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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

Hi!


Yes, I did read your comment and I agree to your analysis of both Khushi and Arnav!


Khushi, even though we havent read a lot of her thoughts in first person, but from what we have read of her from Arnav's point of view comes across as someone who is completely devoted to him and without breaking a sweat too. Effortlessly, flawlessly. Like that is the only possible way to love! Her love is almost a prayer, and it does not need Arnav's validation. It can bring anyone down to their knees, Arnav is just human. And I think on some level her utter devotion is also the reason of Arnav's massive guilt of saying no to her! The guilt that ultimately fueled the distance and the divorce. When someone loves you with their all, and you cannot give them their heart's one true wish, I don't find it hard to believe that that kind of guilt can ruin them and lead them to bad choices. This almost makes me cynical: Too much of anything is not good, not even love. And devotion perhaps should be reserved to God, and not to human beings!


And yes, thank you for answering my questions. I agree with your first answer, I guess I was so mad at Lavanya that I couldn't swallow sympathy for her even as a thought!


But the second one, I am not too sure. Yes, he is tired, jaded, but in my opinion, his lack of reaction when Aman told him that Panchgani was orchestrated, was very telling. I am now inclined to believe that he has felt unsafe even in the past. That somehow his lack of reaction on being betrayed/violated has a past demon attached to it! God, does this man need therapy!


He does need therapy ASAP. and we forgot. He did go to a therapist finally. she seemed a good one. I hope he goes again. He was willing to go with Khushi.

Appy di can confirm but i think my guess is right. He only suspects of pregnancy fake scare because its easy to believe someone would get after his money. I dont think he understands the whole Panchgani was orchestrated. He asked about photos, but Aman confirmed they dont tie back to lavanya or her team. He then asked in January to trace it back to manali personally, and i believe Aman had found nothing else it would be mentioned in the chapter.

I think he let the whole thing go because he doesnt understand the depth of la's obsession. He thinks even going to the length of obtaining a fake pregnancy report is something very evil. I dont think he would have let it go if he thought he was duped into sleeping with her.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

Hi!


Yes, I did read your comment and I agree to your analysis of both Khushi and Arnav!


Khushi, even though we havent read a lot of her thoughts in first person, but from what we have read of her from Arnav's point of view comes across as someone who is completely devoted to him and without breaking a sweat too. Effortlessly, flawlessly. Like that is the only possible way to love! Her love is almost a prayer, and it does not need Arnav's validation. It can bring anyone down to their knees, Arnav is just human. And I think on some level her utter devotion is also the reason of Arnav's massive guilt of saying no to her! The guilt that ultimately fueled the distance and the divorce. When someone loves you with their all, and you cannot give them their heart's one true wish, I don't find it hard to believe that that kind of guilt can ruin them and lead them to bad choices. This almost makes me cynical: Too much of anything is not good, not even love. And devotion perhaps should be reserved to God, and not to human beings!


And yes, thank you for answering my questions. I agree with your first answer, I guess I was so mad at Lavanya that I couldn't swallow sympathy for her even as a thought!


But the second one, I am not too sure. Yes, he is tired, jaded, but in my opinion, his lack of reaction when Aman told him that Panchgani was orchestrated, was very telling. I am now inclined to believe that he has felt unsafe even in the past. That somehow his lack of reaction on being betrayed/violated has a past demon attached to it! God, does this man need therapy!


yes the bold one is exactly why i feel arnav even though of divorce. What he kept telling others and himself that khushi will overlook herself, her happiness just for him and he didnt want that. he even tells akaash that i know she will forgive me (for lavanya) and i think he left it unsaid but what he meant was he doesnt deserve her forgiveness and felt himself unworthy of her love and devotion. He knew she will break but still forgive him and he didnt wanted that


We all agree his way was not at all right. In his mind what he wanted to do was for khushi's betterment but he made a mess of it and ultimately did the one thing he wanted to avoid. Khushi's complete breakdown


He has issues..something about bhagwanpur, children and anjali has turned him into this version. The arnav of 15-16, though was also under tremendous pressure but he was not this broken. He needs major professional help

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Ashviniv

Suddenly i feel as exhausted as Arnav...though many of the scenes we have already encountered as u mentioned they gave more clarity now that we know the background or where things stand


I read the chapter very quickly so i need to sit down, think and respond but 1 thing i would like to say


'yeyyyyy see its Aman who pointed Arnav to the fraud'. i know he is there for a reason. Also though akash and aman both pointed out the possibility that he was set up, he has dismissed that thought because he was guilty and wholly believe it was his fault.


but once he knows khushi received those photos, he will hopefully put 2 and 2 together. he had bit of suspicion and surprise on why lavanya was so clingy at the party but he still doesnt know the depth of her obsession.


