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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sukriti4u


While your perspective is well-reasoned, I would like to tell my opinion that Akshara's choices and actions need to be understood within the context of her complex circumstances. Being a law student doesn't necessarily provide her with infallible judgment, especially when she's in emotionally charged situations. Emotions can cloud even the best judgement, and this can be even more potent when it comes to the wellbeing of a loved one.

Yes, sending Abhir away might seem cruel, but it could also be interpreted as a desperate attempt to shield him from the escalating conflict. Akshara's goal has consistently been to protect Abhir, even if her actions sometimes seem contradictory.

As for the surgery, the delay doesn't necessarily equate to a lack of concern for Abhir. Akshara could have been grappling with a difficult dilemma - the immediate physical wellbeing of her son versus the potential emotional harm of revealing the truth. Neither option is free from potential harm, making this a morally complex decision.

Concerning the legal battles, while Abhimanyu might not have initiated them, his active participation indicates his willingness to engage in the conflict. Akshara's decision to study law and be prepared to fight shows her determination to protect her son's interests. It's not necessarily a sign of aggression or confrontation.

Your final point about hypocrisy is compelling, but it's worth noting that human behavior is often filled with contradictions. People are flawed, and sometimes their actions do not align with their words or beliefs, especially under stress or duress. This inconsistency makes Akshara a more realistic and relatable character, albeit one that can be difficult to fully understand or agree with.

@bold - Agree with this part and I think it applies to all characters. However, I would use it to support Abhimanyu’s side more since he seems to be the only one right now who has been shown willing to look at his own faults, rectify them and grow as a person. People go through stress yes, but they find ways to improve and manage the situation- how long are we going to wait to see Akshara taking control of her life- the Akshara we saw in initial promos of the leap? And yes you are right - she is indeed a very difficult character to agree with. I even find Arohi more sorted and believable as a character compared to her.

Your views are very different from mine and I do not think I will agree with Akshara even if I understand her. In fact, the more I understand her motives and priorities the more I end up disliking her behavior! All characters have made poor choices in the show at some point. But a few have grown more and become wiser compared to their old selves and in my opinion Akshara doesn’t fall into that list yet. Abhimanyu is less angry, Arohi is more considerate and less selfish, but Akshara?

All leads have been shown to go through trauma and made questionable choices in their lives. When things are going smooth everyone can be an angel, its when things get tough and people are emotionally charged that the true test of their strength and character begins. Many falter - some learn from mistakes and others keep repeating them. The kind of moral dilemmas Akshara gets stuck with - would suit a fresh college graduate but not a mother of 6 year old boy. I wish I get to see a better version of Akshara someday but I am not hopeful!

But our choices seem too different to agree to each other. I would prefer characters more reasonable and logically sound than those driven mostly by emotions. Although, it would be ideal to have a character who can balance mind and heart both - but we don’t have any in this show!

Edited by DevilsHeart - 2 years ago
Posted: 2 years ago
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Everyone saying that Abhimanyu will go to jail for WD and all in real life is wrong.


I have seen worse Guys. Guys who are physically abusive and that's like the first base for them not only refusing divorce but chilling in life.


Divorce process takes time not like in shows and WD doesn't make Abhi an abuser in irl.

Like in Thappad her taking divorce was right something was wrong and ek thappad ne usko realise krwaya but banda abuser nahi tha relationship dynamics haan off the

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krinya

I thot akshu started studying law sometime in those 6 yrs but your last statement suggests that she had full knowledge of law when she called abhim and when abhir was born 😕 As if people carry the book of law everywhere with them.


Haan when she started studying law why didn't she tell abhim? Imo it served him good. His karma.

Agree!!!

Whatever happened to abhi was his KARMA and he suffered.

And whatever is happening to Akshara and Abhinav is their KARMA too. Let us let them suffer for their doings too!!!

Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krinya

My only point was that finding logic In otherwise illogical and shitty show is a bit odd to me. As if we don't know they take plenty of creative liberties and show whatever bullshit they want to . There is no law no medical practice which was shown properly ever.


I didn't mention that day anywhere I don't know why you did.


And yes , no I don't think there will be any issues with the bc of abhir unless someone like abhim challenge it.


Suppose , akshara was sleeping with 2 men at the same time and she also didn't know who the father is. She puts one name but in reality it's the other. So the only way to find out is DNA test that too if the other guy raise any objection.... Likewise , the woman can put the name of any father in fathers column and till the time it's contested its very much valid and nobody else , no authority , school, college or country will question her whose name she'd put.... .it will automatically be taken as true..... Every authority's job be it passport or school colleges tally the fathers name on the birth certificate and not go around checking if it's the real father or adopted...if there is a spelling error or mistakingly they put wrong dob or any other particular , it's the duty of the person to change it , that too , if they plan to use something else in future.


