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Posted: 3 years ago

virat is more than just Sai's husband or Son of chavan house. He is also a police officer- an IPS. His jeeva's shiva. His Kamal Sir's student. His aai's godu. And that is exactly why the audience is SO pissed with how V is shown.

1. No introspection- many episodes ago prior to devi elopement with pullu, he once told Sai he likes to sit on the "moon" to get a birds eye view- but NOT once has he actually done that on the show himself.

2. No care for Sai's pov- the woman he says he "LOVES". Never considers why Sai says what she does about PP,

3. Too much leeway to an obsessive ex- despite EVERYTHING she has pulled. He knows it all and dismisses it

4. No righteousness or high standards of code of conduct, morals when it comes to himself or his own family EXCEPT Sai. "forgives" everyone or rather gives everyone benefit of doubt EXCEPT Sai.

And the problem is NOT him making mistakes, him getting angry, him getting emotional, carried away, not agreeing with sai. NO. the problem is HOW that is shown and WHAT he does afterwards.

He has done way worse in the past if you look at it on paper- he has held Sai's hand in a tight manner- unintentionally injuring her, he has thrown her out of the house at midnight- BUT we could try to see his POV because those acts were shown in a lens where V was NOT made mahaan or excused. His pov was shown but not in a way to whitewash him but just to show things as they happened. And audience could still root for him and Sai despite never forgetting those actions because he had an arc, He showed progression. He showed repentance, You could see his motivations. He had the courage to admit his errors and seek forgiveness. But now its ALL gone. his apologies are non existent or fake, he has made no progression. He makes new mistakes, worse mistakes despite supposedly having growth in his relationship with Sai. And worse it is shown in a lens where makers instead of just showing things, are putting it in a lens where he is being justified and called "mahaan". that started since Sam return/ pre-mimo. During Mimo things were lighter so it was good for like a couple of episodes but even then he was actually insensitive to Sai's feelings. Sai warned himt then, she tried to discuss her feelings, insecurities then, he dissed her. but then Shruti happened and there has no looking back- steep irreversible decline in V.

Save a few moments where he let his "feelings" show- drunk holi episode, those cracks in his facade when he smiles at Sais antics as he acted all tough/uncaring, humoring her tantrums before her exam and the name change during the shaadi, some of the things he said in the bahu/beta debate in ZA after Sai doing naukri happened- those were the bright spots. Those were the only times he seemed genuine. Rest everything has been fake. Unfortunately these few moments cannot salvage the irreversible damage that has been done by all the other stuff he has done.

He has come across as incompetent as an IPS on the show too- during the whole Sai medical negligence case, V looked like a fish out of water. He acted all macho but actually could not save Sai. Sai had to rather step up and save herself and him even though it was his territory. He was in the position to fix things.

And now he has crossed all limits with this surrogacy and child saga. the fact that he has placed the need to have child above Sai, her feelings, her rights, her consent and their marriage and not even realized how much he screwed up and the makers showing that in a way as if V had his hands tied and was "bechaara" - there in lies the problem.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Nja91

virat is more than just Sai's husband or Son of chavan house. He is also a police officer- an IPS. His jeeva's shiva. His Kamal Sir's student. His aai's godu. And that is exactly why the audience is SO pissed with how V is shown.

1. No introspection- many episodes ago prior to devi elopement with pullu, he once told Sai he likes to sit on the "moon" to get a birds eye view- but NOT once has he actually done that on the show himself.

2. No care for Sai's pov- the woman he says he "LOVES". Never considers why Sai says what she does about PP,

3. Too much leeway to an obsessive ex- despite EVERYTHING she has pulled. He knows it all and dismisses it

4. No righteousness or high standards of code of conduct, morals when it comes to himself or his own family EXCEPT Sai. "forgives" everyone or rather gives everyone benefit of doubt EXCEPT Sai.

And the problem is NOT him making mistakes, him getting angry, him getting emotional, carried away, not agreeing with sai. NO. the problem is HOW that is shown and WHAT he does afterwards.

