Viru is a colourful male 😀😀 - Page 33

Originally posted by: Sab07

On paper I agree that that is what they want to show.

I really wanted to feel bad for him BUT I could not.
The abandonment was asked for. Afterall he married PL! How can Sai even ask anything? She knew what she did he knew and still. And his moving on act did no good. That has really left bitter taste. I wanted to enjoy the episode and feel intensity but the hugs n near kisses n tear catching etc pulled me back.

See Sai’s wish was PL stay away from her child n husband. But he disrespected her even in death- marrying PL and adopting a child and naming him Vinu. That was the last thing Sai wanted and he kind of went out of the way and did that. If I came back n found out my husband did exactly I did not want him to after I died - that leaves no room for discussion for me.


Having said that- Today’s episode screams that on paper story is solid. But they ruined in execution

They should have shown PL leaving CN after Sai n Vinu’s death n few years later she meets Virat n help with adoption. But they shoved Virat still being bff, sharing his pain with her, wanting to make her happy (but to but convo) was all his own ask.

And everything after Savi reveal we all know. like most say1 this after Savi reveal would have looked still digestible but now is late. It is not as impactful as it could have been otherwise

I don’t know if it’s execution issue or it was purposely done to rile up audiences

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Agree Sai did show her rights on him after their marriage till pyaari cheez dialogue and after remarriage too but I guess V expected Sai to at least confront him and show her rights on him post leap . He repeatedly kept asking her to question him but she never did which made him feel she doesn’t want him anymore as she never came back to him and was uneffected by his second marriage .

One thing I noticed was pre leap initially Virat’s characterization was well thought and it didn’t come across as him crossing his limits with P though he had some residual feelings . They subtly brought out the difference between Sai and P for him . One such example was the headache scene where for Sai he gave her a head massage though they were not in love but it kind of showed he is comfortable with Sai and on other hand for Pakhi he just gave medicines showing his concern for a friend . The distinction was very clear . This is what attracted me to the show where a ML was not irresponsible by drinking around , making passes at his ex after losing her . Virat handled his break up gracefully and at same time didn’t ignore his newly married wife . He was responsible enough to ensure his wife was taken care of and her education doesn’t suffer . Though credit goes to KD but Vankar did add some of his touches to make V even more lovable than Rono . I have seen in KD , Emon Rono first night scene was about Rono’s attraction towards Emon but in Sairat case the attraction was subtle and showed V as understanding husband than a horny man .

Seeing post leap execution , I wonder is this the same team who gave us such nice scenes . Post leap it felt like they purposely added cringe scenes for negative hype .

She did tell him that Did I ask you why you married Patralekha who is Vinayak after Pakhi came to KK he told her it's long story but tell me about your association with Jagtap. It's like Sai always owes him explanation not him.

I haven't understood his issue with Sai at all post leap. What exactly was he so bitter & angry towards her. He thought Sai moved on life? Had another child with another man or Savi belonging to some other man didn't matter but her association or affair friendship whatever with Jagtap or Savi being Jagy's daughter? But he used to mention of Sai taking help of Jagtap who killed his brother. Then it continued after he getting to know about Savi's parentage... Infact after that too he used to think Sai maybe friends with him like before the cafe scene between Sai & Pakhi.

I agree & disagree both. Here Virat's charecter was made too lenient towards Pakhi even preleap. Unnecessary cringe with Pakhi, changed the mirchi episode completely here with their creativity They did certain things better here than KD but they cut short or completely skipped or lost the translation of many of major Ronno Imon sequences. Forget the physical intimacy part even the raw passion & angst didn't come out. Ofc acting plays a huge part also vision and direction. Madhumita Sarkar is too brilliant of an actress. Watch the scene in KD where Imon tells Ronno about RK will never go away between them the last fight at night before Imon leaves & gets into accident or the hotel room fight between them after divorce proceedings in 1st Shruti track, Ronno tells imon I'm your husband. Ghum mein it was awful both scenes & pathetic acting by both the leads here.

Initially Ronno and Imon ka arc growth was better to me whereas SaiRat ka was slow but got better with time but Sai's character was extremely inconsistent unlike Imon who never went ahead reciprocating or let Ronno move towards her here Sai would just forget or act like a completely different person after letting Virat hug her, kiss her in an emotional & intimate way after her first accident, hug her, let him kiss on forehead before he was leaving for mission before saree drama or her moving closer for the kiss in honeymoon track in MB. After all that Sai went like hamari shaadi shirf ek deal hai 🤣Imon wasn't like that ever. Sai was so confusing also her character is way too tonned down version of Imon which I didn't like at all considering Chavans & Pakhi were 10000 times worse than Chatterjees and RK!

