now he has convinced Khushi too. Let’s say Aman comes up and tells him his drink was spiked. Arnav will still have these memories where he knew it wasn’t Khushi and according to him he didn’t say no enough times.

So the damage is already done. The more I think the more I believe is that Arnav has already declared himself guilty.

It also speaks a lot about his behaviour towards self. The way he has behaved with Khushi in the last months was not normal. Him not being able to even be in the same room did not emerge from any hatred towards Khushi. It emerged from his hatred towards himself. I know after reading Khushi’s pov all of us have forgotten it but he has been his harshest critic on this whole Lavanya episode. His behaviour on the Nepal trip was a proof of that. Him believing that Khushi didn’t deserve to be married to someone like him is a proof of that.

So I am choosing to let this topic go because my heart hurts for him. No human, male or female should ever be subjected to inappropriate touches. Let’s say he walked out towards the end and did not give in. Would that make it okay that Lavanya kissed him repeatedly against his wishes? What if it was a girl in his place? In my mind, he has been violated and it’s a very sensitive topic.

But in the story, it doesn’t matter anymore because Arnav is already guilty in his eyes. And he is more than willing to endure the punishment. He had slightest of hope that Khushi may forgive him for this too because her letter has really shook him. But now that Khushi has confirmed she can’t forgive him for this, I know that he won’t forgive himself either.

so at the end of the day what I think of him doesn’t matter. He already thinks the worst of himself. It has already been said here enough times. It hurts more when mighty falls from pedestal. And he holds himself to inhuman standards. He always has.

I am crying again as I type this. But the more I read this chapter the more I realise that this whole pain that I felt from Khushi was from Arnav’s eyes. Arpita di confirmed too. We are feeling this distraught for Khushi because Arnav gave words to the anguish she went through. We actually felt what he felt and I cannot imagine how disappointed he is in himself when we are unable to read through Khushi’s pain.

He was unable to stand straight after reading her letter. He is not going to be able to live with the guilt of realising what he has realised in last chapter. The way his character has been drawn up, now I’m sure that he is going away. Maybe for good. Because at the end of the day, his love, however twisted it was, did not hold a candle to Khushi’s love and he knows that now. He is going to dissolve in the background and we already have someone new for Khushi.

this is it. I’ve never cried while writing a comment but this is just giving me clarity on what both these beloved characters went through.

Arnav does have a bad habit of being judge jury and executioner. And he may have done this to Khushi but he did it to himself too. He is ready to hang himself too without giving a chance for explanation and I think this FF here has finally pushed me over the edge. I don’t think I have words left after the last two chapters.

Khushi needs to know she was not replaced by Arnav even for a fleeting second.

It’s always important.

And why are we jumping to conclusion that the new entry is going to be her romantic interest, let’s just trust our writer. He can be just someone who will eventually help Khushi and may be Arnav too.

So let’s understand more about the night from the person who orchestrated it and who was more sober out of the two.

Originally posted by: tashi26

Isha everything you said matter a lot, Arnav needs to know the full truth, Khushi needs to know it too. Their relationship might not become better but that hurt and guilt of cheating will go away.

Khushi needs to know she was not replaced by Arnav even for a fleeting second.

It’s always important.

And why are we jumping to conclusion that the new entry is going to be her romantic interest, let’s just trust our writer. He can be just someone who will eventually help Khushi and may be Arnav too.

So let’s understand more about the night from the person who orchestrated it and who was more sober out of the two.

tashi,😭you and me, we are just hanging by a thread here. and i keep picturing Arpita with Big sizzers to come and cut it and push us in abyss. or may be down the western ghaats of Panchgani

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

I don’t think it even matters to the story that the area is grey.

arnav himself is convinced that he was wrong. Now he has convinced Khushi too. Let’s say Aman comes up and tells him his drink was spiked. Arnav will still have these memories where he knew it wasn’t Khushi and according to him he didn’t say no enough times.

So the damage is already done. The more I think the more I believe is that Arnav has already declared himself guilty.

