GHKPM WU & Episode Daily Discussion #63 - Page 101

Originally posted by: szsiddiqa

Neil has shown many times that he is a good actor, but ...

Could it be that for an actor who they act with, impacts their performance! (his acting is so much better with Ayesha comparatively)

Or

When Neil-Aish were married, there were suggestions that she need to take acting lessons from her husband (his acting is so much better earlier). But she has given him non-acting lessons 😢.

Or

Virat is embarrassed, what he couldn't do in 10m, Sai accomplished in 10d, and didn't know how to react (or act!)

Or

Bad director

Or

Simply having a bad day.

Hey!!

Not at all in a mood to fight with anyone but just saying that I have seen your earlier comments you always keep saying that Ayesha is a bad actor n all but I am following this show from a long time now and can definitely say that Ayesha breath's Sai yesterday episode is a proof. Not being anyone's lawyer here and it's definitely your right to speak what is right but it is not always good to just justify your idol by making the other feel less ( definitely we won't feel because we know the person we adore very well )

P.s. I don't stan anyone on this show but just saying what I came across

Originally posted by: Pakhisingh

Hey!!

Not at all in a mood to fight with anyone but just saying that I have seen your earlier comments you always keep saying that Ayesha is a bad actor n all but I am following this show from a long time now and can definitely say that Ayesha breath's Sai yesterday episode is a proof. Not being anyone's lawyer here and it's definitely your right to speak what is right but it is not always good to just justify your idol by making the other feel less ( definitely we won't feel because we know the person we adore very well )

P.s. I don't stan anyone on this show but just saying what I came across

I meant when he is acting with Ayesha, he acts/emotes better. Not comparing with Ayesha's acting. She definitely is a good actor and emotes very well.

well Saee should also attempt suicide. then they will give the child back to her? what was virat & family thinking there

I agree with your take on the wrap up episode.

Despite the content, Ghum has one thing as constant. They go for things that are not not the usual occurrence in ITV. Even if they do their treatment is different. Good or bad is debatable.

Hence accident looks so cliché. Therefore none of us were thinking on those lines We were still playing around the case and court and its outcome.

Another thing, we can complain and file cases on people, we cant do that to unfortunate incidents. So whatever happens by virtue of these incidents have none but destiny to blame. How convenient!!!

Coming to predictions, not sure if you had a chance to read mine. But my primary thought was around the Sai and baby missing to be misleading that Sai left with the baby. The obvious with the threat promo.

I agree memory loss seems too far fetched. This also means she cannot pursue her profession. Which is such a waste. Nope.

Yes, P might have quite possibly ran off with the baby in Sai disguise.

But with that I have a contradiction, which also gives me a lead for another theory :-)

Even if she did, she would do so to mislead them into believing that Sai took the child. Which would anyways be proven wrong once Sai returns. Misleading for buying time. This would only hold good for stealing the baby but not for escaping. Why would she then take GC bus?

So trying to place my logic to answer these questions. P hatched this plan. She runs away with the baby and gets into the GC bus. All this in disguise as Sai. Everyone believes Sai ran away with the baby to GC. The bus meets with an accident and Sai and baby are announced dead.

P returns or is found on the spot unconscious with the baby.

She says she saw Sai and went after her and stole the baby from her. (No one would beat her up for it this time considering her move saved the baby). Or she followed Sai in that bus, but survived the accident and saved the baby.

Second part of the her plan. Sai has been kidnapped by P. She is kept in captivity and gives birth to the child there. And she lives in hope that V will rescue them one day. Tying it up with the promo, P is in CN and Sai in P's confinement. Hence the child has not seen her father but Sai has told her everything about him. They both are waiting for V. With P saving the baby CN and V are thankful and restore the baby into her care.

Accident could either be planned by P or a coincidence. She would have planned something else but this accident just happened to fall in place for her plans to be executed perfectly.

