Where does one draw the line? - Page 2

Originally posted by: dotheDrama

Sorry I disagree completely. I'm watching yrkkh from epi #1 and I don't see any butchering of characters especially to please a section of audience ... They are doing well with the leap which is reflected in the trps . Only 1 persons opinion or opinion of 20-30 doesnt matter , yrkkh is being viewed by millions of viewers in india and worldwide. What we think may seem big to us but it's not .

The premise of yrkkh and rishta vibes were killed with abhira only ..it was nothing great at that time too.

Abhira was also theirs and akhshnav is also their writing . It's not like abhira were butchered by the writers and akshara went to kasauli on her own will for which she must be bashed. They have they can and they will write abhira and all others whichever way they want. You didn't like that akshara boarded the bus , I'd say it's the best thing about s3 that she moved on from a toxic relationship .

Originally posted by: Krinya

Sorry I disagree completely. I'm watching yrkkh from epi #1 and I don't see any butchering of characters especially to please a section of audience ... They are doing well with the leap which is reflected in the trps . Only 1 persons opinion or opinion of 20-30 doesnt matter , yrkkh is being viewed by millions of viewers in india and worldwide. What we think may seem big to us but it's not .

The premise of yrkkh and rishta vibes were killed with abhira only ..it was nothing great at that time too.

Abhira was also theirs and akhshnav is also their writing . It's not like abhira were butchered by the writers and akshara went to kasauli on her own will for which she must be bashed. They have they can and they will write abhira and all others whichever way they want. You didn't like that akshara boarded the bus , I'd say it's the best thing about s3 that she moved on from a toxic relationship .

I totally respect your opinion and I believe I am allowed to have mine. I see both Akshara and Abhira as concepts of the writers. So no, I don’t differentiate. I am all in for strong female leads. And kudos to her for getting out of a toxic relationship. I am just saying that the writers could have still showed her moving on but not by compromising on her individuality. The fact that she being a therapist, could not understand her son’s behavior wanting to know about his real dad. She being an empath, has strong hate towards one thing that a character did, even after she claims to have forgotten her pre-divorce life. She having shown more importance (on multiple occasions) to her birth mother over her step mother, did not find it important to reveal the truth about her son’s real dad even after he knew half the truth. Pre-leap and post-leap Akshara are completely different. And here, it’s the very core of her character that is different. Not just traits. The writers would have had their own reasons to portray her this way. It just doesn’t sit well with me. Again, this is my personal opinion. I am not trying to convince anyone otherwise. 😊

Originally posted by: Krinya

Sorry I disagree completely. I'm watching yrkkh from epi #1 and I don't see any butchering of characters especially to please a section of audience ... They are doing well with the leap which is reflected in the trps . Only 1 persons opinion or opinion of 20-30 doesnt matter , yrkkh is being viewed by millions of viewers in india and worldwide. What we think may seem big to us but it's not .

The premise of yrkkh and rishta vibes were killed with abhira only ..it was nothing great at that time too.

Abhira was also theirs and akhshnav is also their writing . It's not like abhira were butchered by the writers and akshara went to kasauli on her own will for which she must be bashed. They have they can and they will write abhira and all others whichever way they want. You didn't like that akshara boarded the bus , I'd say it's the best thing about s3 that she moved on from a toxic relationship .

Though I only started watching after the leap ,I watched all the old episodes too! And I never felt anything special about Abhira!
In fact I am loving the way the writes are showing how a girl who immensely loved a man but was ill treated by him and made her feel their relationship as ‘UMARKHAID ‘ Now she totally forgot and ignoring her ex and moved on with a person who stood still in her tough times ! I Abhinav and Akshara are married and love each other .

I don’t see anything wrong if a girl getting second chance in her life and that too with a person like Abhinav who respects her!

