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Posted: 3 years ago
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The people comparing this to the Johnny Depp case need to give it a rest. Amber Heard had a criminal record, she also has a history of domestically abusing her partners. In addition to all that there are public records of her lying throughout her career.


Johnny Depp did not have a history of domestic abuse. All of his former partners came out to support him and said he was never violent towards them. He also has a history of being very reticent and extremely child friendly (hosting fundraisers for childrens charities, dressing up as his characters and visiting sick children in hospital, etc).


This is why so many people knew Amber Heards accusations were probably lies.


Feroze Khan has a history of domestic violence. He was violent towards Sajal as well. He also has a history of being arrogant and difficult.


Alizey - there has never been a single negative report on her. She’s always kept a low profile and to herself. When she has made a public statement or posted anything publicly, it’s always been non-problematic.


Feroze is obviously at fault here and needs to be held accountable.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: BlueWaters20

The people comparing this to the Johnny Depp case need to give it a rest. Amber Heard had a criminal record, she also has a history of domestically abusing her partners. In addition to all that there are public records of her lying throughout her career.


Johnny Depp did not have a history of domestic abuse. All of his former partners came out to support him and said he was never violent towards them. He also has a history of being very reticent and extremely child friendly (hosting fundraisers for childrens charities, dressing up as his characters and visiting sick children in hospital, etc).


This is why so many people knew Amber Heards accusations were probably lies.


Feroze Khan has a history of domestic violence. He was violent towards Sajal as well. He also has a history of being arrogant and difficult.


Alizey - there has never been a single negative report on her. She’s always kept a low profile and to herself. When she has made a public statement or posted anything publicly, it’s always been non-problematic.


Feroze is obviously at fault here and needs to be held accountable.

Majority now feel amber heard was right ?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Majority now feel amber heard was right ?


No. Noone feels amber was innocent. What they do feel is that Johnny wasn't the victim he portrayed to be. They both were violent towards each other. The media trial basically made Johnny a charming victim which was all sorts of wrong.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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No. Noone feels amber was innocent. What they do feel is that Johnny wasn't the victim he portrayed to be. They both were violent towards each other. The media trial basically made Johnny a charming victim which was all sorts of wrong.

It is kind of obvious that Johnny and amber were in an abusive toxic relationship and both were at fault. Amber was stupid to put all the blame on johnny to gain sympathy and popularity. She was never a good actress or had a good career. Being Johnny depp's wife was her biggest achievement and when that went away she needed something else to stay relevant.

If amber was a gold digger then Johnny was going through midlife crisis and married a very young and beautiful girl to make himself feel good. Nobody told a 50+ Johnny depp to get married to a 20something struggling actress who don't have a good reputation to start with. Its mentioned that his friends warned him but he didn't listen.

People forget that Johnny was found guilty of physical assault by UK court and the recent case was of defamation and not physical abuse. She did cause damage to his reputation by twisting the truth and lying. Johnny depp being Johnny depp hired the best lawyers and best PR in the world to gain the public sympathy.


The funniest thing is now whenever a girl comes out and speaks up about abusive relationship she is labelled as an amber heard but the guy isnt a Harvey Weinstein or a Roman polenski or a wooden Allen or 100 other men that were convicted or accused of abuse

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Majority now feel amber heard was right ?

Nope. It was proven that she lied about physical abuse. She physically abused him, there was evidence of this. And Johnny verbally abused her. Her claim was physical abuse, not verbal. So she lied, and he was innocent of the allegations she made.
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: spnfan

It is kind of obvious that Johnny and amber were in an abusive toxic relationship and both were at fault. Amber was stupid to put all the blame on johnny to gain sympathy and popularity. She was never a good actress or had a good career. Being Johnny depp's wife was her biggest achievement and when that went away she needed something else to stay relevant.

If amber was a gold digger then Johnny was going through midlife crisis and married a very young and beautiful girl to make himself feel good. Nobody told a 50+ Johnny depp to get married to a 20something struggling actress who don't have a good reputation to start with. Its mentioned that his friends warned him but he didn't listen.

People forget that Johnny was found guilty of physical assault by UK court and the recent case was of defamation and not physical abuse. She did cause damage to his reputation by twisting the truth and lying. Johnny depp being Johnny depp hired the best lawyers and best PR in the world to gain the public sympathy.


