Why blind trust is not possible

I agree. Angad is right mostly in this regard. He should not trust Mongas and he is consistent.

It is Sahiba who is extremely idiotic. She only considers Garry wrong, no one else.

She defended Angad's character in front of those Gurudwara ladies when he instead of defending those ladies trivialized eve teasing and asked them to go elsewhere. That too after Angad had molested her multiple times, she is telling random ladies they are wrong to judge his character instead of defending them from the eve teasers. She looked desperate defending Manveer and Angad in front of Jasleen and saying crap like he would not marry for money, Angad from the moment he met Sahiba has been insulting her lack of wealth and she is lecturing people , as if Angad would have spared a glance at Seerat if he knew she was poor. Angad lets his brother call her characterless in her room and stops her from slapping him while she is lecturing random people about his character. She is a doormat.

Anything bad happens to her she has it coming and she deserves all of Angads wrath, in fact I am excited for when he will insult her worth after Garry truth reveal and throw money on her face because she truly has 0 self respect despite big words. She was a doormat for Seerat and her mom and now a doormat for Angad and his mom, just long lectures , 0 substance.

Originally posted by: hellodona

I agree. Angad is right mostly in this regard. He should not trust Mongas and he is consistent.

It is Sahiba who is extremely idiotic. She only considers Garry wrong, no one else.

She defended Angad's character in front of those Gurudwara ladies when he instead of defending those ladies trivialized eve teasing and asked them to go elsewhere. That too after Angad had molested her multiple times, she is telling random ladies they are wrong to judge his character instead of defending them from the eve teasers. She looked desperate defending Manveer and Angad in front of Jasleen and saying crap like he would not marry for money, Angad from the moment he met Sahiba has been insulting her lack of wealth and she is lecturing people , as if Angad would have spared a glance at Seerat if he knew she was poor. Angad lets his brother call her characterless in her room and stops her from slapping him while she is lecturing random people about his character. She is a doormat.

Anything bad happens to her she has it coming and she deserves all of Angads wrath, in fact I am excited for when he will insult her worth after Garry truth reveal and throw money on her face because she truly has 0 self respect despite big words. She was a doormat for Seerat and her mom and now a doormat for Angad and his mom, just long lectures , 0 substance.

he trusted Sahiba when she denied knowing seerat the many times he asked her whenever he met her before marriage

I would like to differ here. Sahiba never said she didn’t know Seerat. It was Seerat who denied to acknowledge Sahiba. Sahiba has multiple times addressed Seerat as didi in front of Angad. It was Seerat who refused to acknowledge Sahiba as her sister and came up with excuses. Sahiba was shocked by her sisters denial to acknowledge her as sister and she kept quiet (which was wrong btw) but I really wonder if at that point sahiba claims Seerat as her sister whom would Angad chose to believe? Obviously he will believe only Seerat because as per Angad sahiba is ill mannered, greedy and after his money whereas Seerat had impressed him. And he was in love with Seerat at that point. That much love that he didn’t check her background and fall prey for the scam of Mongas. Even though Sahiba has revealed truth before marriage but she revealed it at the last moment because of which it doesn’t matter to Angad. The damage has done. I can understand he or in that matter anyone at Brar Mansion refusing to trust Sahiba or anyone from Monga family is understandable and logical. Frankly if you see Angad and brars are bigger victims here. Sure they are fools but we cannot deny the fact that they were conned badly by Mongas. The writers should have portrayed Angad as a victim instead of turning him into inhumane. Denying food, forced feeding, molestation attempt, victim blaming, leaving Sahiba to die and saving Seerat and then blaming her for Seerat’s suicide all that have damaged Angad beyond repair. Coming to Sahiba she loves to lecture a lot of which 90% she don’t follow this making her a big hypocrite. She defending Angad’s character in front of those ladies who were standing up for themselves for Eve teasing looks pathetic. Angad had almost molested her. Even then she is giving a character guarantee? I wouldn’t have blamed Angad if he had accused Sahiba at that moment all these as a drama set up by her. It actually looked like a desperate attempt by Sahiba ( the writers might have meant something else but the execution made me felt that way) Sahiba has not provided any solid proofs proving Garry’s involvement with Seerat. Seerat who should have stood up for herself chose to ran away instead of revealing truth. So not trusting Sahiba at point made sense. Even now I don’t understand why Sahiba is taking Angad’s words so seriously that he will only believe Seerat’s testimony? After what all Seerat did why would anyone believe her? It will actually comes like a desperate attempt to trap a rich guy.