Originally posted by: dotheDrama

I totally respect your opinion and I believe I am allowed to have mine. I see both Akshara and Abhira as concepts of the writers. So no, I don’t differentiate. I am all in for strong female leads. And kudos to her for getting out of a toxic relationship. I am just saying that the writers could have still showed her moving on but not by compromising on her individuality. The fact that she being a therapist, could not understand her son’s behavior wanting to know about his real dad. She being an empath, has strong hate towards one thing that a character did, even after she claims to have forgotten her pre-divorce life. She having shown more importance (on multiple occasions) to her birth mother over her step mother, did not find it important to reveal the truth about her son’s real dad even after he knew half the truth. Pre-leap and post-leap Akshara are completely different. And here, it’s the very core of her character that is different. Not just traits. The writers would have had their own reasons to portray her this way. It just doesn’t sit well with me. Again, this is my personal opinion. I am not trying to convince anyone otherwise. 😊

Not trying to change your opinion at all..we're just having a discussion which won't be like affirmative from everyone ..so pl don't mind me writing this.

Whatever you said about akshara is valid . Like abhim and all others she's being written by the same writer so I never expected some earth shattering plot and character development....whichever path she would take , she would be criticised . If she went to goenkas then also she would be heavily criticised for being a doormat to her soul lover ....manjari would have come begging within a week ke bachon ki khushiyan dekhte hain and akshu will be called arrogant and unforgiving for not letting go of her past...

If she lived independent like naira then also a section of audience would criticize her for depriving abhir of fathers love. Naira was also bashed by one and all.

..the bus she boarded and the man she married , it's natural she is being bashed bec possibility of abhira is now bleak , unless writers flip (which I think they can anytime ) ..the fact that she moved on is indigestible to some ...more than that , she deprived abhimanyu of his rights ..to each their own...I think it's only natural she keeps herself , abhinav and abhir above abhimanyus haq after how he treated her . We all wanted her to be selfish , but only for abhimanyu ..now she is selfish , she is in self preservation mode , I see nothing wrong in it.. its ok if you feel otherwise .

Originally posted by: Krinya

Not trying to change your opinion at all..we're just having a discussion which won't be like affirmative from everyone ..so pl don't mind me writing this.

Whatever you said about akshara is valid . Like abhim and all others she's being written by the same writer so I never expected some earth shattering plot and character development....whichever path she would take , she would be criticised . If she went to goenkas then also she would be heavily criticised for being a doormat to her soul lover ....manjari would have come begging within a week ke bachon ki khushiyan dekhte hain and akshu will be called arrogant and unforgiving for not letting go of her past...

If she lived independent like naira then also a section of audience would criticize her for depriving abhir of fathers love. Naira was also bashed by one and all.

..the bus she boarded and the man she married , it's natural she is being bashed bec possibility of abhira is now bleak , unless writers flip (which I think they can anytime ) ..the fact that she moved on is indigestible to some ...more than that , she deprived abhimanyu of his rights ..to each their own...I think it's only natural she keeps herself , abhinav and abhir above abhimanyus haq after how he treated her . We all wanted her to be selfish , but only for abhimanyu ..now she is selfish , she is in self preservation mode , I see nothing wrong in it.. its ok if you feel otherwise .

I am all in for having healthy discussions! I know that there are multiple plot possibilities that the writers would have taken post white day. And yes, as a woman, I would have been super offended if Akshara went back to Birla house after that day just because Manjari ya Abhimayu ne sorry kaha. I would however, be okay with her going to Goenka House and staying there till her she gave birth just to make sure she had a family support system and also because BP and BM came looking for her and were worried. After she gave birth, she could have gone her own way but still kept in touch with her family. Kairav trusted his sister when everyone falsely accused him for Anisha’s death. Why couldn’t she trust her brother to take care of her? A brother whom she loves more than anyone else and would do anything for. I am not on of those who are hoping for an Abhira re-union. Abhinav and Akshara seem to love eachother (again, the love showed up abruptly, but okay I am on board). It would be unfair to Abhinav if the writers decide to end his character since he was there for Akshara throughout her difficulties in the past 6 years (or is it 7 now?).

