Ranbir is the biggest superstar of Gen Y? - Page 3

As a silent reader of this forum, I finally found a topic to give my unworthy input.

Ranbir is hardly a superstar. The amount of craze the khans, Hrithik and even Ajay and Akshay have is something he is not able to replicate. My parents do not go to the theatre to watch movies anymore calling it a waste of time but when Pathaan came out, they wanted me to book tickets immediately cause it was SRK after a long time. When we went to the theatre, it was people from ages and walks of life coming to the theatre to watch SRK. My younger cousins went to watch the movie on the first day and watched it again after a few days. This a SUPERSTAR. Someone who is able to bring people to the theatre despite age and background. Ranbir and most of the younger generation are just not able to do that. For their movies, I have seen people say that they will wait until it is online cause it's not worth it.

I think the biggest issue with Ranbir and most of the younger generation is that they are not able to connect with the audience. The khans have sort of understood that it is the audience who made them superstars so there is a sense of respect in their interaction with the audience and a genuine thankfulness for all the love.I do not get that feeling from Ranbir or some of the other ones. It is like he doesn't even care about the people coming to watch his movie. He might be thankful / appreciative on the inside but he is not able to show it. Most of his interactions come across as forced or like he doesn't want to be there but he has to be cause he has to do promotions. I think fans are going to show up and show their love if he shows his too like SRK does on his birthday.

Originally posted by: atominis

Superstar is a guy who can displace and outdo previous superstars and send them to retire mode or dad role mode.

Samjhe?

Not a single star post HR could shake thrones of past real superstars.

Amitabh made Rajesh Khanna irrelevant once he hit big league in 70s. Whereas these Ranbir type, overhyped manchild cannot even break record of Dangal.

Ranbir needs personal life and GFs, wife or mom or khandaan references to stay in news. Will use daughter tomorrow for PR.

Let us see if even that helps him break record of actual superstars' films. Looks like he and others will have to wait for Khans, Akki, HR, Ajay et al to retire and do dad roles, to somehow prove own mass appeal.

Also, remove multiplexes and see where appeal of this Ranbir stands. He is mainly an urban hero with manchild roles done to death and bloody rom coms being his only forte. Zero versatility and never an all rounder. We know how Shamshera failed. He always fails when he tries some action or non urban or rugged role.

Superstar can work in any genre and win over masses.

Still asking, why was superstar not able to break records of Dangal or his films never did as good as Pathaan did now?

Brahmastra is a big hit due to hype of his relation with Alia and marriage and kid with her which they used to hilt to hype the film.

Ranbir does better compared to guys of his generation or guys who came after him but he is NOT superstar.

Superstar makes previous lot irrelevant and sit home. You know how Rajesh Khanna single handedly shut shops of all Dilips, Rajs, Devs, Rajendra Kumars who were compelled to either reduce work or do dad or uncle roles then. Or how Amitabh shut everyone's shop when he finally hit it big.

Whereas shops of Khans, HR, Ajay, Akki are still going on and records of Dangal, Pathaan still stand and often even regional films smash more records than Ranbir films.

Or even Kartik Aryan gave hit like BB 2.

Finally, where is versatility? Why is RK's prime genre still either rom coms or manchild finding his way or coming into age? Sanju too was a peak manchild learning his lesson later, type film.

With his recent flops,Ranveer still has brand worth 3 times RK.

He is also on Indian express most powerful Indians.

After Animal,there is no film in sight.Kjo hasn't even announced Shiva 2 post Brahmastra.Right now he is not in a position, financially. 5-6 twitter handles hype him everyday.

But not a word from anyone in the Industry..producers,directors,actors.

Filmein banao,paise kamao,naam kamao.

These titles don't give you a penny more..doesn't even hand you a trophy.

Originally posted by: atominis

Still asking, why was superstar not able to break records of Dangal or his films never did as good as Pathaan did now?

Brahmastra is a big hit due to hype of his relation with Alia and marriage and kid with her which they used to hilt to hype the film.

Ranbir does better compared to guys of his generation or guys who came after him but he is NOT superstar.

Superstar makes previous lot irrelevant and sit home. You know how Rajesh Khanna single handedly shut shops of all Dilips, Rajs, Devs, Rajendra Kumars who were compelled to either reduce work or do dad or uncle roles then. Or how Amitabh shut everyone's shop when he finally hit it big.

Whereas shops of Khans, HR, Ajay, Akki are still going on and records of Dangal, Pathaan still stand and often even regional films smash more records than Ranbir films.

Or even Kartik Aryan gave hit like BB 2.

Finally, where is versatility? Why is RK's prime genre still either rom coms or manchild finding his way or coming into age? Sanju too was a peak manchild learning his lesson later, type film.

Originally posted by: you2

With his recent flops,Ranveer still has brand worth 3 times RK.

He is also on Indian express most powerful Indians.

After Animal,there is no film in sight.Kjo hasn't even announced Shiva 2 post Brahmastra.Right now he is not in a position, financially. 5-6 twitter handles hype him everyday.

But not a word from anyone in the Industry..producers,directors,actors.

Filmein banao,paise kamao,naam kamao.

These titles don't give you a penny more..doesn't even hand you a trophy.

🤣🤣🤣

They are the ones who are trying too hard to make people believe that TJMM is Super Hit.

Originally posted by: atominis

I want to know why superstar did not break records of Dangal or Pathaan?

