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Posted: 2 years ago
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Last two episodes (today and Tuesday) feel really confusing from what Katha is doing really or what her stance really is. It's really coming as superficial tbh with the whole lecture-baazi that's going on over and everything while attempting to suppress the "weird" thing she feels.

Otherwise the scenes were nice. I did like the scene with Viaan's dieting becoming a phuski bomb over homemade food. 😆

What's so weird that she wanted distance and yet she shared food, kept following him when the lights were out, she doesn't mind going home in a cab with Viaan, etc. Idk but the flipping behavior is kinda weird.

Edited by Chemcart_MJ - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: sowmya2407

Yeah, I am also like stop the speeches Katha and try to be honest with yourself atleast.... But these kind of scenes give an insight into who she is actually as a person....

The build-up from that scene had potential but definitely mentioned by others, it's just projecting her in an opposite direction.

I think its good that Viaan criticized Ehsan for his stupid schemes when all he wanted to do was maintain distance from her as per her choice, especially the tire puncture, lights going off, trying to project himself as some Cupid in their dynamics.

Edited by Chemcart_MJ - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chemcart_MJ

Last two episodes (today and Tuesday) feel really comfusing from what Katha is doing really. It's really coming as irritating tbh with the whole lecture-baazi that's going on over and everything while attempting to suppress the "weird" thing she feels. Idk, just kinda

What's so weird that she wanted distance and yet she shared food, kept following him when the lights were out, she doesn't mind going home in a cab with Viaan, etc. Idk but the flipping behavior is kinda weird.

Yeah it was kind of odd that Katha was sharing her food with Viaan when she was the one who asked him to back off. Her character lacks consistency since some of her actions contradict her thoughts and what she says and this has been the case since the beginning. I guess when you have creative liberty consistency goes for a toss.
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Posted: 2 years ago
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I found the serial has no monologue of Kathaa, because it was made from the ML POV, additionally kathaa never had anybody to confess her feelings after Rewa hence we never got to hear her feelings or emotions.

IMO kathaa's sense of betrayal to Aadi or her guilt is just one dimension or an aspect of the various reasons for her refusal. Agree with Ehsan's words she's emotionally vulnerable within in just like Viaan.

Kathaa's POV:She's old enough to be responsible and focus on her son, Viaaan and she are on different pages in life's journey above all she cannot forget her deceased husband just because he's no more, hence she never even considers what she wants or whether she likes Viaan.

ACC to Kathaa, If she shows some restraint everything will be fine, otherwise she can become the reason for the ruin of several lives including her dear son.

It's a long distance which can be covered only when there's an external force provoking her to think.


Originally posted by: AreYaar

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Katha trying to be practical is totally understandable.....but her LYING about being "very clear" etc. is where it sort of undermines her character.


If she was only giving gyaan on being practical in life in general, her words would have held more weight. But right now, she is coming across as delusional and hypocritical. The fact that no one in the story calls her out on it and instead are busy worshipping her like some all knowing goddess further makes it weird😆


On the other hand, the Viaan that everyone is calling impractical and impulsive loverboy mode right now is coming across more sincere in what he's saying and doing.


When you keep lying repeatedly and so confidently, it undermines you as a character.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rsrockz

I found the serial has no monologue of Kathaa, because it was made from the ML POV, additionally kathaa never had anybody to confess her feelings after Rewa hence we never got to hear her feelings or emotions.

IMO kathaa's sense of betrayal to Aadi or her guilt is just one dimension or an aspect of the various reasons for her refusal. Agree with Ehsan's words she's emotionally vulnerable within in just like Viaan.

Kathaa's POV:She's old enough to be responsible and focus on her son, Viaaan and she are on different pages in life's journey above all she cannot forget her deceased husband just because he's no more, hence she never even considers what she wants or whether she likes Viaan.

ACC to Kathaa, If she shows some restraint everything will be fine, otherwise she can become the reason for the ruin of several lives including her dear son.

It's a long distance which can be covered only when there's an external force provoking her to think.



I'm not sure if the show is deliberately made from the ML's POV....it is named after Katha after all...she is literally the title character😆.


But yes, they suffer from the usual issue plaguing ITV these days....blind glorification of the FL's flaws and mistakes. Every story revolves around showing others wronging the FL and then groveling in front of her for forgiveness. Viaan's every mistake was highlighted with a searing spotlight, he faced Katha's disgust and shunning....and then he set about atoning and earning her forgiveness. That is why we feel connected to his character because he's shown a graph. It's not about being from his POV but more about showing growth through acknowledgement of flaws. If you don't even show any character's mistakes being acknowledged, what is there to grow towards?


Sadly I don't see this trend changing anytime soon. There are a lot of good things in this show otherwise but ultimately they also can't really rise above that typical ITV mentality of hailing everything the FL does as justified and showing her as an eternal victim being hurt by the mistakes of others simply to justify her.


I'm sure Katha making mistakes in this denial phase of hers will also be justified in the long run as all done for the greater good and practicality and Viaan alone was the silly one who tried to live the truth of his feelings😆.


Women are amazing creatures to begin with....but ITV for some reason feels that their awesomeness cannot be justified without deriding, degrading and guilt tripping all other people in their orbit 😆

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Twinklestar139

Yeah it was kind of odd that Katha was sharing her food with Viaan when she was the one who asked him to back off. Her character lacks consistency since some of her actions contradict her thoughts and what she says and this has been the case since the beginning. I guess when you have creative liberty consistency goes for a toss.