I wanted to keep this post unbiased towards characters, but oh well! 🤔

@bold I completely disagree. Abhimanyu, the ex husband ek taraf. But Abhimanyu, the loving father deserves to be a part of his son’s life. It’s inhumane to punish a father for a husband’s sin. Akshara herself had said multiple times that irrespective of what HB did, he will never stop being Abhimanyu’s father. How does this not apply to her own son then? And sorry for comparing HB to Abhimanyu because they are poles apart but hai toh dono papa hi na. Abhimanyu has proved to be a good father and one cannot deny that he loves Abhir and wants to just be recognized as ONE of his dads. Not even real vs step dad. I don’t see anything wrong in that. Akshara trying to phase him out of Abhir’s life is simply wrong! The custody case verdict was stupid. It should have been for joint custody instead of sole custody, would have made Abhir’s transition easier. But, ITV drama!

Originally posted by: dotheDrama

My reply in blue 😊

See there are progressive shows on ITV too. But you have to search for them. Most shows on Sony ( wid a few exceptions ofcourse ) are progressive . Their content is progressive bcz they do shorter shows. Wid shows like Yeh Rishta the problem lies in the duration. When shows are dragged for years and years....Writers are forced to write storylines which can be dragged . Also its the target audience that matters. TV targets a much broader audience than other platforms and they try to cater to all.

I get the promoting Abhira on Social media thing you mentioned. See personally I feel their endgame is still Abhira only. Dts why they still promote them. It happens wid all Starplus shows even if the couple in the show is separated.

I am not saying Akshara did everything ryt . Theres this quote which says you dont take right decisions ....you take decisions and then you work towards making them right. Akshara took some decisions in a broken , vulnerable state where she was divorced , thrown out , blamed for death of loved one , had a miscarriage and found out she still had one life inside her. So many things happening at once. Maybe her decisions were not right. But neither was her situation. I agree she should hv returned home. But she made a decision not to and later decided to make it right fr her.

Honestly I think had she returned home , story would hv gone on repeat like after the first divorce. Thats why the writers went this way. Not saying it ws perfect but they tried to be different.

Originally posted by: Krinya

Sorry I disagree completely. I'm watching yrkkh from epi #1 and I don't see any butchering of characters especially to please a section of audience ... They are doing well with the leap which is reflected in the trps . Only 1 persons opinion or opinion of 20-30 doesnt matter , yrkkh is being viewed by millions of viewers in india and worldwide. What we think may seem big to us but it's not .

The premise of yrkkh and rishta vibes were killed with abhira only ..it was nothing great at that time too.

Abhira was also theirs and akhshnav is also their writing . It's not like abhira were butchered by the writers and akshara went to kasauli on her own will for which she must be bashed. They have they can and they will write abhira and all others whichever way they want. You didn't like that akshara boarded the bus , I'd say it's the best thing about s3 that she moved on from a toxic relationship .

@ bold : I actually started this show bcz of Harshad. Initially I liked their chemistry....actually his chemistry. So I watched.

But the relationship turned so toxic so fast that I stopped watching completely. The whole Abhira relationship was so immature and unstable that it made me cringe.

Den I saw this promo one day dt Ankshara was divorced again ! I ws like wht the hell is happening in this show. Den I saw Abhinav nd honestly fr me it breathed new life into the show. The maturity and the love for family brought me back to this show.

Originally posted by: dotheDrama

I to take care of her? A brother whom she loves more than anyone else and would do anything for. I am not on of those who are hoping for an Abhira re-union. Abhinav and Akshara seem to love eachother (again, the love showed up abruptly, but okay I am on board). It would be unfair to Abhinav if the writers decide to end his character since he was there for Akshara throughout her difficulties in the past 6 years (or is it 7 now?).