The funniest thing is now whenever a girl comes out and speaks up about abusive relationship she is labelled as an amber heard but the guy isnt a Harvey Weinstein or a Roman polenski or a wooden Allen or 100 other men that were convicted or accused of abuse

He wasn’t found guilty of physical assault in the UK. People get confused about this. The UK trial was not Heard vs Depp to prove physical abuse. The trail was Depp vs New Group News Papers ltd for defamation. The trail was to determine whether The Sun knowingly and willingly lied about Depp being a ‘wife beater’ and therefore ‘defamed’ him. The judge found that because public allegations against Depp had been made, prior to The Sun article, accusing him of assaulting his ex wife The Sun did not defame him or cause any reputational damage.

The case in the US was defamation, and for Depp to win the following the Jury had to unanimously agree that the allegations of physical abuse against Depp:

  • had been made or published by Ms Amber Heard
  • were about Mr Depp
  • were false
  • had a defamatory implication about Mr Depp which
  • was designed and intended by Ms Heard and
  • conveyed a defamatory implication to someone who saw it other than Mr Depp

So the trial was about physical abuse, and he was found to be innocent of all physical abuse allegations made against him by Amber.

I watched the trial all the way through so it gets frustrating when people misconstrue what the trial was about and what the jury found.

I agree with your last paragraph though. Amber Heard lied, that doesn’t mean all women lie. The vast majority of women who speak out about being victims of domestic violence are telling the truth, and should not be discouraged. Weinstein and Polanski have both been found guilty by a court of law and should be doing time. It’s sickening that Polanski is still on the run and the majority of Hollywood is still dying to work with him. Allen is clearer a predator and paedophile. The only proof you need is that he married his step-daughter, he deserves to rot.

Edited by BlueWaters20 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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I didn't understand the MLO part. So was the police called before? Did the abusing Sajal part just come out now or was it known 4 yrs before?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: BlueWaters20

He wasn’t found guilty of physical assault in the UK. People get confused about this. The UK trial was not Heard vs Depp to prove physical abuse. The trail was Depp vs New Group News Papers ltd for defamation. The trail was to determine whether The Sun knowingly and willingly lied about Depp being a ‘wife beater’ and therefore ‘defamed’ him. The judge found that because public allegations against Depp had been made, prior to The Sun article, accusing him of assaulting his ex wife The Sun did not defame him or cause any reputational damage.

The case in the US was defamation, and for Depp to win the following the Jury had to unanimously agree that the allegations of physical abuse against Depp:

  • had been made or published by Ms Amber Heard
  • were about Mr Depp
  • were false
  • had a defamatory implication about Mr Depp which
  • was designed and intended by Ms Heard and
  • conveyed a defamatory implication to someone who saw it other than Mr Depp

So the trial was about physical abuse, and he was found to be innocent of all physical abuse allegations made against him by Amber.

I watched the trial all the way through so it gets frustrating when people misconstrue what the trial was about and what the jury found.

I agree with your last paragraph though. Amber Heard lied, that doesn’t mean all women lie. The vast majority of women who speak out about being victims of domestic violence are telling the truth, and should not be discouraged. Weinstein and Polanski have both been found guilty by a court of law and should be doing time. It’s sickening that Polanski is still on the run and the majority of Hollywood is still dying to work with him. Allen is clearer a predator and paedophile. The only proof you need is that he married his step-daughter, he deserves to rot.

In that case 12 out of 14 incidence of violence claimed by amber was proven right by the court. Even in the recent case the leaked documents prove they both were physically abusive towards each other. That's why a lot of hwood celebs including RDJ unliked Johnny depp's insta post regarding his win. Even there was a conversation b/w depp and his friend about killing amber heard in the most cruel way and then having intercourse with her dead corps or something as nasty as that. It wasnt taken seriously as it was just a conversation b/w two people but only a person with a twisted mind and that much hatred inside will say stuff like that. Jonny depp is an amazing actor but he isnt as nice as his PR portrayed him during the trail. There were news of his unprofessional and toxic behaviour on sets and drug abuse way before amber accused him of physical assult. He is even friends with guys that have been accused of sexual assult and grooming by multiple women.

Both of them washed their dirty laundry in public and the one with more power and money won.