Living in this country we all know ,none of us go by the book of law.


My cousin was born in 1995 but my aunt got a bc made which showed 1994 as the birth yr so that she doesn't waste 1 yr of school. Now she uses that yr only in all her documents .


@bold I said that once that for this Akshara just have to admit that okay she was cheating on Abhimanyu.


Also, no one is expecting sense but this BC thing was shown in the episode so obviously we are talking about the things jo dikha rahe hain.

If mention hi nahi hota would have been assumptions but here they mention it.

And why is cause she herself is agreeing k haan beta abhimanyu ka hai and i hid nahi btana chahti thi.


That women is saying aj tak i haven't slept with my husband in front of all. Why do you think she will even say i was two timing. See the difference between your and my points at the moment is i am stating jo show mein hua and you are countering them with assumptions.


And yes people do follow law. I do. Obviously i may once in a while break a signal or something but I am not forging documents and anything major


Like my parents were government employees so they could not lie about the official dob of me and my brother's.


I know you will think am making it up but there was a teacher with my mother who changed the surname of her son( named it after her second husband) and one day by mistake it got opened for years inquiry was there even when the real father doesn't wanted to do anything he was happy with his family yet inquiry took place so. People do a lot of things but pakde jaane par inquiry hoti hain jo ki Akshara k upar boli gayi hai.


Plus here if Abhimanyu ko pta hi nahi chalta toh kuch hota hi nahi. But usko pta chal gya toh obviously baat khulegi

Edited by chaipaani - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Manjiri & Akshara cannot be compared.. Neil was illegitimate child of Manjiri's husband, whose mother died & he was left in an orphanage. Harsh used to physically, mentally & emotionally abuse Manjiri.Also, we have seen how much obsessed Harsh was with his image & reputation...So, her hiding truth was quite reasonable because she was afraid that Harsh might try to harm Neil. Harsh was a threat to Neil & we saw how after Neil's truth reveal, harsh started beating Neil with his belt & how much he was worried about his reputation & image.

However, Akshara's case is completely different. Abhir wasn't illegitimate child. Akshara knew how much Abhimanyu loved his kids & wanted to be a father. Abhimanyu was in no way a threat to Abhir. But Akshara not just hided the truth of Abhir's existence but also replaced Abhir's father.


Akshara has all the rights to move on but she has no right to replace father. Co-parenting is always an option. She could have just dropped a message or a voice note, if Abhimanyu refused to listen her.

Leave Abhimanyu was a bad husband or not. People take divorce even when they are not compatible but they don't snatch Or replace father. Did Anupama ask her kids to replace vanraj with Anuj, because Vanraj was a horrible husband? She advised her kids " Wo pati jaise bhi rahe ho, pita achhe hai " ... Naira, Prerna, Sona & many ITV FL they couldn't reveal the father's name but atleast didn't replace father..


What Akshara did was a cheap & well planned revenge.She hid the truth regarding her pregnancy not just from Abhimanyu but also from Goenkas,with whom she happily dances now..She even refused to take help of even her friend Priya in Kasauli but she chose to depend on a stranger..It proves that she was hiding & not taking Goenkas help intentionally...Instead,she chose to depend on a stranger..In the last 6 years,she was still in contact with Goenkas & this clearly shows she wasn't abandoned at all but she was hiding intentionally...She replaced father so that Abhir never misses his father & she can happily stay in Kasauli without the truth ever being revealed to her ex- husband. She grinds her teeth, clenches her fist & gives evil expressions whenever she sees Abhimanyu bonding with Abhir.She is completely dismissive of Abhimanyu's fatherly rights . This clearly shows her intention was neither to protect Abhir Or had any fear of her son being snatched.. Her intention was only to take revenge by replacing Abhimanyu in the life of his own son.


Movie thappad was the real portrayal of feminism. In the movie, Amrita even after filling divorce against her husband, went back to her ex- husband & revealed her pregnancy. And when her ex - husband wanted her back she clearly said we will only co- parent, revealed the truth coz I don't want to do wrong with my kid & his father but if I come back to you , I will do wrong with myself as a woman . That's courage, strength & self respect.

What Akshara did was just revenge! She took revenge of a hurt wife from a mourning father

Replacing father is morally, ethically & even legally wrong.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: chaipaani

Everyone saying that Abhimanyu will go to jail for WD and all in real life is wrong.


