Ye dukh khatam kahe nahi hota be - Page 9

I can't say about others but I've pretty much made up my mind and have stated this many times🤓

Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

Also the onus of reforming your community lies on your community itself. Instead of telling other people to keep quite, if ur community put even a fraction of that effort in its own reforms then the world would be much more peaceful

🤣 Really? Looks like you only want to blame muslims otherwise you wouldn't have said the last line.."the world would be much more peaceful"..as if If we reform ourselves then the whole world will be in peace? Will the bombing into the middle eastern countries stop? Will the Myanmar muslims get to live in their own country again? Will it stop all the problems happening in India?

I've been born and brought up in middle east where there are people from different communities. Have you ever seen Muslim Vs Hindu fight news in middle east countries? Maybe there have been instances like that but very few. How are people living over there especially when majority of the people over there are muslims? Please ask them how they are living with such unpeaceful people?

I don't understand what part of our community hurts you so much that you had to say this when there are hindu and muslims living happily together in one community in other different parts of the world. My coworkers are hindu too and we go to work together almost daily and love sharing and gossiping with each other. We never saw each other as a Hindu or Muslim but we saw each other as humans who have good and bad sides.

For just one rotten apple you can't blame the whole community.

And about your last para, I have never seen any one posting tweets against ur community over here so how can I defend. And also, I am not here to defend or debate about religion. This is BW forum, where I come for fun. But I had to quote you last time because you were blaming muslims for encouraging isis.

Peace out !

Originally posted by: Ottocake

🤣 Really? Looks like you only want to blame muslims otherwise you wouldn't have said the last line.."the world would be much more peaceful"..as if If we reform ourselves then the whole world will be in peace? Will the bombing into the middle eastern countries stop? Will the Myanmar muslims get to live in their own country again? Will it stop all the problems happening in India?

Well without Isis, al kayada and other terrorist organisations, majority of which fight for jihad, the world would definitely be much more peaceful. Dont u belive that if fighting for jihad stops then a lot of terrorist activities will stop too.. wouldn't that increase peace? Bombing in ME was due to a reason. And about myanmar muslims why are u conveniently ignoring the massacre of Hindus they did there. The mass graves found at various sites still tell the tales of their barbarity... But u would rather we sympathize with Rohingyas rather than the Hindus they killed in Myanmar. Their action met with reaction and they had to flee. But still they are the victims not the Hindus they killed there. Waah 👏 yes reforms will indeed stop a lot of problems happening in India.

I've been born and brought up in middle east where there are people from different communities. Have you ever seen Muslim Vs Hindu fight news in middle east countries? Maybe there have been instances like that but very few. How are people living over there especially when majority of the people over there are muslims? Please ask them how they are living with such unpeaceful people?

Do u seriously think Hindus are in a position to fight with muslims in Islamic Nations when they can hardly do that in India itself. What a joke 😆

Please tell how many of 56 muslim majority countries are secular? If u guys like secularism so much then why not implement it when u r in majority too? Do u think people don't see and understand such hypocrisy?

I don't understand what part of our community hurts you so much that you had to say this when there are hindu and muslims living happily together in one community in other different parts of the world. My coworkers are hindu too and we go to work together almost daily and love sharing and gossiping with each other. We never saw each other as a Hindu or Muslim but we saw each other as humans who have good and bad sides.

I didn't want to say it all here but now this thread is doomed so here we go - when u say there is no God but Allah then u are being intolerant towards my God & religion. When u consider Kafirs and polytheists with disdain then again it isn't increasing love between communities. When u divide the world into dar-al-harb and dar-al-Islam then again it's not increasing peace and inclusivity. 🤪

It's not like I'm going around fighting with Muslims everywhere either. It's only when u guys start this faltu ka victim play and falsehood that I'm forced to retaliate. Why are Sindhi Hindus being converted forcefully everyday in Pakistan .... Is it because of your true love for kafirs?

For just one rotten apple you can't blame the whole community.

Unfortunately there isn't just one rotten apple. Infact it's just the opposite. Only because of few good ones the goodwill is still remaining.