Manali Gujral and lavanya kashyap..what an obsession. La's with Arnav and Manali's with lavanya. so those other photos also had valid explanation as i kept mentioning earlier. and only lavanya and manali knew they will be meeting at that spot. so they set this thing up. i have no enough galies to give this duo. To fake a pregnancy..B**ches




God i feel like dancing..all my guesses about atleast the lavanya saga are coming true


I will come back to Arnav 'The husband' later on after i digest the chapter

this is what I wanted to say to you. Like literally same thing.

So, it will be Arnav who will figure out when Khushi shows him the photos. But I am a emotional mess right now, in my car and I have an appointment.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

No so far there isn’t such a mention. It does not look like he confronted them. Because if he had, Manali would not have the gall to come to his office and threaten to leak the divorce news to Khushi!


right and thats why she thinks that i dont want ASR ton my back or something. now i really want him to put his mind to it and find out everything these 2 have done

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: tashi26

this is what I wanted to say to you. Like literally same thing.

So, it will be Arnav who will figure out when Khushi shows him the photos. But I am a emotional mess right now, in my car and I have an appointment.


hope everything is alright and you are emotional only because of the chapter and not anything else. Take care

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Posted: 2 years ago

hey guys, yeah Isha is right.


Arnav suspected La and Manali immediately and asked about the photos. but then it's not uncommon for reporters to follow celebrities. so, its believable to him that maybe they don't have anything to do with the pics since Aman could not trace it back. he is not under the impression of foul play in panchgani yet.


he got suspicious of it again in the party though and asked Aman to check on Manali. but if he would have found something it would be part of the chapter :)


he also didn't confront them. he did not want to pick up the fight. he was not in the state.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: tashi26

this is what I wanted to say to you. Like literally same thing.

So, it will be Arnav who will figure out when Khushi shows him the photos. But I am a emotional mess right now, in my car and I have an appointment.

tashi hope all okay ❤️
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

Okay. I cried again. Before work. God I am obsessed!

Coming to your chapter now. Fabulous update. I don't know how you manage to surprise us even when our guesses are on point. We guessed it would be La and Manali but now La panicked for real after the photos and Arnav suspects Manali had personally meddled in it. I hope he speaks more of it later on.

I will speak about both your characters in detail now. I don't think I have dived into what really makes them compelling for me.

I will come to Khushi first.

Can i say she is an absolute angel. First of all, there has to be a reason she is so attuned to Arnav's needs and doesn't pester him for anything. Any wife, after a certain point of time will not like that work is absorbing so much time of her husband. I know Arnav was working on starting two companies from scratch, but he himself admits to it in this chapter. Her being in the background mattered a lot. She was always his home. Where he could come back to leaving worries of the world at the doorstep.

It cannot be a coincidence. Khushi had made herself this way. Everyone who knows her, including Arnav's mother, knows that she BREATHES for her Arnav. We got a glimpse of it in the flashback early chapters. She is so concerned that he is always thinking of others that she wants to be the one who gives to him instead of demanding. We all know Arnav had some major troubles in the past and there must be a reason why he thinks Khushi is his anchor.

There are so many little snippets that show the depth of Khushi's love for Arnav, but I will take the one from her memory lane. She understands on some level that talking about kids upsets Arnav to a great degree. She is ELATED that now even his family wont pressure him for kids because she has stopped speaking about it since almost a year. She is concerned that he might feel alone. She thinks she wants nothing more than this wonderful man in her life. Her own worries forgotten behind in front of his struggles.

But she has also been hurting since a year. And pictures of such acts, placed in such a cunning order to make her feel like this was an ongoing thing must have felt like an answer. Remember? She has no answer for Arnav's behavior because he refuses to talk. This must have felt like a blow that this could be the reason he had been avoiding her for the whole year!

Arnav has felt protected around her. You-Know-Who has right. She is one thing in his life that has been untouched by negativity. Khushi's turning his first home into a livable space was symbolism. She had turned his life around, made it livable when he struggled with his demons. Her being submissive in this relationship was by choice becayse she herself says so - ARNAV HAD NEVER SAID NO TO HER!

god knows she didn't deserve what happened to her.



And Arnav! What a mightily complex creature. I feel so conflicted with him.

First of all. He IS a righteous man. No doubt about it. He had a full-blown panic attack at the thought of Lavanaya being pregnant and not once does he ask her to abort it. He feels like he has no sympathy for her and yet forces it out of himself because two women close to him have had tough pregnancies. He is ready to step up and give his name but just does not want an emotional connect with the kid. He specifically says that it's a good thing Lavanya doesn't move around in circle where being a single mom would land her in a world of trouble. But he still cautioned her to think thoroughly. he is the kind of a guy who would have married Lavanya if he was single and Lavanya was a gaon ki chhori.

