Originally posted by: Learrntowrite
Hey Swati. How have you been. I did think why would you be absent from the chat when the thread was becoming so interesting? 😂
However, in the spirit of discussion 😉, I don’t think I agree to the majority of what you said. I will lay down my arguments below.
I AM ALREADY EXTREMELY SORRY. I think my language will come off as strong because I feel very passionately about what you wrote here. I look forward to your comments and I’ve read several of them repeatedly. This is just my rebuttal with my own take.
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Regarding his stay at a rave
I think you and Arnav think on the same line. That he cheated. I disagree however.
His mistake is that he went there in the first place. But he had admitted he needed unwinding that day, needing his vacation more than the next breath. He was delusional to the point of being suicidal. It’s not usual. He was obviously not normal.
You used Akash’s words so I would use the same. He said it’s so unlike you Arnav. And Akash was not around, but his ARF staff was. He knew people there. He also gave the only explanation. That he was leaving by 11. He was leaving early. He drank alone, saw everyone getting wasted and got up to leave.
And Akash also doesn’t know the whole thing. Arnav is making it sound like he drank to oblivion but he could hold his drink couldn’t he? He talked to Lavanya perfectly coherently up until the point he actually got up to leave. HE WAS IN HIS SENSES WHEN HE GOT UP AND LEFT. HE DIDNT DRINK TO THE POINT OF OBLIVION.
Something had happened there. I am sure of a foul play. Had la not been there, he was still in his limits and he would have been back to his hotel/ resort.
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The moment he realized it was not Khushi
He was going in and out of consciousness. I think this exact moment is the reason he didn’t even suspect foul play. In his mind he must have had some control over himself while in reality he was about to fall off a damned balcony!!!
Also, this is a classic trait in people who have been violated. Self blaming. I should have done that. I should not have done that. Maybe I deserved what happened. If you read the passage again, he is not stating this fact. He is helpless. He is asking Aakash whether he should have said no more forcefully.
In reality, he had done that repeatedly. Said no. Asked for his driver. Said he wanted to go home. All I have to do is replace Arnav with a girl and the scene clears up for me.
If a girl is at a rave, tells the host she is not a fan of drug fests, is still in her senses by the time she RESPONSIBLY gets up and leave and then gets tricked into it, then ITS RAPE. plain and simple. Someone wrote it in the previous comment.
Men’s biology is different. Bodily consent here was obtained by force and fraud. Also, if Lavanya wanted to go all the way, the drugs are often laced with things that can make sexual appetite and prowess go up.
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Finding out about pregnancy lie
He did put two and two together immediately. He asked if the photos trace back to Lavanya. Aman with all his resources said a resounding NO. I think Appy di wrote it too or agreed to it. Lavanya is a celebrity. It’s not hard to believe some photographer just randomly trailed her.
You’re right here. Aman asks when are they going to bring Khushi bhabhi back. He still thinks he cheated because he had that ‘one moment of knowing it wasn’t Khushi’. Please also note he was wasted enough to not know who it was, just not Khushi.
Appy di confirmed. He still asked Aman to trail Manali. He has no reason to believe that this was not just a drunken escapade and Lavanya is now trying to milk the incident. He is rich after all. He says maybe she wants money. He is not even fathoming that somebody would go all out an orchestrate something like this. Especially when he thinks Lavanya was drunk too. His last coherent thought was a drunk Lavanya falling on his shoulders.
He is crying in the car later thinking he is UNSAFE. that there are people who went to great lengths to harm him this way. And this is when he doesn’t even know the full truth. Just the pregnancy lie. Author said so. He is used to deal with business vultures. But such an attack on personal life and reputation will leave anyone doubtful and vulnerable.
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Why did he not think Panchgani was orchestrated?
Why would he? Lavanya has been a professional with him for 6+ years. Why would he think that she suddenly developed an obsession when a more probable explanation is that both of them were drunk, had an ONS and maybe Lavanya tried to milk the incident by lying that she was pregnant. When Aman asks why do you think she lied, his first response in money and then attraction.
We, as readers know of her obsession. Arnav has no idea. He would have been a narcissistic, self centered b*stard you called him if his fursat thought would have been I’m so irresistible maybe she just wants me.
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Would he have reacted the same way if Khushi was getting impacted by la and Manali?
I think we all know the answer to it. He didn’t even know Khushi was even in the plan of la and Manali. His divorce was fixed in his head and he didn’t or didn’t even need to think on those lines.
He tells Manali not to bring in Khushi in between these dirty games. He did not retaliate for his violation but all Manali did was threaten Khushi and he lost his shit.
Even then, he tells Manali to back off and he will back off too. Manali was even trying to hold back. But she is a bigger idiot.
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Emotional cheating with Lavanya while Khushi was under the same roof
Here we have some mighty expectations from him don’t we? I think we just engaged in a discussion where bollybabe thought he was not an honourable man because he refused to extend emotional connect to a child he was about to father. While your POV scrutinised him for offering financial and mental support.
He did what a decent human being would, took up the responsibility. He has met Lavanya what, twice? Once to discuss what she decided and once to see because Manali b*tch said Lavanya couldn’t even move.
He had drawn the line since that very day. He doesn’t entertain her on the phone when she even tries to talk about babies or life in general. He is a busy man. I don’t think he was on a call with her for hours while his wife was under the same roof. He was guilty beyond shame when all Lavanya did was message and Khushi was sitting right there. I don’t think he even had it in himself. And he was too precise. Too consistent in putting Lavanya back in her place anytime she tried to do something like that.
So yeah, he is sharp enough that Lavanya’s plan failed. Even if Aman wasn’t investigating on his own and the baby was real, he had been clear on his stance and Lavanya would never get him.
There is no way on earth this is cheating. Not even emotional. Two pages back he was being berated for how Khushi will feel that he refused to emotionally be there for a child when she runs an NGO and now the same thing is being tagged as cheating. It’s like he can’t win at all.
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Not having morals for telling Khushi?
How is this him having ZERO morals in life? He was waiting for her to come back so he could tell her immediately because he was dying in guilt. He thought to the point of letting Khushi have her and his family in place before telling her so that IT BECOMES EASIER FOR HER. He admits being selfish only on one instance. That is to have his family sit once under the roof he had built with his blood sweat and tears because he is sure all of them will LEAVE him after that. That is such a sorry state to be in. Knowing you’re about to lose your whole family.
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Khushi’s reputation and marriage with Shyam
This directly counters your earlier arguments that Arnav did not need to save Khushi and she and her family were capable of doing that.
He was the one who stopped the reporters from even reaching there. Was constantly on the lookout the moment the news got leaked. Was ready to go back to Lucknow to get her back and would have gone if not from that phone call from Khushi where she says she is going to meet a guy with a child. That’s the day he cries in the car isn’t it? And all this after he knew that their hometown was not a place that’s safe for Khushi to go. She was the one who did, why was he wrong in assuming she would contribute to lead a better life in Mumbai than go back to that archaic place!
In fact, Khushi moving there had disturbed him so much that he acknowledged he needs professional help. That he can’t sleep at all. I don’t think it’s right to them call him as someone who only cared about his reputation.
He was on the other hand thinking that a legal mess was waiting and photos could leak. So Khushi should get away from this shit strorm as soon as possible.
I am sorry. I get that he had made mistakes and not communicating his demons and fears are the biggest of them all bit the analysis and words used for him here are too harsh.
Especially the ones saying he is narcissistic and has zero morals. In my opinion, he may be flawed in a million different ways, but he has our Khushi before himself and obviously has a very strong moral backbone. He wouldn’t berate himself so much otherwise.
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