Originally posted by: mysticriver

I agree & disagree both. Here Virat's charecter was made too lenient towards Pakhi even preleap. Unnecessary cringe with Pakhi, changed the mirchi episode completely here with their creativity They did certain things better here than KD but they cut short or completely skipped or lost the translation of many of major Ronno Imon sequences. Forget the physical intimacy part even the raw passion & angst didn't come out. Ofc acting plays a huge part also vision and direction. Madhumita Sarkar is too brilliant of an actress. Watch the scene in KD where Imon tells Ronno about RK will never go away between them the last fight at night before Imon leaves & gets into accident or the hotel room fight between them after divorce proceedings in 1st Shruti track, Ronno tells imon I'm your husband. Ghum mein it was awful both scenes & pathetic acting by both the leads here.

Initially Ronno and Imon ka arc growth was better to me whereas SaiRat ka was slow but got better with time but Sai's character was extremely inconsistent unlike Imon who never went ahead reciprocating or let Ronno move towards her here Sai would just forget or act like a completely different person after letting Virat hug her, kiss her in an emotional & intimate way after her first accident, hug her, let him kiss on forehead before he was leaving for mission before saree drama or her moving closer for the kiss in honeymoon track in MB. After all that Sai went like hamari shaadi shirf ek deal hai 🤣Imon wasn't like that ever. Sai was so confusing also her character is way too tonned down version of Imon which I didn't like at all considering Chavans & Pakhi were 10000 times worse than Chatterjees and RK!

Even in KD they showed Emon’s closeness with Rono before confession right . The cuddling in hotel room during their anniversary celebration and just before Rono left for his mission during Sari drama showed more intimacy than Sairat ever had even after confession. Here we found more ITV romance like forehead kiss and hug but in KD they showed proper sexual tension between btw them . Rono Emon sat close to eo on bed even while having a casual discussion while Sairat never had such type of intimacy . I feel the actors in KD were lot more comfortable and direction matters too .

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

The conflict between Sai and Virat was always on how they react to same scenarios . Both expect the other person to react the way they did . Sai is not someone who will fight for Virat or even question him if she knew he is into someone . Even in pre leap Sai had made up her mind that V loved Pakhi and would never claim her rights as his wife because she felt unless V gives her the right she won’t go behind him though she had feelings for him . On the other hand Virat was different though there was a deal he felt he had rights on her as her husband and never shied from exerting it . Virat expects Sai to behave like he did during Ajinkya case whereas Sai expects Virat not to cross boundaries like her during deal phase . Virat always misunderstood Sai’s approach as her not having feelings for him .

: Then why he had issues whenever she confronted him about Shruti or Pakhi.

Also, I don't logic of having anger towards Sai for losing Vinu! Wasn't he mourning death of both of them?

And what exactly changed him right now!

Originally posted by: mysticriver

The conflict between Sai and Virat was always on how they react to same scenarios . Both expect the other person to react the way they did . Sai is not someone who will fight for Virat or even question him if she knew he is into someone . Even in pre leap Sai had made up her mind that V loved Pakhi and would never claim her rights as his wife because she felt unless V gives her the right she won’t go behind him though she had feelings for him . On the other hand Virat was different though there was a deal he felt he had rights on her as her husband and never shied from exerting it . Virat expects Sai to behave like he did during Ajinkya case whereas Sai expects Virat not to cross boundaries like her during deal phase . Virat always misunderstood Sai’s approach as her not having feelings for him .

: Then why he had issues whenever she confronted him about Shruti or Pakhi.

Also, I don't logic of having anger towards Sai for losing Vinu! Wasn't he mourning death of both of them?

And what exactly changed him right now!

When he thought he lost Sai and Vinu in the accident . He was heartbroken losing Sai and infront of that nothing mattered not even Vinu’s death but when he saw she was alive but never reached out to him he started blaming her for leaving him which led to losing Vinu. When Sai was considering dead he was in guilt and held himself responsible for not stopping them but after knowing Sai was alive his anger made him blame Sai for leaving him with Vinu which could have been avoided if she understood him . I don’t think he blamed her for the accident but for leaving home .Even Sai blamed him in case of Vinu which doesn’t make sense as it was an accident but she blamed him for not stopping her . I have seen similar behavior in real life too .

