Respectful Language: 'Aap' Vs 'Tu' - Page 4

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Slightly off topic, but it would be interesting to see the number of folks here


who call their mother tu vs calling her aap


who call their father tu vs calling him aap


I suspect there'll be plenty of folks who call their mother tu, but would struggle to call their father tu despite them being reasonably close to their dads.

Edited by aekiel - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#32

IMO, plural pronouns for a single person are silly. Nobody is a monarch or a sovereign, in a democracy.


Ekvachan for one person/subject/object.

Bahuvachan for more than one person/subject/object.


Grammar should have nothing to do with age or social status. But, if a language has already introduced distinctions where one word is deemed more reverential than others and can't overcome it like English did, everyone should adhere to the formal/respectful second person pronoun so no one gets offended. How they refer to themselves in a first person pronoun ("I" or "the royal we!") is up to them.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: aekiel

Slightly off topic, but it would be interesting to see the number of folks here


who call their mother tu vs calling her aap


who call their father tu vs calling him aap


I suspect there'll be plenty of folks who call their mother tu, but would struggle to call their father tu despite them being reasonably close to their dads.


With few exceptions here and there, Indian society in general is patriarchal in nature. In a patriarchy, the men command respect. Not just the kids, the wives too likely address their husbands in second person plurals while the husbands stick to second person singulars for their wives and kids.


In a debate, we are supposed to furnish facts and figures. I don't have any supporting evidence for my above statement so that makes what I said an opinion 😊

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Posted: 2 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: aekiel

Slightly off topic, but it would be interesting to see the number of folks here


who call their mother tu vs calling her aap


who call their father tu vs calling him aap


I suspect there'll be plenty of folks who call their mother tu, but would struggle to call their father tu despite them being reasonably close to their dads.

I can't participate in your exact poll because my language is Marathi and not Hindi. Marathi tradition is to use for the mother and tumhī for the father.


When I learned to talk in Canada, I used for both my parents. After a few years, my father decided that I had to switch to tumhī for him. I asked why, and as usual, the answer was, that's just what is expected. I complied, but I'm sure the pronoun is no consolation to my father when I argue with him.


I know a Marathi woman who addresses her father as . He tried to tell her it was rude, but she said no, he's singular and tumhī is plural. She has Down Syndrome, so she gets away with being logical.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#35

Someone asking for help with directions shouldn’t be worried about the vernacular


Everyone’s is different

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Posted: 2 years ago
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This wasn't even a patriarchy debate to begin with.... It was more about Hindi speaking people being judgemental where Hindi is not even a prominent language. Just cos it rubbed some Inna Mina dikka the wrong way its not going change. It's a shock to you why expect others to have seizures?

I have problem with people putting jaggery in sambhar and poha....

And people eating h and substituting u for an i out of my name Sanskruthi...

And people not using enough ground nuts and using excess coconut oil in chutney

People singling out kadhipatta out of a dish and throwing it😒

Indian instagrammers cooking onigiri with rice balls substituted with paneer or/and potato and having the audacity of calling it "onigiri"

And my Australian pals calling me Kailani instead of Kalyani

What do y'all suggest I do with them?! 😳

Go the "Et AAP, Brute?" way?🤪

Edited by Sanskruthi - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#37

Please capitalize "Brute" - it's a proper noun, Saṃskṛti!

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Posted: 2 years ago
#38

I don't think just the words "aap" and "tu" can be termed as good or bad...Since Delhi and Mumbai are mentioned here, let me give an example.


Which sentence sounds ruder?

"Aap" nihayti ek number ke ********* ladke hai

"Tu" bohot achcha ladka hai.


😊

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Posted: 2 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

I don't think just the words "aap" and "tu" can be termed as good or bad...Since Delhi and Mumbai are mentioned here, let me give an example.


Which sentence sounds ruder?

"Aap" nihayti ek number ke ********* ladke hai

"Tu" bohot achcha ladka hai.


😊

I just don’t think when you ask someone for help w directions you should start some grammar lecture 😂

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Posted: 2 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

I just don’t think when you ask someone for help w directions you should start some grammar lecture 😂

When my tour guide used the phrase "nouveau cuisine," I told her, "I wanted you to know: cuisine is feminine, so it's nouvelle cuisine."


Adding insult to injury, I said this while handing her a tip.

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