Originally posted by: Az07

he trusted Sahiba when she denied knowing seerat the many times he asked her whenever he met her before marriage

I would like to differ here. Sahiba never said she didn’t know Seerat. It was Seerat who denied to acknowledge Sahiba. Sahiba has multiple times addressed Seerat as didi in front of Angad. It was Seerat who refused to acknowledge Sahiba as her sister and came up with excuses. Sahiba was shocked by her sisters denial to acknowledge her as sister and she kept quiet (which was wrong btw) but I really wonder if at that point sahiba claims Seerat as her sister whom would Angad chose to believe? Obviously he will believe only Seerat because as per Angad sahiba is ill mannered, greedy and after his money whereas Seerat had impressed him. And he was in love with Seerat at that point. That much love that he didn’t check her background and fall prey for the scam of Mongas. Even though Sahiba has revealed truth before marriage but she revealed it at the last moment because of which it doesn’t matter to Angad. The damage has done. I can understand he or in that matter anyone at Brar Mansion refusing to trust Sahiba or anyone from Monga family is understandable and logical. Frankly if you see Angad and brars are bigger victims here. Sure they are fools but we cannot deny the fact that they were conned badly by Mongas. The writers should have portrayed Angad as a victim instead of turning him into inhumane. Denying food, forced feeding, molestation attempt, victim blaming, leaving Sahiba to die and saving Seerat and then blaming her for Seerat’s suicide all that have damaged Angad beyond repair. Coming to Sahiba she loves to lecture a lot of which 90% she don’t follow this making her a big hypocrite. She defending Angad’s character in front of those ladies who were standing up for themselves for Eve teasing looks pathetic. Angad had almost molested her. Even then she is giving a character guarantee? I wouldn’t have blamed Angad if he had accused Sahiba at that moment all these as a drama set up by her. It actually looked like a desperate attempt by Sahiba ( the writers might have meant something else but the execution made me felt that way) Sahiba has not provided any solid proofs proving Garry’s involvement with Seerat. Seerat who should have stood up for herself chose to ran away instead of revealing truth. So not trusting Sahiba at point made sense. Even now I don’t understand why Sahiba is taking Angad’s words so seriously that he will only believe Seerat’s testimony? After what all Seerat did why would anyone believe her? It will actually comes like a desperate attempt to trap a rich guy.

I think you didn’t get my point it’s ok fine

Angad’s trust issues are justified and they will always be but that will never - at least in my eyes - absolve him of the attempted rape and that trumps over anything Sahiba did for me. Sahiba as always and like most ITV heroines is only talk. In essence it is shoddy writing and execution.

If he is being smart now , good for him and I hope he extends that smartness on every occasion.

Originally posted by: NidhaA

Angad’s trust issues are justified and they will always be but that will never - at least in my eyes - absolve him of the attempted rape and that trumps over anything Sahiba did for me. Sahiba as always and like most ITV heroines is only talk. In essence it is shoddy writing and execution.

If he is being smart now , good for him and I hope he extends that smartness on every occasion.

@ bold this exactly is the issues I cannot shop them as a couple. That molestation attempt and victim blaming put a final nail in the coffin.

Honestly don't know why Sahiba should have revealed anything. Angad spoke so much crap to her without knowing her in first few meetings that she should have very willingly let him be duped by her fraud sister. Why would she care about that guy who insulted her so badly in first few meetings. Her fault was she participated in the fraud instead of ignoring it, the I love you and crap. And she is paying a heavy price for it so regardless of whether she repents or not she got her punishment and will continue getting.

She definitely needs to seek professional help because minutes after Angad tried to rape her she was feeling bad that he loved Seerat, like girl, why are you feeling bad for a potential rapist because his to be wife ran away, she got spared and you are feeling sad.

Then unprovoked she goes on to defend his character in Gurudwara in front of women who were getting harassed, her great husband heard the whole thing and asked them to take their harassment elsewhere and she defended him instead of siding with the women while being a woman herself.

Then again she goes around defending Manveer and how Angad would not marry a girl for money when ever since he met her has been insulting her lack of money. Girl , you deserve all the insults you get and more.

Coming to Angad, he should not believe Mongas over his brother and he is right there. Most right he has been the whole show is in this regard, he has doubts but refuses to trust Sahiba which is valid.

Originally posted by: Az07

@ bold this exactly is the issues I cannot shop them as a couple. That molestation attempt and victim blaming put a final nail in the coffin.

you can’t ship them and you are right in your place but there are many who still do and the scene did not matter much as it’s normal in ITV to have such scenes for the shock and emotional value and the story itself did not make much of an issue of it . . We have to respect both kinds of people…. people who can and people who cannot accept this ..so it’s fine and here they gave a closure to the issue too . Angad here clearly called out Gary for getting him fully intoxicated and instigating and influencing him to act against Sahiba when he was not in a state to understand what he was doing and that is truly what happened. If Gary is made responsible for the Monga scam where we are clearly told that if Gary’s crime is proved it will absolve Sahiba and mongas then Gary being the culprit will apply more to this issue . So in a way Gary is the main culprit and they have closed both the fraud and this issue with Gary