Katha Ankahee -- #8 daily episode DT - Page 53

Originally posted by: Ssp123

Start skipping extras

Extra= not Vian 😎

Now I'm beginning to wonder that many viewers here are Sony Liv subscribers... Because I watch the show at live time on Jio TV where we can't skip😅😅

Besides.. who else thinks that the reaction segment should include this 💯 emoji too... Many a times we agree with some statement but we can only like it and 💯 would be better.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

thanks for writing out the scene and also explaining the meaning. all of it went over my head when I watched the scene and I kept wondering why maharani was talking about one sided love.

for me, one sided love is a negative concept. so you can still love a person even if you didn't get a happy ever but don't become devdas and destroy yourself physically or mentally by getting into addiction or other destructive behaviour. there are also those who use one sided love as a defense to commit crimes -- stalking, harassment, acid throwing -- all of this arises from love. as horrific as it sounds, crime patrol ka inspector reminded me yesterday that many murders are committed in the name of love.

so rather than one sided love, what she was referring to was unconditional love where you might not get recriprocated but still care and do things for the other person. that is an important distinction and what separates viaan from ehsaan.

@ Bold- I 100% agree with you. Personally when I think of one-sided love, I also usually think of stalking, harassment, acid throwing; perhaps because Indian TV/movies have normalised it so much in the name of one-sided love (especially stalking).

I mean, if you imagine someone being in love with you in a one-sided way, I doubt if that particularly invokes any affectionate feelings within you; I would just be extremely uncomfortable with the fact that this person loves me (and I do not).

At the same time, it is possible to showcase one-sided love in a mature and beautiful manner. My all time favourite male character is Aditya Kashyap from Jab We Met. He falls in love with Geet before she falls for him. But one of my favourite dialogue exchange occurs when Geet mentions to him about how he is so fond of her. His response to her was that yes, he is fond of yer, but that should not her problem at all. There was so much beauty and maturity in his character throughout the movie. So yes, occasionally one-sided love can be shown beautifully and not in a creepy way. Like you said, this maturity is perhaps what separates Viaan and Ehsaan.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

romeo and juliet is not really a love story. 🤣

when I was in school, my english teacher asked us this qustion -- "is romeo and juliet a love story?"

we were sufficiently confused and said yes. she then asked us why -- we gave the outline of what we had studied and how they fell in love and died.

again she asked "did romeo love juliet?" . now we were wondering why she is asking us this question and we said yes. she again asked us why we think so and we went through what we had studied.

she then threw the googly -- "so if romeo loved juliet, who was rosalind?"

we were like "who???????????" then, she told us the exact page number (somewhere in act 1) and made us read out the passage. and suffice to say, we were all stupefied and confused.

romeo first proposes to rosalind but she turns him down. so he is depressed and the same night, he falls in love with juliet.

then my english teacher asked -- "was romeo in love with juliet or was romeo in love with the idea of being in love?"

this was us:

our teenage brains were just exploding. we did not have answer to that question.

then one boy asked -- this question won't appear in the exam right? 🤣 🤣

bwahahah... my teacher spared us but she did give us a lot to think about. a class I still remember today.

in this drama, ehsaan is a bit like romeo -- very much in the love with the idea of being in love. basically all the modern day fellas desperate for a girlfriend so they can show off to others how cool they are. not because they actually want a relationship or is interested in that specific woman.

I had no idea about Rosalind. Oh my God. You just murdered my little knowledge about love which i got after reading Romeo Juliet story.😭 😆 woh bhi Valentine's day pe.😭

You know The Taj Mahal was built by the Mughal emperor Shah Jahan in memory of his wife Mumtaz. It's also known as the monument or symbol of love. But as per history Shah Jahan had many wives and mistresses. yeh kaisa pyar hei i used to think how was he so sure that Mumtaz was his true love and rest were just like that. Also Jahangir and Noor Jahan love story was quite famous. But JahanGir also known was Salim,his love story with Anarkali was also very famous. pata nahi yeh kaisa pyar tha.😆

Originally posted by: Nabni_blr31

I had no idea about Rosalind. Oh my God. You just murdered my little knowledge about love which i got after reading Romeo Juliet story.😭 😆 woh bhi Valentine's day pe.😭

You know The Taj Mahal was built by the Mughal emperor Shah Jahan in memory of his wife Mumtaz. It's also known as the monument or symbol of love. But as per history Shah Jahan had many wives and mistresses. yeh kaisa pyar hei i used to think how was he so sure that Mumtaz was his true love and rest were just like that. Also Jahangir and Noor Jahan love story was quite famous. But JahanGir also known was Salim,his love story with Anarkali was also very famous. pata nahi yeh kaisa pyar tha.😆

bwahahah.... well at least such discussions will make all those feeling depressed about this day feel less sad and lonely. 😂