And about your last para, I have never seen any one posting tweets against ur community over here so how can I defend. And also, I am not here to defend or debate about religion. This is BW forum, where I come for fun. But I had to quote you last time because you were blaming muslims for encouraging isis.

Obviously selective reading, like i said before. If u r not here to defend or debate about religion then what are u doing here arguing with me. Don't forget u were the one who quoted my tweet post and started blaming me. I never said Muslims are encouraging Isis. Don't write such blatant lies. Post a ss where i said that or apologize for spreading falsehood about me.

Peace out !

Ghanta peace 🔔

P.s. this is what your so called victim Myanmar Muslims did 👇

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-evidence-reveals-rohingya-armed-group-massacred-scores-in-rakhine-state/

Originally posted by: carisma2

I agree with everything you said.

But at Bold...

I think you've knit yourself in to my talk with NP.

Where now we have a more clearer understanding of each others stances.

Regarding the back drop, I'm really glad you did knit yourself in. There is an extra amount of info you bring with you which I appreciate.

I wasn't criticising, I was trying to answer the title.. of how we as a society are failing and how to try and make things better.

I'm not biased Zeal. Last year the incident I mentioned was not a one off. There were riots going on been hindu and Muslims. Mostly the lads. Both were as bad as each other. I spoke up against both. I think you missed the part where I said we should all be there for one another.

I know a little about your religion too, if someone misunderstands it, I will have them corrected also.

I want to ask you these issues you and NP are referring to, is it more so in whole of India or certain areas. Because generally the hindu population is larger by far in India. Is it a pattern in specific areas? Where Hindus are a minority?

The real problem here is that people take isolated incidents from my community and unfairly equate them to both communities as a whole. But in reality these incidents are much smaller compared to what the peaceful community has been doing for decades and is even doing today.

It's true that there are good and bad factions in both communities.. but the real issue is that people from the peaceful community rarely acknowledges years of their wrongdoings and never strongly speaks out against the bad factions. This lack of condemnation makes the situation worse.. it gives the bad factions motivation to continue.

This comparison between the two communities only adds to the suffering and injustice we have been facing for decades.

Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

My replies in red.

Basically they want to shut us speaking about sufferings of our community because it makes them uneasy and affects the time they want to have fun.

Originally posted by: Ottocake

When did we post against your religion? I've never seen anyone posting anything bad about your religion. I sometimes see tweets about hindus hurting muslims, but never posted here cause I know it will offend the people who follow that religion and I don't such kind of intention.

it is their hindu celebrities that post against their religion.. Be it twinkle khanna or the makers of pk.. And these morons will be why not other religion? Maybe because they dont have to practice or follow rituals of other religion.. Why would they have problems with religion they are not following in the first place 🤣 at least use logic..

Started reading this thread, stopped myself somehow from intervening 😑. Sorry you have to go through all this. It’s like banging against a wall. They come here for fun. We end up justifying our right to exist.

Take a bow though, you have done a marvellous job👍🏼

Originally posted by: monalidp

Started reading this thread, stopped myself somehow from intervening 😑. Sorry you have to go through all this. It’s like banging against a wall. They come here for fun. We end up justifying our right to exist.

Take a bow though, you have done a marvellous job👍🏼

Thank you Monali.

Yes indeed it's like banging our head against a wall. If we talk about atrocities on our community by the other community then that is spreading hate. Doing all those atrocities is not hate, talking about those is! 🤷🏼‍♂️

P.s. - all these arguments drain me out... I don't know why can't I just control myself from replying to them and get caught in their trap again & again 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Tum logon ki meri tweets se itni jalti hai 😆 ab to aur bhi zyada post karunga 😈

Originally posted by: YourCat

it is their hindu celebrities that post against their religion.. Be it twinkle khanna or the makers of pk.. And these morons will be why not other religion? Maybe because they dont have to practice or follow rituals of other religion.. Why would they have problems with religion they are not following in the first place 🤣 at least use logic..

@bold - first they will taunt, mock and abuse and then play victim. They have perfected this art with years of practice and overwhelm us with their sheer number👏