Katha Ankahee -- #12 daily episode DT - Page 111

Expecting Katha to take a firm stand & tell both her bosses that she needs few days off from work to take Aarav on a trip or some other excuse. (she really needs a break from both Earthcon staff & Mumbai for few days) 😛

Otherwise let Katha threaten out of frustration that she'll be forced to resign from her job again, if they keep on broaching Viaan's love subject before her or keep guilt tripping her daily emotionally by invading her space.😔

Katha needs to give same retort to Teji as well. That lady as per this weeks sneak peak, is manipulating Katha to help her in match fixing a suitable single girl for her son Viaan, which she obliges?😲 so obnoxious..

Originally posted by: riti4u

I feel different here, Katha is not under normal circumstances. She needs a push from people around her to tell her to explore this new possibility. It might seem a terrible idea in normal scenario but in cases where person has closed doors for any love due to grief that is attached to them needs some external assistance. In many cases people go to therapy after experiencing a loss of loved one and get guidance on how to overcome it. Here she is living with that grief for so long and has made it part of her life. It was irony on what she said in precap to Viaan. I thought Viaan would say apply that to yourself first 😛.

I have mixed feelings about it; yes, there are good intentions but the best result shouldn't be so much pushing. a gentle push I can get behind.

basically it is what happens in arranged marriage process. many people feel emotional pressure from parents during arranged marriage that they get married just to stop the constant barrage. then, they find they have made a terrible choice and have to live with it.

so rather than pushing viaan on to her, I would prefer if they reminded her that she does not have to live with grief and that it is okay to move on. I feel by pushing viaan specifically on her, it makes it worse -- a bit like emotional blackmail where she has to accept him only because he has feelings. well, she can also choose someone else right? so I would prefer if they just said in general that they are okay with her getting re-married and it can be anyone she feels comfortable with.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

rather than romantic, he comes across as very problematic. when someone does not respect themselves, it shows he has no idea of what a good romance is. love does not mean you sacrifice your dignity or right to respect.

right now, he has built up katha into this mother goddess in his head. when he sees katha's flaws or she disappoints him in some ways, he will drop her like a hot potato. ofcourse he isn't the villain but if he was, then he would do a crime. thats how he is coming across. nothing about what viaan is doing right now indicates healthy in any way.

it really is disappointing because I was expecting a mature love story. I prefer pigheaded egoistic MLs in comparison to a ML who has zero self-respect. maybe I should go finish the PK drama 'habs' instead.

Oh finally i got your point 😂😎🌹

Especially when you talked about habs

The male lead was the worst when he accused the female lead with a ridiculous sin not to talk about using her at the beginning but yeah i was a fan too for the first episodes later on i lost interset when he accused her ( i hope it's not spoiler to you)

But i now understand you all want viaan to have the early episodes' vibes (egoistic - aggressive and so on) meaning that he still maintain his core character

You maybe rivht but i still have a feeling if he would be like that, no one could accept kaviaan as endgame

I mean after his redemption and particularly when shamita's case opened i have seem many complained about the love story and how the victim falling for the one making her suffering like that

So i don't know which is better for now!!!

Yeah i feel bored or irritated about the way viaan staring at katha or the response to the continuous rejection maybe

BUT i could understand this as per the impact katha has on him and how she changed him (his guiding light as he said) when he didn't find his happiness except with her and also as per viewer of the original version this stage has been showed also when ML was after the FL till she confessed her love to him.

But yeah i wait for him to take along vacation or got busy with his projects (maybe travelling for sometime) and u think this woupd happen as ehsan said to katha viaan value is being felt when he isn't around.

shimo -- I was one of those who was okay with viaan offering one night stand because it was a straightforward deal between two consenting adults (regardless of what one's feel is about ONS in general). if katha had said 'no', he would not have pursued her and neither would her job been affected. even in the hotel room, he gave her option to leave.

where has that viaan gone? he never broke into her physical or emotional space during that period. it was all her choice. at the moment, it is uncomfortable to watch because he is veering into harassment territory. he is pushing her even when she is clearly saying she is not interested.

I really prefer the old pigheaded egoistic viaan because he atleast had a sense of boundaries and space. he would never chase after a woman who rejected him and spout nonsense.

now, I haven't watched episodes in between for two weeks, but by my count, katha has already rejected 3 times already. it might be more.