Katha right now is swinging between calculation (mind) and impulse (heart). Calculation makes her sit at the table with Viaan because she wants to prove to herself that she isn't affected by him. Impulse makes her unable to help herself from sharing her food with him when she sees him eyeing it. Impulse also makes her step up and literally help him eat the food when he's having trouble with his hand.


This all links back to what Dodo said to her...."dil reh nahin paayega".....dimaag jo bhi bole, dil reh nahin paayega. Dimaag tells Katha to act normal with Viaan to show that he has no impact on her life. Dil makes her go the extra mile beyond normal in doing things like sharing her food with him, helping him eat the food. Dil also makes her hang around his cabin even when he's telling her she can go home for the day😆


Ofcourse she won't acknowledge or accept that her heart pulls her towards him....she has no idea how contradictory her actions are cuz she finds some excuse or the other to justify it in her head and she's also rebuked Viaan enough that he is also convinced that her doing these little things for him doesn't have any special meaning.....lol

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Posted: 2 years ago
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At the end love is a choice. If love is just feeling, people won't be able to move on after breakup and divorce due to practical reason. Love marriage also break within 1-2 year of marriage as they find they are not compatible even if they both are attracted to each other. So it is not wrong to think about practicality before acceptance especially when you are at 30+ age.

For Katha there are lot of more things to think about. First thing is her kid. Second thing is her own past. Imagine she keep talking about her late husband, ultimately Viaan will get frustrated with her talk and move out.

Edited by Neutral2 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#28

Agree with you that ITV is full of FL glorification but in here Ka apart from a bit of over bashans I find Kathaa to be sensible and decent. Title of the story is "Katha ankahee" it's the perspective of how an untold story of a lady employee changed the life of a man who was of the belief that LOVE of women is directly proportional to the amount of money spent on them.

Finally I won't consider Kathaa have committed any mistakes which calls for atonement. She's not being selfless and schemy but genuinely numb inside to perceive any simmering feelings and being from a small town in India still having that values within me, I consider offering food to someone who is staring at the meal is humanity and doesn't require any special emotion.

Kathaa's running behind Viaan to explain him whatever she's working on and kathaa would have looked terribly opportunistic has she taken Viaan's cab without even bothering to offer him a ride share.

Finally women are often misconstrued as opportunistic, calculative, manipulative etc but women tend to keep significant others above their own desires and wishes.

Originally posted by: AreYaar


I'm not sure if the show is deliberately made from the ML's POV....it is named after Katha after all...she is literally the title character😆.


But yes, they suffer from the usual issue plaguing ITV these days....blind glorification of the FL's flaws and mistakes. Every story revolves around showing others wronging the FL and then groveling in front of her for forgiveness. Viaan's every mistake was highlighted with a searing spotlight, he faced Katha's disgust and shunning....and then he set about atoning and earning her forgiveness. That is why we feel connected to his character because he's shown a graph. It's not about being from his POV but more about showing growth through acknowledgement of flaws. If you don't even show any character's mistakes being acknowledged, what is there to grow towards?


Sadly I don't see this trend changing anytime soon. There are a lot of good things in this show otherwise but ultimately they also can't really rise above that typical ITV mentality of hailing everything the FL does as justified and showing her as an eternal victim being hurt by the mistakes of others simply to justify her.


I'm sure Katha making mistakes in this denial phase of hers will also be justified in the long run as all done for the greater good and practicality and Viaan alone was the silly one who tried to live the truth of his feelings😆.


Women are amazing creatures to begin with....but ITV for some reason feels that their awesomeness cannot be justified without deriding, degrading and guilt tripping all other people in their orbit 😆

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Posted: 2 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Rsrockz


Finally women are often misconstrued as opportunistic, calculative, manipulative etc but women tend to keep significant others above their own desires and wishes.


Generalizations happen with both genders. No one has a copyright on being selfless or compassionate. Not all women are selfless and not all men are selfish. There can be selfless men just like there can be selfish women.


I prefer talking about humanity and compassion on a general level rather than making it a gender based discussion about how women tend to be or how men tend to be. This story for me is more enjoyable when viewed from that individual lens rather than viewing it as what a man does or what a woman does. When I talk about Katha's flaws or mistakes, I talk about her as a human being before anything else. Same goes for Viaan....it is interesting to watch their evolution as human beings rather than evolution as a man or a woman.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Sorry if I sound typecasting or stereotyping gender roles and attaching personas to characters, but IMO if we ignore the gender identity we can't rationalise their behaviours. I never said men are selfish or women to be less selfish, in fact I agree the sacrifices a man makes for the family aren't taken seriously and that proves we agree on many things including putting humanity and compassion above gender identity. So a big warm thank you for this conversation.

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Generalizations happen with both genders. No one has a copyright on being selfless or compassionate. Not all women are selfless and not all men are selfish. There can be selfless men just like there can be selfish women.


I prefer talking about humanity and compassion on a general level rather than making it a gender based discussion about how women tend to be or how men tend to be. This story for me is more enjoyable when viewed from that individual lens rather than viewing it as what a man does or what a woman does. When I talk about Katha's flaws or mistakes, I talk about her as a human being before anything else. Same goes for Viaan....it is interesting to watch their evolution as human beings rather than evolution as a man or a woman.

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