Until his confrontation with Karishma he believed Sai was wrong in failing to understand his situation for bailing out kit kit Lekha but after listening to how a third person who is totally neutral in this case perceived the situation he might have realized he was only thinking from his POV and never realized how his action came across . Karishma blamed him for choosing his ex gf over wife and until then he never understood how he treated the wife here . Unless he flips again I believe that was start of his realization and after knowing Vinu the hard feelings both Sairat had for each other was gone .

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Agree with you on this . It was hit and a miss kind here . Rono and Emon’s passion was unmatched in any of the ghum versions . Sairat were subdued and I feel it was done purposely to show their bond was mostly emotional and playful than physical. KD though had very less romantic scenes but the ones they showed screamed of raw passion between them . Rono was ruthless towards RK but here they wanted to show Virat being understanding and advising Pakhi to move on . He remained her friend until the Pulkit track where P came to his room and suggested EMA in indirect way . Those additional scenes during Basant Panchami were to show V being understanding of P’s predicament. I actually liked this version than KD as I couldn’t understand how Rono who was in love with RK suddenly detached himself from her even as a friend and was attracted to Emon from day one . Here it was slow progression with logical reasons . From Pulkit drama Virat kept moving away from P as a friend to a point that he ignored her presence completely in Shruthi’s track . He confronted everyone including Karishma in the hospital post land mine accident but he didn’t bother to ask P showing he never expected anything from her . He was done with her . I know the next question will be why was he protective of P after Samrat came back . I never saw it that way . Whatever he did was for Samrat . Samrat was MU him and he didn’t wanted to add more fuel to it . By end of cafe conversation, P pretended to give Samrat a try and he didn’t wanted to spoil that . If we notice he never tried to involve himself in Samrat Pakhi relationship and never defended P as her friend . He shared the conclusion that came to in the cafe and left it to them to handle it . Until surrogacy track V ignored P loyally .

Even in KD they showed Emon’s closeness with Rono before confession right . The cuddling in hotel room during their anniversary celebration and just before Rono left for his mission during Sari drama showed more intimacy than Sairat ever had even after confession. Here we found more ITV romance like forehead kiss and hug but in KD they showed proper sexual tension between btw them . Rono Emon sat close to eo on bed even while having a casual discussion while Sairat never had such type of intimacy . I feel the actors in KD were lot more comfortable and direction matters too .

Ronno didn't justify himself to RK after a point from early days itself whereas Virat used to even in college festival hug he was having guilty look seeing Pakhi.

I'd not call that intimacy in those episodes it was Imon clung onto him out of fear. But post confession they were 🔥

I forgot the pre saree drama scene from KD.

Ofc here it's inhibitions played a part due to his rl gf being on the same project also playing 3rd angle tho there were good scenes in Hyderabad episodes & MiMo track.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

The conflict between Sai and Virat was always on how they react to same scenarios . Both expect the other person to react the way they did . Sai is not someone who will fight for Virat or even question him if she knew he is into someone . Even in pre leap Sai had made up her mind that V loved Pakhi and would never claim her rights as his wife because she felt unless V gives her the right she won’t go behind him though she had feelings for him . On the other hand Virat was different though there was a deal he felt he had rights on her as her husband and never shied from exerting it . Virat expects Sai to behave like he did during Ajinkya case whereas Sai expects Virat not to cross boundaries like her during deal phase . Virat always misunderstood Sai’s approach as her not having feelings for him .

: Then why he had issues whenever she confronted him about Shruti or Pakhi.

Also, I don't logic of having anger towards Sai for losing Vinu! Wasn't he mourning death of both of them?

And what exactly changed him right now!

@bold

He expects unwavering trust from her. Because according to him, his principles speak for him :) Also, he was not expecting her to behave as wife during sruthi track. He didnt find reason to explain her about "the kind" of doubts she was having. They never shared physical intimacy to discuss about that kind of betrayal :D. His mind even go there. I believe. By the time, he understood that she was accusing him of having affair, it was out of his hands. She left the house.