It also speaks a lot about his behaviour towards self. The way he has behaved with Khushi in the last months was not normal. Him not being able to even be in the same room did not emerge from any hatred towards Khushi. It emerged from his hatred towards himself. I know after reading Khushi’s pov all of us have forgotten it but he has been his harshest critic on this whole Lavanya episode. His behaviour on the Nepal trip was a proof of that. Him believing that Khushi didn’t deserve to be married to someone like him is a proof of that.

So I am choosing to let this topic go because my heart hurts for him. No human, male or female should ever be subjected to inappropriate touches. Let’s say he walked out towards the end and did not give in. Would that make it okay that Lavanya kissed him repeatedly against his wishes? What if it was a girl in his place? In my mind, he has been violated and it’s a very sensitive topic.

But in the story, it doesn’t matter anymore because Arnav is already guilty in his eyes. And he is more than willing to endure the punishment. He had slightest of hope that Khushi may forgive him for this too because her letter has really shook him. But now that Khushi has confirmed she can’t forgive him for this, I know that he won’t forgive himself either.

so at the end of the day what I think of him doesn’t matter. He already thinks the worst of himself. It has already been said here enough times. It hurts more when mighty falls from pedestal. And he holds himself to inhuman standards. He always has.

I am crying again as I type this. But the more I read this chapter the more I realise that this whole pain that I felt from Khushi was from Arnav’s eyes. Arpita di confirmed too. We are feeling this distraught for Khushi because Arnav gave words to the anguish she went through. We actually felt what he felt and I cannot imagine how disappointed he is in himself when we are unable to read through Khushi’s pain.

He was unable to stand straight after reading her letter. He is not going to be able to live with the guilt of realising what he has realised in last chapter. The way his character has been drawn up, now I’m sure that he is going away. Maybe for good. Because at the end of the day, his love, however twisted it was, did not hold a candle to Khushi’s love and he knows that now. He is going to dissolve in the background and we already have someone new for Khushi.

this is it. I’ve never cried while writing a comment but this is just giving me clarity on what both these beloved characters went through.

Arnav does have a bad habit of being judge jury and executioner. And he may have done this to Khushi but he did it to himself too. He is ready to hang himself too without giving a chance for explanation and I think this FF here has finally pushed me over the edge. I don’t think I have words left after the last two chapters.

I don't think till date I have ever actually spilled tears reading a comment Isha. This is too heartbreaking the way you wrote this! 💔 💔 💔 💔

Originally posted by: tashi26

Isha everything you said matter a lot, Arnav needs to know the full truth, Khushi needs to know it too. Their relationship might not become better but that hurt and guilt of cheating will go away.

Khushi needs to know she was not replaced by Arnav even for a fleeting second.

It’s always important.

And why are we jumping to conclusion that the new entry is going to be her romantic interest, let’s just trust our writer. He can be just someone who will eventually help Khushi and may be Arnav too.

So let’s understand more about the night from the person who orchestrated it and who was more sober out of the two.

I’m sorry Tashi. I’m just really bummed after last two updates. It is affecting me way too much.

What you said is correct but I am looking at Arnav’s character sketch here.

This man got fired and his first sentence was “I should have seen it coming”

he holds himself to inhuman standards. He was breaking his back and still feeling guilty for the smallest of expenses on himself. Mind you, not on Khushi because he ran to get her a phone. They were expensive back then.

This was my first line. Even if Aman tells him he was drugged, the fact that he has a few memories of the night and not stopping is enough for this man to lay down his everything. This is how he has been conditioned. He was dying with the thought of letting Khushi go but he went through with that plan right? He even held himself back when he didn’t know groom was SMJ. I know that part hurt Khushi but from his POV she deserved the new man and the child.

