Mili ji thanks a lot for your response and I agree this is like a friendly chai-biskooty catch up. The vibrant responses we get here definitely challenge or soothe our notions and thinkings.
I don't support the kabir Singh's of the world, but IMO NO doesn't definitely mean a NO forever.
No matter how strong we claim ourself to be I feel it's only the role or dimension within us which has the strength. Because I have seen very strong females not being so strong personally and very strong housewives not being so strong at work etc surprising but when I tried discussing the issue these women try to dissuade any discussion or taking action.
Also my experience in life always has been about EFFORTS and I am always warmly welcomed by failure or rejection so much that if I succeed in the first attempt that'd scare me if it's for real.
So, NO can become a YES always only needs persistent efforts.
IMO the world is full of colors not simply black and white, similarly we have vibrant emotions within us. We do not live on a flat earth where everything is straight. Even if we need to take ghee out of a container with hands, our finger needs to be bent, so always NO can be made YES but it's important to not behave in a way that's troublesome to others.
People who know me call me positive minded, optimist blah, blah, blah but to me I had nothing but HOPE the only cheapest commodity to keep me going when the going gets tough.
Similarly I don't expect Viaan to go back on his feelings when he felt so strongly for a woman for the first time in his life, just because kathaa is not in a position to consider his proposal and it's obviously clear the reasons for her rejection outweigh the chances of acceptance ATM, but change of season and change of heart is a thing of possibility.
Also kathaa probably showing interest in someone like Ehsan is a NO because Ehsan never tried making Aarav kathaa's child a part of their equation and in fact he was trying to chicken out that boy and trying to get cozy with his mom, though a child the boy for his understanding can feel sad about how his mom is being pursued. I respect Viaan for considering Kathaa's insecurities because it's easy to say she has baggage but she has a life attached to her and that little person is also looking for some comfort a bit of love and guidance, Viaan has thought about this, that's heart touching.
I find it surprising when many people here find the boy Aarav to be talking things beyond his age. But, a once terminally ill child having to live with old age adult friends, having none but his mother as family support, can grow and mature way beyond their age. Aarav must have felt the compulsion to be strong, to pretend that he has never seen his mom crying, he was not in pain until his breathlessness peaks because he knows his suffering pains his mum.
So, way Aarav and Viaan are similar backgrounds living without father and being there strongly for the mother, hence they can bond really well and Viaan can offer what Aarav needs a compassionate advising father-figure rather than someone belittling or infantilising the boy below his understanding like Ehsan.
BTW I never try to convince my Soon to be 16 year old on anything, instead I fiercely debate, for him to see my point and let time do the remaining magic for him to come back and say "MOM IS ALWAYS RIGHT"
RsRockz, I will answer here. I hope you don't mind, my friend
. There is more activity in this thread, so we can continue here.
And, please, you are welcome to pour out your heart or angst anytime
Like Kushi says, this is really like chai and debate
, So.......... I have no fear interacting with them and if needed modify my perspectives based on some thoughts that are said just in the right way, that they start making sense. So, that is all there is to tagging
@bolded part....... Hmmmmm, this is troublesome naaa....... Meaning, a no is not a no😒. You just don't know how to say an yes😭💔This concerns me a great deal. All the Kabir Singhs of the world operate on this dictum🤢unfortunately.
I am all for patiently waiting, but he can do so without announcing that to her.👎🏼 As Kushi rightly put in, this announcement will put her on the defensive, second guessing every action of hers She will be walking on egg shells constantly. What is the point in protecting her from staplers if he is setting her up for ridicule and judgments by every Tom, Dick and Harry😡for NO fault of hers?
As far as Katha goes, she is an adult, a mom of a 8 yr old. She had seen the good and bad of the world through very clear eyes. When the time comes for her and if her heart wants it, to seek out companionship, I don't think she will care much about societal pressures. I will give her enough credit to know what she wants. If she wants to stay where she is, I don't see there is anything wrong in it. If she wants companionship, there is nothing wrong in it too. She just came out of the second biggest tragedy of her life, toh, why can't she take her own sweet time to figure out what she wants. If she says she is content with her life as of now, who is he to question that? If he were a close friend or a family member, toh, I will give some credit to that.......😲
And like I said before, what if she wants Ehsan's or some other X's companionship, will Viaan be patiently explaining to her that she doesn't know what she wants😡and how he is the right one? Can we force some one to reciprocate our feelings, because " we know" what is right for them😒? Heck, I can't make my 13 yr old see my point of view most days🤔
His confession directly resulted in Teji giving her the obtuse, nonsense. Toh, kuch toh responsibility leni haina, to ask his mom to back off? How is he going to make Katha feel comfortable and secure amidst all this nonsense?
@ italicized bold........I agree with you👍🏼 in general, amongst friends, if one of them feels more than friendship, it is important to let the other person know, so they are still comfortable continuing the friendship as status quo, change or cut it off it there is enough discomfort. Here toh, she already knows about his feelings, she responded with a NO, and wanted to carry on a co-worker, boss-employee relationship. She is not asking for anything more than that. Eventually, if this turns out into a friendship naturally, so be it😎
Again, I am not refuting you, my friend, just putting out my questions😃 and where I am coming from. Fire away, I have some time today.....
@Shalzie, do you still want to read my nonsense? Let me know, if you don't, I won't take it personally😃
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