They never confessed openly about their love, so didnt know how to tackle that situation. Virat always thought he is not a perfect choice for Sai. That She never desired him.. So all these added to his denial in seeing her jealousy.

Post leap Sai never confronted him directly like he did with Jaggy. She came to conclusion that Virat always loved Pakhi and she came inbetween. Pakhi was/is Sai's mental block.

@red I dont think his anger for losing Vinu is more than her not returning back to him. He just blamed her for losing Vinu, when he saw her living happily in KK. His grouse was that she never came back. After Savi's reveal he was even more mad, because she didnt come back to him knowing that she was carrying their child.

For Sai, it was always Vinu. I hope the boy understands how his mom sacrificed Virat also for his safety. 😭

Originally posted by: mysticriver

Ronno didn't justify himself to RK after a point from early days itself whereas Virat used to even in college festival hug he was having guilty look seeing Pakhi.

I'd not call that intimacy in those episodes it was Imon clung onto him out of fear. But post confession they were 🔥

I forgot the pre saree drama scene from KD.

Ofc here it's inhibitions played a part due to his rl gf being on the same project also playing 3rd angle tho there were good scenes in Hyderabad episodes & MiMo track.

I am always confused about Neil Ayesha’s comfort level . I have cribbed enough during confession for faking a mere peck on cheek but in next scene in their room he was comfortable with forehead kiss and cheek kiss on consummation night . I thought both were uncomfortable with intimacy post leap but in recent FB scenes shown on SBS it doesn’t look like it . Though they have some Cold War they perform their scenes well . In cafe hug and half hug in the forest before church confession I felt Neil was conscious but in the outhouse cleaning he was fine .

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

He wasn’t angry on Sai for confronting him . He was angry on her for giving up on him . He clearly says she wanted to get rid of me though saving job was one of the reasons for divorce . He was hurt that she didn’t trust him , never let him take care of her when sick . He never objected to her behaving like a wife .

When he thought he lost Sai and Vinu in the accident . He was heartbroken losing Sai and infront of that nothing mattered not even Vinu’s death but when he saw she was alive but never reached out to him he started blaming her for leaving him which led to losing Vinu. When Sai was considering dead he was in guilt and held himself responsible for not stopping them but after knowing Sai was alive his anger made him blame Sai for leaving him with Vinu which could have been avoided if she understood him . I don’t think he blamed her for the accident but for leaving home .Even Sai blamed him in case of Vinu which doesn’t make sense as it was an accident but she blamed him for not stopping her . I have seen similar behavior in real life too .

Until his confrontation with Karishma he believed Sai was wrong in failing to understand his situation for bailing out kit kit Lekha but after listening to how a third person who is totally neutral in this case perceived the situation he might have realized he was only thinking from his POV and never realized how his action came across . Karishma blamed him for choosing his ex gf over wife and until then he never understood how he treated the wife here . Unless he flips again I believe that was start of his realization and after knowing Vinu the hard feelings both Sairat had for each other was gone .

I was expecting since leap they'd show him guilty regret the things he said to her in the last fight than anything else!

The one scene that really triggered me the post leap was him sending Sai away from doorstep after accident track. Specially after everything Sai did for Pakhi & he was talking about having gratitude for her blah blah blah... It was very triggering for me than anything else honeymoon pheras anniversary ke shenanigans or other things probably more than 8th December too... a doctor was insulted...

Even before that I didn't understand his mood swings towards Sai in every alternate day for example how he was behaving with her when he made Sai work in orphanage to on next day when he spotted Sai at CN gate.. similarly his behaviour with Pakhi one week felt so distant next week back to square one again...

Originally posted by: mysticriver

I was expecting since leap they'd show him guilty regret the things he said to her in the last fight than anything else!

The one scene that really triggered me the post leap was him sending Sai away from doorstep after accident track. Specially after everything Sai did for Pakhi & he was talking about having gratitude for her blah blah blah... It was very triggering for me than anything else honeymoon pheras anniversary ke shenanigans or other things probably more than 8th December too... a doctor was insulted...

Even before that I didn't understand his mood swings towards Sai in every alternate day for example how he was behaving with her when he made Sai work in orphanage to on next day when he spotted Sai at CN gate.. similarly his behaviour with Pakhi one week felt so distant next week back to square one again...

I have list of scenes that has triggered me and triggers me until now. Somehow I made peace with 8th December but not the HM , accident and recent ones where he fails to draw boundaries.