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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: msin

Sai virat and pakhi were the pillars of the show … Leena G had not written it like this it a more rono emon story … and how they interact with difffrebt characters … RK , Shruti , madhuparna and even Devyani , shivani characters had a huge role in shaping their story … but Ghum totally focused on these 3 Sai virat pakhi .. replacing one pillar with something never worked .. Only time made a difference was when samrat came back it affected the story .. and then his tragic death .. Shruti , Satya were not that effective over here

Agree! For a non-speaker like me, the story has so much impact! The side characters actually showed what a marriage is! They stood by their DIL mostly. Here they made everyone furniture piece. Worst character arc is pulkit! He had such a prominent role in the original and here he was nothing. Then mohit. Samrat was the saving grace 👍 who made some impact.
Also, correct me if I am wrong, Rono never had drunk conversations with anyone. He was so straight forward 😢. Here they made clownery out of virat and yeah his mother. She was also a strong character. Here she is good for nothing mom. 😡

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

I will consider this as a win agar June 15 se June 5 tak ley aaye toh 🤣... Please aur 10 din kam karo 😭

I am low key scared k yeh 15th tak kia dikhayenge 😭this torture should end re!!

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Posted: 2 years ago

Chhoda yaar. Every Thursday ka panchayat hai. Truth is no one knows. Only the makers know the reason. Unless we have Pankaj, Vanku, Rajesh, and other members of the analysis team confirming what went wrong, baki sab opinions hai...and online audience like us ke opinion se naa itv chala hai, na chalega...

So bas Thursday ko


Edited by nutmeg7 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

they over exhausted sairat reunion instead of focusing on increasing episode numbers.. Literally post satya's entry makers lost the plot..

One they over stretched Pakhi's shenanigans.. Then HA entry was so blah..

His characterisation was blah since the beginning and no takkar with ML... Moreover this new Jodi supposed to be be more sparkling than the original one to make it interesting...

More importantly it created blot on mother sai..Its coming across she has washed her hands off from Vinu.. They should logically pave a way for HA exit..

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Chhoda yaar. Every Tuesday ka panchayat hai. Truth is no one knows. Only the makers know the reason. Unless we have Pankaj, Vanku, Rajesh, and other members of the analysis team confirming what went wrong, baki sab opinions hai...and online audience like us ke opinion se naa itv chala hai, na chalega...

So bas Thursday ko


be honest. Everyone knows the reason, man must acknowledge the truth.


Didi Exit is the reason .No Didi, no DDP, no 🍿

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Edited by Aminarose31 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaome

they over exhausted sairat reunion instead of focusing on increasing episode numbers.. Literally post satya's entry makers lost the plot..

One they over stretched Pakhi's shenanigans.. Then HA entry was so blah..

His characterisation was blah since the beginning and no takkar with ML... Moreover this new Jodi supposed to be be more sparkling than the original one to make it interesting...

More importantly it created blot on mother sai..Its coming across she has washed her hands off from Vinu.. They should logically pave a way for HA exit..

Bringing in Satya & then Sai marrying in haste destroying . possibility of original family of 4 was nail in the coffin. They should have given Virat redemption track with his effort to gain Sai’s trust would have been a better track. TRP stayed high till there was hope of Sairat.
Now after 2 months it’s obvious that bringing in HA as Satya not only didn’t help but led to further damaging the show.

Edited by LadyD - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Catching up with episodes now. I don’t understand how Satya can fall in love with Sai in just few days of their marriage? Like Virat and Pakhi was still understandable as they were young, single and not in love with anyone else at the time. Makers should’ve showed at least 1 month of leap of their marriage and shown how Satya got so used to Sai and falling in love with her. But here they just go to the hospital 2-3 days after their marriage and cvs show Satya realizing he’s falling in love? Understandable love happens and can happen in short time too but still when Satya hadn’t moved on from his ex. It feels sad seeing Satya is keep being heartbroken every time Sai is instead taking Virat’s name in Puja, wearing Vinu’s saree and then eating from Virat while Satya kept working for these events m but kept being disappointed and heartbroken every time 😢

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: msin

Given their eternal love for cringe …Kaun believe karega and watch karega next generation.. Why should anyone invest their time in vinu n savi ki story when 850 episodes of Sai virat ki story got no happy moments .. or proper closure .. If they don’t close the cowrie track properly or give the wish of savi having her happy family .. I won’t watch any murga ph show .. who is watching yhc.. after their gen leap .. might as well end the show and bring a fresh new show in this slot .. so many shows in star plus deserve a better slot than the dead 11 pm slot or 6 pm slot .. regarding Satya ka exit wait for my song on his last shot


Exactly...

In telugu there is a show which was telecasted more than 3 years...highest trp puller( 17/18)....

Audience waited for leads reunion...but unfortunately they brought leads together and killed them in an accident and brought generation leap...generation leap did nt worked well..

So they brought og leads story as FB, but did nt get the expected trps...so they ended show.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: msin

Exactly…. That’s the point .. they stretched something too much and suddenly brought about the change the relationship show has done things in a very positive and polite way .. nobody is looking bad .. all 4 characters … over here Sai n virat have shortchanged their kids and are looking egoistic.. third angles creepy n cringe


Yeah...they stretched p angle beyond the limit...with bus accident they would have given closure to p..but they stretched with pheras znd honeymoon..