I wanted to keep this post unbiased towards characters, but oh well! 🤔

@bold I completely disagree. Abhimanyu, the ex husband ek taraf. But Abhimanyu, the loving father deserves to be a part of his son’s life. It’s inhumane to punish a father for a husband’s sin. Akshara herself had said multiple times that irrespective of what HB did, he will never stop being Abhimanyu’s father. How does this not apply to her own son then? And sorry for comparing HB to Abhimanyu because they are poles apart but hai toh dono papa hi na. Abhimanyu has proved to be a good father and one cannot deny that he loves Abhir and wants to just be recognized as ONE of his dads. Not even real vs step dad. I don’t see anything wrong in that. Akshara trying to phase him out of Abhir’s life is simply wrong! The custody case verdict was stupid. It should have been for joint custody instead of sole custody, would have made Abhir’s transition easier. But, ITV drama!

Like I said going bk to the goenkas was a possibility but they didn't take that route..however, akshara kept her family in loop in these 6 years ... someday I'd like to hear why she did what she did bec that day was never discussed in detail from aksharas pov.

As for the second para about abhimanyu and his fatherhood..abhimanyu punished akshara the wife, akshara his love and akshara the mother for akshara the person so akshara punished abhimanyu the father for abhimanyu the husband . that day it was inhuman to punish a mother/ miscarried wife / lover for an empathetic panic struck woman...It's only fair .

Having said that , I agree with you her actions have been foolish from the time abhir fell sick. Firstly she should have revealed the truth to abhinav and abhir both and to the goenkas ..secondly she shouldn't have deprived abhimanyu of his rights ..only if they acted maturely , they wouldn't come to this..even now , if she wins abhirs custody again, she must make sure abhim is a part of abhirs life as his father . What I'm saying is not contradictory . I understand where she comes from but at the same time I think abhim must not be deprived of anything .it's best for abhir , they can't keep confusing him. Past is done and dusted , but future she need not repeat those mistakes

I personally think writers wrote best way that she moved on from her past and toxic relationship( husband and in laws)….atleast they didn’t show her as doormat who longs for her ex readyvto accept conditional love from inlaws…..it better to move on than have EMA/cheat….it’s better not to go back like some other serials where FL lead was bashed for going back to her ex when he was married to new ML…..they didn’t butchered her character….gave example to many women in real world….don’t take s*** from anyone especially in laws and become doormat…..move on have a better life

Originally posted by: WhtsinAname

See there are progressive shows on ITV too. But you have to search for them. Most shows on Sony ( wid a few exceptions ofcourse ) are progressive . Their content is progressive bcz they do shorter shows. Wid shows like Yeh Rishta the problem lies in the duration. When shows are dragged for years and years....Writers are forced to write storylines which can be dragged . Also its the target audience that matters. TV targets a much broader audience than other platforms and they try to cater to all.

I get the promoting Abhira on Social media thing you mentioned. See personally I feel their endgame is still Abhira only. Dts why they still promote them. It happens wid all Starplus shows even if the couple in the show is separated.

I am not saying Akshara did everything ryt . Theres this quote which says you dont take right decisions ....you take decisions and then you work towards making them right. Akshara took some decisions in a broken , vulnerable state where she was divorced , thrown out , blamed for death of loved one , had a miscarriage and found out she still had one life inside her. So many things happening at once. Maybe her decisions were not right. But neither was her situation. I agree she should hv returned home. But she made a decision not to and later decided to make it right fr her.

Honestly I think had she returned home , story would hv gone on repeat like after the first divorce. Thats why the writers went this way. Not saying it ws perfect but they tried to be different.

Like I mentioned, HC being part of this show is what drew me to it. I haven’t watched many serials. I am more of an OTT person. And yes, I get your point. It is unfair of me to expect ITV to address my issues. But I thought since this is third generation and it is 2023, they wouldn’t fall back to their old tactics. But, I agree, I can’t expect much. I will surely check out for content on Sony. 😊

I honestly feel that the writers didn’t completely address their issues post the first leap. They had one episode (just before Abhira entered Birla house after canceling the divorce) where they addressed the issues in their marriage and promised to work together to make things better. And then it went back to square one. The writers aren’t doing justice to most of the characters. Which is why I feel Abhira could have become one of the strongest ITV couples. But the writers butchered them!