That polanski guy publically admitted he likes girls younger than 17-18 in an interview and still A-list actors wanted to work with him🤬. He got a standing ovation at oscar. When i read about the dark side of Hollywood it looks more misogynist and sexist than bollywood. Pedophilia seems to be such a common thing. Drew Barrymore used to party with older guys when she was 9 or 10 and used to drink. She had a shitty mother but which adult in their right mind would offer drinks to a child that young? Hell, who allows kids in these parties in the first place? Also reading about the torture child artists turned actors faced by the industry and media is sickening.


Coming to feroz khan, i read he can only meet the kids twice a month and that too after submitting his passport. I don't think a court will order like that if it was just a normal divorce case.

Edited by spnfan - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: BurakZeynep

I didn't understand the MLO part. So was the police called before? Did the abusing Sajal part just come out now or was it known 4 yrs before?

I heard about him abusing sajal through galaxy lollywood.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: spnfan

In that case 12 out of 14 incidence of violence claimed by amber was proven right by the court. Even in the recent case the leaked documents prove they both were physically abusive towards each other. That's why a lot of hwood celebs including RDJ unliked Johnny depp's insta post regarding his win. Even there was a conversation b/w depp and his friend about killing amber heard in the most cruel way and then having intercourse with her dead corps or something as nasty as that. It wasnt taken seriously as it was just a conversation b/w two people but only a person with a twisted mind and that much hatred inside will say stuff like that. Jonny depp is an amazing actor but he isnt as nice as his PR portrayed him during the trail. There were news of his unprofessional and toxic behaviour on sets and drug abuse way before amber accused him of physical assult. He is even friends with guys that have been accused of sexual assult and grooming by multiple women.

Both of them washed their dirty laundry in public and the one with more power and money won.

That polanski guy publically admitted he likes girls younger than 17-18 in an interview and still A-list actors wanted to work with him🤬. He got a standing ovation at oscar. When i read about the dark side of Hollywood it looks more misogynist and sexist than bollywood. Pedophilia seems to be such a common thing. Reese Witherspoon used to party with older guys when she was 9 or 10 and used to drink. She had a shitty mother but which adult in their right mind would offer drinks to a child that young? Hell, who allows kids in these parties in the first place? Also reading about the torture child artists turned actors faced by the industry and media is sickening.


Coming to feroz khan, i read he can only meet the kids twice a month and that too after submitting his passport. I don't think a court will order like that if it was just a normal divorce case.

12 out of 14 incidents were not proven right by the court. The judge basically said that there was sufficient ‘evidence’ for The Sun to believe 12 out of 14 incidents of the abuse. The evidence being Amber Heards op-Ed, public accusations, the pictures released to the public when she first made the accusations (that were proven fake in the US trial) and the video of him banging cabinets in the kitchen. So no, the UK trial did not ‘prove’ physical abuse. The US trial, however, did prove there was no physical abuse from Depp.

Celebs unliked Instagram reports because the the metoo movement has unfortunately lost sight of any nuance and is pressuring people to take accusations of violence as de facto evidence of violence. The people who unliked posts did so in a a matter of hours, you don’t get new information in that short period, what you do get is advice from your publicists to keep your mouth zipped and not take sides because there could be some backlash no matter who you side with. Also RDJ didn’t like or unlike any posts. Have you watched the trial, because most of what you are saying is completely inaccurate?

The accusation about ‘bad behaviour’ on set was that he comes on set drunk and needs his lines fed to him through an earpiece. This was debunked by multiple witnesses at the trial. And the only person he’s friends with who has been accused of abuse is Marilyn Manson. There’s no such thing as ‘guilt by association’, if there was you should be equally critical of the likes of Kate Winslet, Harrison Ford, Adrian Brady, Natalie Portman, Tilda Swinton, Emma Thompson, all of whom literally signed a petition saying they know Roman Polanski raped a child but he should be forgiven and cleared of all charges because his parents are Holocaust survivors! You should also be critical of every single celebrity who continues to support Wood Allan (ranging from Selena Gomez, Emma Stone and Scarlett Johnson to Justin Timberlake, Jessie Eisenberg and Jeff Goldblum). These people aren’t just ‘friends’ with someone accused of abuse, they literally stood up for proven and convicted peadophiles and sexual predators. That’s far worse. Johnny Depp is not perfect, he has issues but it’s been proven that he is not a ‘wife beater’ so it’s unfair to make out he is a physical abuser.

I agree with everything else you’re saying about Polanski and Feroze.

Edited by BlueWaters20 - 3 years ago

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