He did not reveal Lavanya's name to his lawyers at first thinking of her reputation and in case the child was a false alarm.

if a man who would do so much for a stranger, pulling away from his wife who he misses terribly, then there has to be a reason. Period. he thinks he cannot tell Khushi why he hates his hometown so much so maybe he is trying to protect jis family including his parents and Khushi from something. We dont know how he got so rich suddenly. He was a struggling engineer in 2006 and he was producing a movie in 2009. I guess his software took off, but we will have to wait and see.

his first move was to safeguard Khushi's financial interest even though he was raging in panic at the thought of being a father. it makes sense. He is not a random guy. His money is always a target. There really is a lot of wealth at stake and as someone who came from a struggling background, he understands why it is important. He is so concerned and thorough that he wants to have an ironclad will because "he will not be able to help his family from the other side'. So that is why he had lawyers. I guess you left a very big hint when Khushi asked him if he had a lawyer already and he responded with "Yes Khushi but I needed to..." He was cut off in the first chapter. He completed now.

I know there has to be a reason he doesn't want to talk about children at all.

besides, he really is not a vile human being. He did not even care what Lavanya and Manli did to him. He was just so tired of it all that he let it go. Thinking he can close this chapter by ignoring it. That is why Manali B'tch must be confident that Arnav would give in to blackmail.

What she didn't take into account was that Arnav was ready to let go of all the wrongs done to him but so much as threaten his Khushi and he will hurt you where it stings the most. He neither held back his words, nor his actions. In his weird, twisted way, he does love Khushi. He just has a lot of communication problems and obvious demons in his past.

The last thing I want to point out in your story is the reality aspect of it. It is so easy for us to lose ourselves in the world of fiction and think Arnav should just go on a rampage to destroy La and Manali when they deceived him but stop and think for a moment. These were complete strangers who really tried to hurt him and his life. He has made his life with his blood sweat and tears and anyone will obviously be shaken at the realization that there are people out there who could hurt him like this. even the hero of a novel.

I am glad you showed that. More manly characters with this kind of vulnerability. He is obviously a very strong and formidable character and yet he felt unsafe. I think somewhere in his consciousness, he understands that he was taken advantage of and thus he feels UNSAFE. he cried out for Khushi while he wanted to be the one to give up the armor and her to be the knight. Which she had always been.

In awe of this story di. In awe of both the characters. I feel so much for them it hurts.



And the song you chose. Never thought i would be crying my eyes out listening to "demons' but here i am. I lost it at these two lines.


Don't wanna let you down

But I am hell-bound

Though this is all for you

Don't wanna hide the truth


and where he feels he cannot get out of this without khushi


They say it's what you make

I say it's up to fate

It's woven in my soul

I need to let you go

Your eyes, they shine so bright

I wanna save that light

I can't escape this now

Unless you show me how


pff...done. for now!




Oh wow I am at a loss. Thanks a lot ❤️


Some really nice observations there. About both the characters.


As far as Arnav's breakdown goes. I think it was inevitable. Yeah, all the strong characters who show no emotions whatsoever and are always in command may be good, but i do believe even those people have a breaking point. Arnav had been stressed since too long. News of Khushi's marriage just pushed him a little over the edge where he NEEDED to cry a little to probably feel a bit normal. He did get through some stuff. As a public figure, reputation is a big deal. It directly impacts your entire life and hard work of YEARS could be wiped out!

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Posted: 2 years ago

Thanks for clarifying, Arpita!


I understand he doesn’t know about Panchgani set up but doesn’t Aman mention that as a possibility? I wonder about his lack of reaction then! I have seen someone very close to me react when they were faced with such a possibility after the fact. Arnav’s reaction was nowhere close to that. My point is even the possibility of foul play in Panchgani should have elicited a reaction and there wasn’t any! But then again, it may just be a male conditioning to ignore the fact that you could have been violated, not sure!



The other thing is. Lavanya comes from old money. How could he possibly think that “money” is a factor in blackmail? Lavanya has generational wealth which I am sure surpasses Arnav’s!

Arnav’s dropped a lot of balls here in the thinking department but I can understand! This guy is having panic attacks, he is clearly not in the state to think clearly! He is unraveling.


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Posted: 2 years ago

Arpita for your author's noe (somehow i am not able to use quote option for it)


so yes the way the discussions caught you offguard in good way, i think many of us also feel the same. I have never been this active in any discussion so far. though i missed the golden IPK IF days but still the level of discussion, the intensity of emotions, the polite and mature way people react to other's POVs even if they are completely different from their own made me want to express myself more often than i generally want to or i can


That way i am like your arnav. i have this inability to share my deepest fears/thoughts with anyone. even my spouse. may be the cloak of anonymity that internet gives also helps. But this experience of sharing has been exhilarating. So i will say THANK YOU for giving me this platform


And yes i would like to keep in touch with everyone here even if the story ends. and arpita may be you can be instrumental there too by writing many more wonderful stories


May be a lighter one next time though. i doubt whether you or us can handle any more angst at least for this year 😃

Edited by Ashviniv - 2 years ago

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