Why this generation still gives bigger hits to same old lot and not to this new gen superstar?

How come this generation also still prefers to watch Khans or Ajay or HR or Akki more, compared to their so called 40 YO young superstars?

The Flop Kapoor has always been called the Future Super Star. 🤣🤣🤣

He has to defeat KRK, Saravanan and Kangana to get there😎

And let's not forget the first woman to act opposite the Legend, Urvashi Rautela 😳

It's important to remember that success in the film industry is subjective and dependent on a variety of factors, including the film's content, marketing, timing, and competition. While some films may break records and become blockbusters, others may not achieve the same level of success. It's also worth noting that the definition of a "superstar" varies from person to person, and some may argue that Ranbir Kapoor's success and talent make him a superstar in his own right.

Regarding Brahmastra's success, it's possible that Ranbir's relationship with Alia and personal life did contribute to the hype around the film, but it's important to acknowledge that the film's success was likely also due to factors such as the star-studded cast, the film's budget, and the director's vision.

It's true that some actors in the past have achieved such enormous success that they've been able to dominate the industry and change the landscape. However, the film industry has evolved since then, and there are now many talented actors and actresses who are able to thrive alongside each other.

As for versatility, it's possible that Ranbir has found success in certain genres because they're a good fit for his strengths and personality as an actor.

Diplomatic answer to give a long rope to Ranbir and most men of his generation.

Superstar definition is clear. Not subjective.

The word is used too lightly now.

Rajesh Khanna got that title ONLY after giving 15 consecutive hits within 5 years in a row. Unlike today's champus who do not have 15 clean hits in whole career either.

Amitabh got one man industry title ONLY in 1982 after giving big bits like Deewar, Trishul, Mr Natwarlal, Suhaag, Parvarish, Amar Akbar Anthony, Don, Laawaris, Abhimaan, Kaalia, Namak Halal etc for a decade since 1973.

Rajinikanth got Superstar title after almost 2 decades of giving hits after hits.

SRK got King Khan title ONLY in late 90s or early 2000s after consistent slew of hits in 90s and giving top grossers like DTPH, DDLJ, KKHH, and 2 ATBBs like DDLJ, KKHH in one decade. Not after one or two hits hyped by media or hyped for his relation with co star or some hyped biopic.

Aamir got superstar title only after Lagaan, Ghajini, 3I, RDB, D3, Dangal, TZP, Fanaa broke records and also got critical acclaim. He was denied that title even in 90s despite hits like Dil, QSQT, Rangeela, Ghulam, and ATBB Raja Hindustani. He had to consistently prove he was a draw at BO to earn that title.

Salman got that title only by 1999 when all films he did that year, became big hits and he had already given hits like Judwaa, PKTDK, HSSH, Jeet, Saajan, Love, and 2 ATBBs like MPK, HAHK.

I am amused how criteria is always lowered for Ranbir and he is being called new king of Bollywood or future king since Saawariya itself and was labeled threat to Khans after Ajab prem ki ghajab kahani became hit. Lulz!

No criteria does NOT change.

Hrithik created hysteria with KNPH and gave 3 HGOTYs in first decade of career - KNPH, Krissh, KMG and is one of few actors to give 2 top grossing films of year in same year - Dhoom 2 and Krissh.

He did it without paid trolls or media or selling affairs or personal life.

He had organic craze unlike Ranbir who is always more hype than substance and has NO charisma like Khans and HR (he can be called more charismatic than only Aamir perhaps). Even Ajay Devgan's debut PAK is top grosser of its year of release and clashed with Lamhe and beat it fair and square. And his bike stunt is still copied by youth.

Ranbir babu can only dream of this.

Ranbir or any new guy like Ayushmaan, Ranveer or Rajkumar are online and multiplex stars. They have NO mass appeal on ground and in interiors. I would say even Rishi had greater mass appeal than Ranbir who is a niche star.

Definition of superstar CANNOT be changed just because boys of today are incapable of achieving heights of past legends. Next is what? Calling someone superstar if his pic gets most likes on Insta? 🤣

Give me a break.

Ranbir cannot stand one day in small towns, single screens. Zero mass appeal. His attempts at massy films like Besharam and Shamshera always fail. Always.

He always has to rely on urban unmarried guy, having issues with girl or family, to sail his boat.

Even SRK has given hits like Josh, Pathaan, Darr, Baazigar, Karan Arjun, Koyla, Don series despite mostly been labeled a romantic hero. And Aamir, Salman gave hits like Dhoom3, Judwaa, Ghulam, Ghajini, Dabangg, Bodyguard, Ready etc despite being mostly labeled romantic heroes due to their early films in 90s.

Hrithik has given non romantic hits like War, Agneepath, Dhoom 2 and never remained in KNPH mode. Hrithik's biggest success has been to be able to pull off remake of an iconic, National award winning AB Sr film and still get accepted as he did in Agneepath and rise above comparisons. Whereas remakes by others such as Ram Charan in remake of Zanjeer, failed big time.

Show me which new overgrown manchild heroes have done such work?

They are INCAPABLE. Period. It does not take reaching age of 40 and still not doing what seniors managed earlier.

How many all time blockbusters and highest grossing films of year and top grosser in single screens, overseas has Ranbir or any new guy given? Do they have appeal where only name alone is enough to sell tickets?

Ranbirs, Ranveer or others have phases. Get labeled new kings after just one or two hits or when there is no competition and big stars are not releasing films or there is lockdown.