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Posted: 2 years ago

I am not a good TRP analyzer, nor I followed any ITV shows other than ghum so I am not a good person to comment. But through the views of some of my friends here and analyzing the numbers, I think I gained some knowledge. Based on that here is my opinion.

The TRP audience has varied demographics, majority of them are like home makers who have middle class mindset, not like us who are actively studying or pursuing careers. They still have a mindset where marriage means eternal, husband makes mistakes, wives forgive and both of them work for their family. For them marriage is sacred. Unless the husband is out and out negative, they will forgive the character. They dont like wife and husband leaving each other, out of their own will. They are OK with Pakhi kind of woman separating them and paying for it. Post leap worked because of this. Sruthi didnt work as much because she is not negative as Pakhi and Virat showing favors for her, is detested. Even Virat marrying Pakhi should not have worked, except that there was anticipation that she will not get anything. Post leap they showed how Virat was not in a normal marriage and though people freaked out whether they will move on or not, they immediately showed how Pakhi's plans keep failing. This gave them the satisfaction that she is suffering and some kind of anticipation that she will pay for all her deeds.

Now, under similar circumstances, a male character for Sai would have been tolerated only to make Virat jealous and act faster to get Sai. Make him suffer with the possibility that Sai also can move on with an eligible man. But, for majority of the audience(people like us count for only 1%. Indian population is vast and diverse with similar ethos) Sai is Virat's wife. Virat loves Sai (though this 1% doesnt agree), story shows the same and people received it that way. Virat is also victim of circumstances for them, not only Sai. Hence, they cannot see them with other person. Especially Sai, not as other man's wife. This is the mindset of typical Indian women who watch the shows on TV.

Let me tell you an example. My mother and aunt follow telugu version of Ghum. They started on my insistence. They didnt like Pakhi from the beginning because she was very much on the face unlike our Pakhi. They instantly liked Sai. And slowly liked Virat. Now they are at a phase where they root for them, just like we did before confession. While I was watching Ghum along with my mother(she understands hindi), she asked few questions where I spoiled for her that Virat married Pakhi in Sai's absense. Do you know what her first question was?! Shock and then she asked whether he was conjugal with her. :D My mother is a fairly progressive woman. But her question made me burst out in laughter. I asked her, how does it matter. The marriage itself is a betrayal right? She said, but he married when his wife was dead and while adopting a kid. It is kind of Pakhi's payback to him for ruining his life. She is also not fully convinced that he married her, because she doesnt like Pakhi in telugu version also. She said she will stop watching the telugu show also!! But see her initial reaction? She asked if he is in conjugal, loving relationship with pakhi?! TV Women are forgiving. Because of several reasons which are characteristic to their circumstances.

ITV shows are made for them, not for US, the elite, the educated and debate mongers. There is a vast spectrum of audience who judge these shows and they collectively influence TRP. For them, Satya would have worked only as a jealousy factor or a friend of Sai who pushes her towards Virat. Not as Virat's replacement.

From that view point, I think Promo did the damage. They were taken aback, but waited that it will not happen. But it did. Even Sruthi track had bad TRP, but there was anticipation that sairat will unite so they stuck with the show and TRP improved. But now, they cant wait. They are all waiting for the reunion and this happened. There was a marriage that they will never approve of and the character which delayed SaiRat reunion. So the TRP dropped, but is being maintained steadily because, just like some of us, they still switch on the TV hoping that SaiRat will reunite. With this data, I would like to make a prediction that TRP will increase as SaiRat reunion approaches. It is not rocket science at this point. It is something makers also know. Even if TRP increases, they have no story. Either they have to end or tap the increased TRP for the leap.

So long story short, it is not the actor that is responsible for TRP drop, it is the story and the new character which is wrongly placed. Even if they get SRK in HA's place, it would not have worked. Sai is Virat's wife! The story is built that way in the mind of majority of people, and they dont see Virat as villian. Only possibility is to turn him into a villain over the period of time, like many months because Virat and Sai found place in masses hearts over 2.5 years. It is not easy to erase that in few weeks. A proper story should turn Virat into villain for Sai to fall for another guy. And for that, people have to wait longer but they ran out of patience. They were all waiting for SaiRat reunion. It is not easy to change that without. The story/narrative of 2.5 years would not support that. Therefore I say, No SRK, no Hrithik, no Anuj, no Satya can replace Virat. Virat gained acceptance among the masses if not us. We are just a handful when compared to the actual audience who likes to see SaiRat together. This is the reality I understood.

I am SaiRat fan, but I dont want the story to progress this way. I have a plot that ties all the lose ends but can I explain it convincingly to the diverse womenfolk who watch this TV show? I doubt. So all the lofty ideas we have would not work in reality.

Neither Story nor the audience support SS marriage, thats why the track is failing. Not because of the actors.


PS: This is something I learnt watching ghum and the numbers. I could be wrong.

Edited by sadiltl - 2 years ago

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