I’m too down right now to think anything hopeful for them right now. He has lost his self respect in his eyes. It chips away at the soul of people who are just nice. And I think it’s already been established in this FF how seriously he takes doing the right thing.

so I’m just done. It’s still painful for me to think Lavanya violated him. It’s even more painful for me to think he is never going to forgive himself even if he gets to know drugs were involved. Him remembering things fleetingly were enough

Originally posted by: bakwas_serial

Yes we do, but sometimes some mistakes are not easy to forgive, specially for a wife who trusts her husband blindly.

She will live in the doubt that if he could do it once will he do it again, not a easy thing to forgive even with professional help.

And she might have also forgiven him had the last year and Arnav’s divorce decision not happened"

So if he was aware that it was not Khushi in the drunken state..then this relationship has no future? And this crime becomes bigger because of his behavior of last year ?Ok.

Here is my viewpoint. I personally think each relationship is unique and there is no universal truth of what can still survive and thrive.

Nor is every ONS or even affair same. (This story ONS is case in point..irrespective of he remembering and doing the act).So but let us stick to what we know in this story.

I have not changed my harsh view of Arnav from my first comment. It matches what Khushi said to him today. His actions and behavior of not sharing and taking decisions for her comes across as entitled,arrogant and full of self love. Stonewalling rather than having a discussion about kids. And all choicest adjectives I have used for Arnav and becoming popular with others.

I felt it shows disrespect when you dont tell your wife about divorce. His supporting La pregnancy and ignoring Khushi..does appear that he has is priority messed up and she is in the bottom of his list.

Khushi is drawing conclusions based on bare facts that she knows.

She is not privy to his will change after pregnancy scare..where all goes to her and her future children. She does not know why he waited to get her from her town. She does not really know all that happened that night. She does not know about Aman investigation...Or the his "demons"

The most important that her relationship of a decade is not a lie. Someone has to tell her. If not Arnav..who then?

Let see what else is in store for the two. This is day 1 . Maybe like her (even after all this, I thought of you, she said) ..he will at some point lay himself bare and show his vulnerability and how much he needs and loves her.

And she can then decide what she wants and if it is enough.

Or maybe he will never share and AGAIN decide for her that he is not good enough for her. ! Given his laundry list of misdeeds

Yes for me his ONS is a big thing and Arnav’s POV in this chapter is not helping either but I am not going to jump to any conclusions. If Arnav is sure he did not cheat Khushi and what happened was not in his control then Khushi may also forgive him.

But for that Arnav needs to really work on his guilt part for him and khushi both.

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

I don’t think it even matters to the story that the area is grey.

arnav himself is convinced that he was wrong. Now he has convinced Khushi too. Let’s say Aman comes up and tells him his drink was spiked. Arnav will still have these memories where he knew it wasn’t Khushi and according to him he didn’t say no enough times.

So the damage is already done. The more I think the more I believe is that Arnav has already declared himself guilty.

It also speaks a lot about his behaviour towards self. The way he has behaved with Khushi in the last months was not normal. Him not being able to even be in the same room did not emerge from any hatred towards Khushi. It emerged from his hatred towards himself. I know after reading Khushi’s pov all of us have forgotten it but he has been his harshest critic on this whole Lavanya episode. His behaviour on the Nepal trip was a proof of that. Him believing that Khushi didn’t deserve to be married to someone like him is a proof of that.

So I am choosing to let this topic go because my heart hurts for him. No human, male or female should ever be subjected to inappropriate touches. Let’s say he walked out towards the end and did not give in. Would that make it okay that Lavanya kissed him repeatedly against his wishes? What if it was a girl in his place? In my mind, he has been violated and it’s a very sensitive topic.

But in the story, it doesn’t matter anymore because Arnav is already guilty in his eyes. And he is more than willing to endure the punishment. He had slightest of hope that Khushi may forgive him for this too because her letter has really shook him. But now that Khushi has confirmed she can’t forgive him for this, I know that he won’t forgive himself either.

so at the end of the day what I think of him doesn’t matter. He already thinks the worst of himself. It has already been said here enough times. It hurts more when mighty falls from pedestal. And he holds himself to inhuman standards. He always has.