I remember in one company I worked for, they had informal rule that you can't approach a woman more than 3 times.because it was IT and filled with engineers, they needed to spell it out in a way. so guys would warn other fellas and say "how many times did you approach here?"

even after twice, you can get reported to the manager and get warned. so to approach the third time is a bit of risk. but after 3, it was seen as point blank harassment and it would then start moving up the chains.

considering viaan just went through a case with shamita, one would think he has some brains to back off and stay in his space. someone shouldn't have to skip lunch or avoid the canteen because they are uncomfortable. that is just wrong!

I think Viaan's POV according to makers is-"It is fine if you don't reciprocate my feelings even for the entire life.But I love you and cannot change my path".His actions are contradictory to his words about giving her space.Everyone including him are pushing her directly or indirectly.Hence many people are not liking this version of him.

Originally posted by: G259

I think Viaan's POV according to makers is-"It is fine if you don't reciprocate my feelings even for the entire life.But I love you and cannot change my path".His actions are contradictory to his words about giving her space.Everyone including him are pushing her directly or indirectly.Hence many people are not liking this version of him.

it is also messed up because katha is doing a bit of mixed messaging where people are understanding her actions as her liking him on some level. so the makers are making it seem like she is interested and therefore it is okay for him to just stand there like a statute and do a starefest.

HOWEVER, if she is verbally saying that she isn't interested because of xx reasons, then that should be sufficient answer. people all the time make those kind of choices. people do breakup even when they are in love because tehy feel their goals aren't aligned or any such practical reasons. so it is not necessary that just because you are in love or have some feelings, then you should pursue a relationship. if she is saying, she doesn't feel like it, then she doesn't feel like it.

the problem with viaan's POV is he is her boss -- that is power with him. so his statement puts her in a delicate position which is unfair. if he wants to be devdas, then he should do so in some himalayan cave or another city where he won't see her and she is not held responsibile by his family for his choices.

at the moment, I would prefer typical ITV masala to this. I want to have fun watching but this isn't it.

U nailed it Mango - consent is what is expressly given or withheld, by an able-bodied sound-minded adult. People should not have to be mind-readers nor draw their own convenient interpretations (na mein haan chupa hai etc) to know whether other party is consenting or not. Yes means yes, no means no, lack of yes/no means u can hope & ask again but not proceed until it becomes yes.

In this case whatever Katha’sbody language, she has expressly said no thrice so Viaan is free to keep loving her but not free to profess love openly to her or in front of others thru words or actions. It is a violation of consent, amounting to harrassment.

By the same token, on the ONS night whatever may have been Katha’s hesitant body language she lucidly said yes twice (once in office & once on hotel) and further sealed her consent by taking the money, so there is nothing in Viaan going ahead - ungentlemanly but not wrong.

But hats off to you people some are bothered with Viaan's invasion of Katha's space ,some want him to be egoist again ,some are bothered with feminist angle about Katha and some with mahaanta still discussing with same enthu 😂 😂 😂

As if anything is gonna change

Originally posted by: Bana

U nailed it Mango - consent is what is expressly given or withheld, by an able-bodied sound-minded adult. People should not have to be mind-readers nor draw their own convenient interpretations (na mein haan chupa hai etc) to know whether other party is consenting or not. Yes means yes, no means no, lack of yes/no means u can hope & ask again but not proceed until it becomes yes.

In this case whatever Katha’sbody language, she has expressly said no thrice so Viaan is free to keep loving her but not free to profess love openly to her or in front of others thru words or actions. It is a violation of consent, amounting to harrassment.

By the same token, on the ONS night whatever may have been Katha’s hesitant body language she lucidly said yes twice (once in office & once on hotel) and further sealed her consent by taking the money, so there is nothing in Viaan going ahead - ungentlemanly but not wrong.

see normally I laugh at the staring competitions in ITV because they are hilariously cheesy -- the ML and FL conveniently trip and fall and for a good two minutes, all they do is stare while music flows.

here, I am not able to enjoy viaan's behaviour at all. I was still willing to give his starefest a pass because it was under 2 times the rejection. however, now, she has said it 3 times (including preview) by my count.

the 3 times rule is an easy way to see the limits of wooing. he can't state that he will continue to love her all his life and keep staring at her -- well that is what stalkers do as well and so are other crimes commited in the name of love. a normal ML would move on. this is starting to give me a bit of creeps. I draw the line at not being able to eat food. that is bad.

I hope the makers wake up and realize that this isn't the right way to show wooing. but who knows -- it looks like they are only getting positive feedback and continue to shave off brain cells in viaan.

Originally posted by: Ssp123

But hats off to you people some are bothered with Viaan's invasion of Katha's space ,some want him to be egoist again ,some are bothered with feminist angle about Katha and some with mahaanta still discussing with same enthu 😂 😂 😂

As if anything is gonna change