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

I agree…. I feel all of the cast are in their day to day … really finish the script for that day and leave. I mean who can blame them if we think of our work we also would do the necessary and leave right! I don’t bring my work home.

Not bringing your work home is different than being at work and just going through the motions only because you have bills to pay. These actors all look like they just exist. 8-10 people gathered but only 4 people get legit SS- Sai, V, pp, n bk. Rest all have some token lines. Usmein bhi do called team Sai gets least useful role. Nobody looked legit affected. Everyone just said the line and left. This revelation of pp being a criminal and essentially having vested interests and STILL being interested in her devar Virat rather than grieving her dead husband as she has been pretending- is a big deal! But the way its been shot and broadcast it seems like just a formality they need to just wrap up.

Barely any outrage from even Ashwini and Ninad, let alone V.

Its like everyone is oblivious to the implications of what pp has done.

Its not just the obsession to be surrogate but what that means which is really something major and quite embarrassing.

And given that they seem to have set a deadline for the telecast of the leap, its very likely that they will rush through the next episodes.

After pp's arrest, there should be at minimum one full episode for a V- Sai conversation. SO much happened, the least Sai (and audience) deserves is 1 full episode of him introspecting, regretting and discussing everything that happened and how Sai feels and what he enabled even if it was "unknowingly" . But they are in a tearing hurry to just whitewash pp, bring her back to CN. So i can totally picture V going up to Sai and being like- ya i know you are upset but the important thing is our baby is here and we cant deny that PP helped us have a baby, so please get over it and withdraw your complaint. He will probably spend more time stressing on how much pain she went through and how Sai herself saw how the delivery was difficult and how it has all impacted her psychologically forgetting that it is exactly why Pp was a poor Candidate to start with. She was too "personally" invested in HIM and that should raise major alarm bells for V but it wont, she had no kids of her own, neither any employment or purpose in life etc to shift her focus away from the baby. Pp has defeated the whole purpose of surrogacy by saying that she will raise the child herself! And V thinks this is ok.

V will as usual minimize Sai's pain at being asked to handover her baby to a suicidal woman to raise who openly challenged her that she was going to snatch ber baby. Sai trusted V's judgement on pp and stayed patient and has dearly paid the price for it.

But in return we are not gonna get an emotional angst filled spouse conversations to discuss these issues.

C'mon.. why do we even watch this "drama" then?

When roles were reversed and V was angry at Sai for not "trusting" him, it was days and weeks of Sai getting insulted and mocked by not just him but his whole damn family.

But now, for Sai we won't even get 1 episode of him apologizing because we know they are talking about Sai being missing and leap starting on monday itself. So we have 1 or 2 episodes to rush through everything.. if its mahasaptah we may get a 3rd bonus episode.

This is utterly ridiculous behavior.

They built up this whole track to this high point and now instead of addressing it they'll just wrap up. Kya bakwaas hai.

The only points audience is actually looking forward to, get rushed or given stepmother treatment.

I wont be surprised if the Sai-V conversation will have zero intimacy - no hug, no hand holding. Maybe V will be a body double also. They have done it before in crucial scenes like pregnancy reveal.

Or they will keep cutting V-Sai scene to ghusao pp crying in jail or bk disvussing how to save khandaam izzat and convince Sai to withdraw complaint. BK had zero concern about Sai's feelings when the reveal happened also. She'll probably blame Sai abd be angry at her for not discussing it in ZA but going to the police straightaway. Thats how shameless they are.

This show is pathetic.

Originally posted by: Sherry24

I agree with your take on the wrap up episode.

Despite the content, Ghum has one thing as constant. They go for things that are not not the usual occurrence in ITV. Even if they do their treatment is different. Good or bad is debatable.

Hence accident looks so cliché. Therefore none of us were thinking on those lines We were still playing around the case and court and its outcome.

Another thing, we can complain and file cases on people, we cant do that to unfortunate incidents. So whatever happens by virtue of these incidents have none but destiny to blame. How convenient!!!