I am crying again as I type this. But the more I read this chapter the more I realise that this whole pain that I felt from Khushi was from Arnav’s eyes. Arpita di confirmed too. We are feeling this distraught for Khushi because Arnav gave words to the anguish she went through. We actually felt what he felt and I cannot imagine how disappointed he is in himself when we are unable to read through Khushi’s pain.

He was unable to stand straight after reading her letter. He is not going to be able to live with the guilt of realising what he has realised in last chapter. The way his character has been drawn up, now I’m sure that he is going away. Maybe for good. Because at the end of the day, his love, however twisted it was, did not hold a candle to Khushi’s love and he knows that now. He is going to dissolve in the background and we already have someone new for Khushi.

this is it. I’ve never cried while writing a comment but this is just giving me clarity on what both these beloved characters went through.

Arnav does have a bad habit of being judge jury and executioner. And he may have done this to Khushi but he did it to himself too. He is ready to hang himself too without giving a chance for explanation and I think this FF here has finally pushed me over the edge. I don’t think I have words left after the last two chapters.

You are right, i was thinking to myself where all of is going? Where is the end to all this miseries and angst?

Arpita in one of her comments said that it is not going to be a super long ff, but if we think of them being together at the end, then it is a long long long journey atleast at this point. Which means the story will also be long.

But if the new entry is for khushi where khushi ends up with him and arnav just goes away than the story can be finished without making it much lengthy.

I feel so depressed even while writing this.

Arnav did committed mistakes, huge ones, but i don't think he is beyond redemption yet.

Khushi being with someone else breaks my heart, not for arnav but for khushi herself. I think she can only heal if she ends up with arnav, yes may be after a break. But if she ends up with someone else she will forever look at this part of her life with tears in her eyes. I just don't want that for her. She shouldn't be shedding tears all her life looking at a part of her life where she loved someone too much.

Originally posted by: tashi26

Yes I hopes he does not shy away from showing his vulnerable self on that can help Khushi. It’s not fair to her too that she thinks her marriage of 10 years was nothing but lies.

Yes for me his ONS is a big thing and Arnav’s POV in this chapter is not helping either but I am not going to jump to any conclusions. If Arnav is sure he did not cheat Khushi and what happened was not in his control then Khushi may also forgive him.

But for that Arnav needs to really work on his guilt part for him and khushi both.

I was very bothered that he was taken advantage of. That is why I wanted the boxers not to give in !

To me it does not matter that he was drunk in a rave party..he said no repeatedly. That is violation. No matter what happened later. (Law recognizes that..and I don't have the paper I cited to you that day)

His response next day was heartfelt..so to me this ONS is not infidelity. But it may be for many and that is OK too

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

I’m sorry Tashi. I’m just really bummed after last two updates. It is affecting me way too much.

What you said is correct but I am looking at Arnav’s character sketch here.

This man got fired and his first sentence was “I should have seen it coming”

he holds himself to inhuman standards. He was breaking his back and still feeling guilty for the smallest of expenses on himself. Mind you, not on Khushi because he ran to get her a phone. They were expensive back then.

This was my first line. Even if Aman tells him he was drugged, the fact that he has a few memories of the night and not stopping is enough for this man to lay down his everything. This is how he has been conditioned. He was dying with the thought of letting Khushi go but he went through with that plan right? He even held himself back when he didn’t know groom was SMJ. I know that part hurt Khushi but from his POV she deserved the new man and the child.

I’m too down right now to think anything hopeful for them right now. He has lost his self respect in his eyes. It chips away at the soul of people who are just nice. And I think it’s already been established in this FF how seriously he takes doing the right thing.

so I’m just done. It’s still painful for me to think Lavanya violated him. It’s even more painful for me to think he is never going to forgive himself even if he gets to know drugs were involved. Him remembering things fleetingly were enough

Ashvini, Arpita decided to cut those boxers and thus our hope. 😠

She let Mala D win.

And worst of all, Arnav got r*ped. Which is so painful