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

thanks for writing out the scene and also explaining the meaning. all of it went over my head when I watched the scene and I kept wondering why maharani was talking about one sided love.

for me, one sided love is a negative concept. so you can still love a person even if you didn't get a happy ever but don't become devdas and destroy yourself physically or mentally by getting into addiction or other destructive behaviour. there are also those who use one sided love as a defense to commit crimes -- stalking, harassment, acid throwing -- all of this arises from love. as horrific as it sounds, crime patrol ka inspector reminded me yesterday that many murders are committed in the name of love.

so rather than one sided love, what she was referring to was unconditional love where you might not get recriprocated but still care and do things for the other person. that is an important distinction and what separates viaan from ehsaan.

Yes both ehsan and viaan are in one sided love. And it was important to bring this topic to differentiate between the two. How ehsan's behaviour is problematic and how Viaan's behaviour is not toxic.

Maharani meant one sided love in positive way. About how Heer ranjha loved each other unconditionally but you are right mostly people think about one sided love as negative phenomenon. Its not at all love to be honest. People use it just as an excuse to commit horrible crimes. They just manifest what they truly are, regressive, violent and crazy. Its not love because love doesn't demand anything in return, it has no expectations.

The movie ae dil hai mushkil glorified so much about one sided love but the actions of hero were saying totally opposite. He was behaving like a stalker, crazy person there. I hated that movie. But unfortunately such movies only glorifies crimes in the name of love.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

romeo and juliet is not really a love story. 🤣

when I was in school, my english teacher asked us this qustion -- "is romeo and juliet a love story?"

we were sufficiently confused and said yes. she then asked us why -- we gave the outline of what we had studied and how they fell in love and died.

again she asked "did romeo love juliet?" . now we were wondering why she is asking us this question and we said yes. she again asked us why we think so and we went through what we had studied.

she then threw the googly -- "so if romeo loved juliet, who was rosalind?"

we were like "who???????????" then, she told us the exact page number (somewhere in act 1) and made us read out the passage. and suffice to say, we were all stupefied and confused.

romeo first proposes to rosalind but she turns him down. so he is depressed and the same night, he falls in love with juliet.

then my english teacher asked -- "was romeo in love with juliet or was romeo in love with the idea of being in love?"

this was us:

our teenage brains were just exploding. we did not have answer to that question.

then one boy asked -- this question won't appear in the exam right? 🤣 🤣

bwahahah... my teacher spared us but she did give us a lot to think about. a class I still remember today.

in this drama, ehsaan is a bit like romeo -- very much in the love with the idea of being in love. basically all the modern day fellas desperate for a girlfriend so they can show off to others how cool they are. not because they actually want a relationship or is interested in that specific woman.

Wow Mango, this is actually quite enlightening. 😯 Why are we doing so many deep studies on the fragile nature of love on Valentine’s Day?! 😭 😂 💔

But your teacher definitely brought up such interesting questions. To be honest, I personally never really considered Romeo Juliet a love story; I just felt like it was too melodramatic and a showoff version of love (I know this might be an unpopular opinion). I just never really was able to understand why Romeo loved Juliet. But I also never actually knew about the Rosalind angle, so that was definitely eye-opening.

Originally posted by: Lethamukund

I am also in with you. I loved the way she explained ek tarfa pyar❤️❤️Maybe I also entered that generation club who you can consider as oldies😉😉

It is a foreshadowing that Viaan will realise his one sided love first. He will confess to Katha and will wait for a whole life time for her to reciprocate.

What Viaan confess to Katha is not important, what is more important is what Katha will see in Viaan that he becomes worthy of her (Baat ye nahi hai ki Ranjhe ne Heer se kya haha ki woh Ranjhe ki ho gayi, Baat ye hai ki Heer ne aise kya dekha Ranjhe mein ki woh khud Ranjha ban gaya). So Viaan has to be patient, prove with his actions that she will fall in love with him. That will make him worthy of her love. Its a long long road ahead for Viaan before he reach his destination, Katha.

Its going to be very slow burn, we should also be as patient as Viaan to enjoy the show.

If you are here for the fire chemistry scenes between leads, I think you will be disappointed. But this story is going to be a rare love story of two people, who love each other unconditionally, the crazy love only the creator of universe and the one in that love understands

I am in for it guys.

I love the way you explained this😊our Viaan is slowly realising things. Looking forward to the next ep.