Coming to predictions, not sure if you had a chance to read mine. But my primary thought was around the Sai and baby missing to be misleading that Sai left with the baby. The obvious with the threat promo.

I agree memory loss seems too far fetched. This also means she cannot pursue her profession. Which is such a waste. Nope.

Yes, P might have quite possibly ran off with the baby in Sai disguise.

But with that I have a contradiction, which also gives me a lead for another theory :-)

Even if she did, she would do so to mislead them into believing that Sai took the child. Which would anyways be proven wrong once Sai returns. Misleading for buying time. This would only hold good for stealing the baby but not for escaping. Why would she then take GC bus?

So trying to place my logic to answer these questions. P hatched this plan. She runs away with the baby and gets into the GC bus. All this in disguise as Sai. Everyone believes Sai ran away with the baby to GC. The bus meets with an accident and Sai and baby are announced dead.

P returns or is found on the spot unconscious with the baby.

She says she saw Sai and went after her and stole the baby from her. (No one would beat her up for it this time considering her move saved the baby). Or she followed Sai in that bus, but survived the accident and saved the baby.

Second part of the her plan. Sai has been kidnapped by P. She is kept in captivity and gives birth to the child there. And she lives in hope that V will rescue them one day. Tying it up with the promo, P is in CN and Sai in P's confinement. Hence the child has not seen her father but Sai has told her everything about him. They both are waiting for V. With P saving the baby CN and V are thankful and restore the baby into her care.

Accident could either be planned by P or a coincidence. She would have planned something else but this accident just happened to fall in place for her plans to be executed perfectly.

I doubt itna dimaag lagayenge... Cus post leap it looks like Pakhi changed for good.

How many people believe V actually loves Sai?! Not just because its the right thing to do because she's his legal wife but because he trusts her, enjoys her company, feels happy with her, Wants to build a future only with her. Loves her enough that he will ignore her flaws and defend her because he knows why she does what she does. What shes capable of and not capable of.

Because i used to think V loved Sai. But that belief itself is mow gone based on how they are showing the plot.

He looks inconvenienced by the fact that Sai is always right and he does everything only for his image.

It looks good on him to be pampering his wife in public eye on godh bharaii whereas for the rest of the time he keeps snubbing her saying she should stay away from pp and her own fetus. What a loving husband 🙄

It looks good on him to "selflessly" snatch the baby and give it to bechaari depressed pp. What a nice guy 🙄

It looks good on him to be angry at pp and say- yes, she should get arrested. What a righteous officer 🙄

It looks good on him to ask Sai to "forgive and forget" . What a great soch. 🙄

But NONE of these decisions affect him personally.

He got to spend time and be involved with every aspect of pregnancy that a father can be involved in . Sai missed out. And even delivery ended up being V-pp not Sai-pp.

He snatched Sai's right, but didn't give up his own he didn't say ok- pp can raise Vinu but then if thats the case then I will also be kaka to my own son.

Pp going to prison wont affect him. He got the baby.

Pp coming back to Cn also doesn't affect him. He still has his baby.

If she comes back she will feel revengeful towards Sai not him.. but it doesn't affect him so it does not matter.

He gets attention from pp because she still "loves" him but he will deny that and just enjoy the fact that pp trusts him and listens to him.

He has not cared about what pp implied. She confessed she did everything for HIM. So Sai was right all along. Does he want a woman interested in him in a mon platonic way to be in his life, home, around their child, constantly interfering in their marriage.

But he will never answer this honestly.

He will go back to some BS about - shes interested, I'm not. I know my limits.

But even if thats true, isnt the fact that his wife is not comfortable enough reason to just stay away permanently?

Hypothetically, forgetting the criminal aspect of it, Will he offer Sai the option saying- ok back off from complaint and I will guarantee that PP will never be in our life. She will go to her house and we will never meet her in life?