I have seen worse Guys. Guys who are physically abusive and that's like the first base for them not only refusing divorce but chilling in life.


Divorce process takes time not like in shows and WD doesn't make Abhi an abuser in irl.

Like in Thappad her taking divorce was right something was wrong and ek thappad ne usko realise krwaya but banda abuser nahi tha relationship dynamics haan off the

I never said all this but still I'd like to pitch in my views.


If at that time akshara filed a dv case 90%, she would have won..one FIR , and poora Birla khandan jail mei hota that's how strict the law is..they cud have got bail and all that later but case would be there If akshara chooses to fight ...mental harassment or whatever charges..charges cud be many, once a case if filed , it's done with truths mixed with lies ..I have filed one for my sil so I know. It's not about what the other party did or did not do, the girl was mentally harassed by her in laws that's it..and a woman is always heard ..pick any real life case.



Whether abhim is abusive or not , no imo but I never liked his aggression and impulsive nature. More than that my issue with him is his mom..Im not sure i can stand a mammas boy in my life..so no, none of them is toxic but they ARE toxic for each other ...amd frankly, I won't mention such words whose meaning I don't understand fully ..may be the abuse victims can tell better ..

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishqdinoorhai9


Manjiri before this leap was a character who had endured, sacrificed, loves selflessly even if it was not returned and yet shone brightly.


Her character even as an individual was way more than just an itv saas- her and her relationship with Abhimanyu had way more layers than this shit PH explored.


About Akshara, the less I say is the better- Like she could have been one amazing character but a lot of factors did not let her, so really talking about her feels useless ( esp today- I will edit this when I have the energy to rant about her lol)


About Manjiri, I hate her at times but mostly I curse the PH for ruining her ckt all for gaining sympathy for AK.


And I curse them a little more for not utilising the potential of Birlas


Manjiri & Abhimanyu's bond was one of the best things & best bond that i liked in gen 3 .


Manjiri was a victim of physical & emotional abuse in a toxic marriage & Abhimanyu being protective of her mother.. He being loving & caring son was something that i liked the most.. People may make fun of him by calling him a mumma's boy . But it's a fact that a man who cannot respect his mother cannot respect any woman. After all, charity begins at home..But Abhimanyu was always, a strong & opinionated man, who used to take his decisions by himself.. He always did what he wanted to do. Manjiri as a mother never gave him any wrong advice. She was just like any typical mother..


I genuinely liked Abhimanyu - Manjiri bond till preleap.

However, I hate that makers have completely destroyed Manjiri's character during this leap 2.0 ... They have made her so insensitive to Abhimanyu's pain. She keeps burdening him with responsibilities & even emotionally manipulates to have her way. Though she doesn't wish bad for Abhimanyu, but she always complicates things for him, in her own illusions.

I just hate DKP that just for drama & to fit that cameo, they ruined one of my most favorite bond Abhimanyu - Manjiri.. Also, I will forever remain salty for never exploring Birla family dynamics & now they have even made Parth, an abuser.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: chaipaani


@bold I said that once that for this Akshara just have to admit that okay she was cheating on Abhimanyu.


Also, no one is expecting sense but this BC thing was shown in the episode so obviously we are talking about the things jo dikha rahe hain.

If mention hi nahi hota would have been assumptions but here they mention it.

And why is cause she herself is agreeing k haan beta abhimanyu ka hai and i hid nahi btana chahti thi.


That women is saying aj tak i haven't slept with my husband in front of all. Why do you think she will even say i was two timing. See the difference between your and my points at the moment is i am stating jo show mein hua and you are countering them with assumptions.


Plus here if Abhimanyu ko pta hi nahi chalta toh kuch hota hi nahi. But usko pta chal gya toh obviously baat khulegi

I'd given an example to explain you the context of birth certificate..simply put , unless it's contested the govt doesn't give a rats ass. It was contested here so the judge gave the order to change it and whatever the procedure is , charge akshara..as simple as that...what u said in the last para , exactly that..thx for understanding.


Please I never said akshara was two timing. There was a big if behind that sentence


Also , I'm very much watching the show and I don't see anything wrong with what she did or what she said , given her circumstances. You can keep your view and i can keep mine. now that she's acting totally crazy 🤪 I don't support her but that doesn't mean I switch to a worse char like abhim bec I just can't erase the wd frm my mind..every char will have their ups and downs... You're free to keep ur choice, I never questioned why . Aapko akshu samajh nai aati mujhe koi samajh nai aata, I am doing time pass here.



Pl continue with akshara Haye Haye

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