Originally posted by: amrapali2

Wow Mango, this is actually quite enlightening. 😯 Why are we doing so many deep studies on the fragile nature of love on Valentine’s Day?! 😭 😂 💔

But your teacher definitely brought up such interesting questions. To be honest, I personally never really considered Romeo Juliet a love story; I just felt like it was too melodramatic and a showoff version of love (I know this might be an unpopular opinion). I just never really was able to understand why Romeo loved Juliet. But I also never actually knew about the Rosalind angle, so that was definitely eye-opening.

kekeke.... my english teacher was rather clever in that she wanted us as teenagers to understand that infatuation cannot be confused with love. we live in a time and age where we are obsessed with the idea of love but we don't even know what that is really. in many ways, it means different things for people

for some, love is like an object that one must buy. ehsaan is that type person who will fall out of love immediately and dump a woman viciously.

then there are those who are lonely and desperate to be in love. so they seek love in all the wrong places. they want someone who will give them a hug and make them feel valued. so love for them is about self-worth. we see that with the preview of yuvi where he is so unhappy because of papaG and reet

then there are those for whom love is a chapter that is beautiful regardless of the reality. so nightie mama insists that her love story is beautiful. their eyes sparkle and they look a little mad for looking so longingly at a love that was all by accounts destructive. so she is in love with a romanticized version of her own love story.

but yea, when we speak about valentine's day, it always seems cheesy to me. what is romantic about roses really? as shakespeare says, "will a rose by any other name smell just as sweet?" -- when there are so many plants and flowers God has created, why do we donate such meaning to this flower only? what is romantic about chocolates? by that account, we can make anything sweet as being romantic.

if we look at marketing, love is used as a phenemenon to sell things. the whole tradition of a diamond engagement ring was created by debeers company to sell their diamonds following WWII. so they marketed it as something romantic because people didn't have money to splurge on something like a diamond. no one was interested. but mix it with romance and all of a sudden, it became this thing to so. now decades later, people think diamond rings is a real tradition and something that has to be done.

my point is that we are in love with the idea of being in love and it manifests itself in different ways. in many ways, we are lonely and in want of relationship, companionship and love. but just like viaan, we are not sure how to go about it and so hurt ourselves and sometimes other people along the way. that to me is the real story of this drama -- how does a man who does not understand women or relationships fall in love? how does he discover the positive sides of love and not just be blinded by the negatives?

so yes, love is not all rosy and I think we should discuss the other side as well.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

kekeke.... my english teacher was rather clever in that she wanted us as teenagers to understand that infatuation cannot be confused with love. we live in a time and age where we are obsessed with the idea of love but we don't even know what that is really. in many ways, it means different things for people

for some, love is like an object that one must buy. ehsaan is that type person who will fall out of love immediately and dump a woman viciously.

then there are those who are lonely and desperate to be in love. so they seek love in all the wrong places. they want someone who will give them a hug and make them feel valued. so love for them is about self-worth. we see that with the preview of yuvi where he is so unhappy because of papaG and reet

then there are those for whom love is a chapter that is beautiful regardless of the reality. so nightie mama insists that her love story is beautiful. their eyes sparkle and they look a little mad for looking so longingly at a love that was all by accounts destructive. so she is in love with a romanticized version of her own love story.

but yea, when we speak about valentine's day, it always seems cheesy to me. what is romantic about roses really? as shakespeare says, "will a rose by any other name smell just as sweet?" -- when there are so many plants and flowers God has created, why do we donate such meaning to this flower only? what is romantic about chocolates? by that account, we can make anything sweet as being romantic.

if we look at marketing, 'love' is used as a phenemenon to sell things. the whole tradition of a diamond engagement ring was created by debeers company to sell their diamonds following WWII. so they marketed it as something romantic because people didn't have money to splurge on something like a diamond. no one was interested. but mix it with romance and all of a sudden, it became this thing to so. now decades later, people think diamond rings is a real tradition and something that has to be done.

my point is that we are in love with the idea of being in love and it manifests itself in different ways. in many ways, we are lonely and in want of relationship, companionship and love. but just like viaan, we are not sure how to go about it and so hurt ourselves and sometimes other people along the way. that to me is the real story of this drama -- how does a man who does not understand women or relationships fall in love? how does he discover the positive sides of love and not just be blinded by the negatives?

so yes, love is not all rosy and I think we should discuss the other side as well.

You write so well as usual, Mango! I definitely agree with you on your notions of love.

Not just it being Valentine’s Day today, but there are literally soo many weddings happening recently. Like literally everyone seems to be getting married. 😂 So of course, many people out there can easily feel lonely, and might seek the wrong the ideas of love as a result. I think it is quite important for us to get clear in our heads and introspect, so that we seek more healthy and genuine ideas of love.

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