Or will he say- ok back off but you, me and Vinu will move out of CN permanently and only come to visit or invite the rest of the family for special occasions like festivals, functions etc which is how MANY nuclear families operate.

Will he be ok if his wife's ex who attempted to harm their relationship time and time agsin lived in the same roof , claiming he is depressed and therefore wants to spend time with Sai and treat Sai's kid as her own. Sai tells him- yes , its no big deal because I dont have any feelings for him, I love Virat. Will Virat allow it?!

None of these important questions, conversations, truth bombs ever get discussed on the actual show!

Hum discuss karenge but makers just brush all this off.

In itv one of two things happen - Sai mahaan and forgives and then pays because she was stupid enough to trust a known enemy or Sai is not mahaan and is deemed stubborn and they make her pay anyway because how dare she not be mahaan !

Pakhi sudar gayi toh kya dekhayenge leap ke baad . Agar Pakhi sudar gayi toh Yeh log Pakhi koh Bache ka custody de denge yeh keh kar ki usne 5 saal Vinayak ko pala hain iss liye uska haq hain . Acha hoga agar Pakhi vamp rahe toh aur Sai akar bache ko lejaye …

Virat ko Kamina banaya hain iss liye TRP Badi aur leap ke baad bhi Sabse bada Kamina rahega . Virat Sai Chavan ke waje se TRP increase nahiin huva par Kamina Virat aur abla nari sabko pasand hain . Leap ke bad Virat Sai ko miss nahiin karega …umeed mat rakho .

Originally posted by: JinglesRead

Pakhi sudar gayi toh kya dekhayenge leap ke baad . Agar Pakhi sudar gayi toh Yeh log Pakhi koh Bache ka custody de denge yeh keh kar ki usne 5 saal Vinayak ko pala hain iss liye uska haq hain . Acha hoga agar Pakhi vamp rahe toh aur Sai akar bache ko lejaye …

Virat ko Kamina banaya hain iss liye TRP Badi aur leap ke baad bhi Sabse bada Kamina rahega . Virat Sai Chavan ke waje se TRP increase nahiin huva par Kamina Virat aur abla nari sabko pasand hain . Leap ke bad Virat Sai ko miss nahiin karega …umeed mat rakho .

No. Virat was sensitive that week.

here is my outlandish plot which i think is the best plot to salvage this show while still staying true to ITVness- illogical, eventually reunite starcrossed lovers and OTT drama. So it would start with showing V alone without both Sai and Vinu. He should think they both died or went missing. PP should go missing after coming out of jail, find Vinu alive but sai unconscious after accident and take Vinu and leave.V will shut the PP case out of grief because both Sai and Vinu are presumed dead or because he is on a personal mission to locate both and has no time for PP ka BS.Then during the search he should Vinu first and by the time he does, PP has already become "Maa" to the kid so its too late to fix it.he hates PP but because Vinu is attached to her, he has no option but to tolerate her.He brings her back to CN so that Vinu gets family. Then V finds Sai. That part I cant figure out best way- maybe its just chance or maybe its when Vinu becomes sick and needs a matching bone marrow and thats how both Sai/Savi enter the picture. In my version, Sai is pregnant when she goes missing, but because is either too hurt by V and realizing Vinu is maybe dead in the bus accident- she doesnt bother to go back and tell him anything. She just decides to be with her only child. Or she has lost memory only of CN and V and eventually realizes everything when V locates her and Savi.She can MU that he moved on with PP but only wants her in life now to save Vinu but the kids will reunite the parents even as PP continues to keep trying to do her usual BS and everyone is forced to tolerate until Vinu accepts Sai as mom.I still want Sai to be doctor. So in this version the cliche ITV tropes are in play but it makes V look less like a douchebag and in this Sai will have elephant pregnancy and produce a child somehow 2-3 years younger than Vinu even though she leaves when he is a neonate and she is already pregnant. that also fits with ITV attribute of illogicality.