He has done way worse in the past if you look at it on paper- he has held Sai's hand in a tight manner- unintentionally injuring her, he has thrown her out of the house at midnight- BUT we could try to see his POV because those acts were shown in a lens where V was NOT made mahaan or excused. His pov was shown but not in a way to whitewash him but just to show things as they happened. And audience could still root for him and Sai despite never forgetting those actions because he had an arc, He showed progression. He showed repentance, You could see his motivations. He had the courage to admit his errors and seek forgiveness. But now its ALL gone. his apologies are non existent or fake, he has made no progression. He makes new mistakes, worse mistakes despite supposedly having growth in his relationship with Sai. And worse it is shown in a lens where makers instead of just showing things, are putting it in a lens where he is being justified and called "mahaan". that started since Sam return/ pre-mimo. During Mimo things were lighter so it was good for like a couple of episodes but even then he was actually insensitive to Sai's feelings. Sai warned himt then, she tried to discuss her feelings, insecurities then, he dissed her. but then Shruti happened and there has no looking back- steep irreversible decline in V.

Save a few moments where he let his "feelings" show- drunk holi episode, those cracks in his facade when he smiles at Sais antics as he acted all tough/uncaring, humoring her tantrums before her exam and the name change during the shaadi, some of the things he said in the bahu/beta debate in ZA after Sai doing naukri happened- those were the bright spots. Those were the only times he seemed genuine. Rest everything has been fake. Unfortunately these few moments cannot salvage the irreversible damage that has been done by all the other stuff he has done.

He has come across as incompetent as an IPS on the show too- during the whole Sai medical negligence case, V looked like a fish out of water. He acted all macho but actually could not save Sai. Sai had to rather step up and save herself and him even though it was his territory. He was in the position to fix things.

And now he has crossed all limits with this surrogacy and child saga. the fact that he has placed the need to have child above Sai, her feelings, her rights, her consent and their marriage and not even realized how much he screwed up and the makers showing that in a way as if V had his hands tied and was "bechaara" - there in lies the problem.

Couldn't agree more even if we see virat as a human beyond sai's husband, he was failured in that way also, when his family members were suggested to burn out sai alive during holika dahan but he stood like a statue leave IPS but he didn't said anything against his family as human in support of another women , I pointed out that in tt y he can't say anything against his family in supportive offer sai as IPS or human when Virat Stans said that y v should defend sai when they were divorced n not on good terms. Him going out of his ways to help another person in humanity is also selective in a selfish way. Let's see him beyond as sai's husband n keep one point in mind that he was grown in orthodox n joint family so he inherited his family genes. But he even failed as a brother to his sister n brother. He was worried for Devi that she married to a bad man who already married to Sangeeta Deshpande but he was chilled in his room after ousting sai didn't bothered to provide safety for his sister, didn't tried to investigate the matter but he waited for next day to sun rise in morning. He didn't understand his brother"s pain as a husband n brother how he would have felt when he came to knew about the past of him n pakhi but he tried to defend him. Didn't bothered to maintain distance with pakhi when his past came out open instead he joined with her to taunt n tortue sai even hurted Devi by siding pakhi. Even during ramnavami omi arsoned n created fire by pelting Stone that would have been taken many people lives but as a IPS he didn't even warned omi so there r many things that proves that he is beyond redemption can't even see him as a flawed human or normal a human being
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Posted: 3 years ago

https://twitter.com/shyamasrinivas/status/1546028997120692224?t=_NS00SxAsViDhh7bMyNsaA&s=19

Each and every quality here describes virat character. Guilt tripping, gaslighting, playing victim card, agressivness, victim blaming, acting like dumb to avoid blame, he did everything that mentioned here.

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Posted: 3 years ago
Ayesha is slaying. Getting new magazine cover pics of her everyday is a bliss🙈💗
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Posted: 3 years ago
Sadiltl, you described everything so beautifully here❤️ I'm so glad to finally see someone who's analysing the story this way. Yes makers have failed to do justice with rono's character and especially failed the physical intimacy and virat's vulnerability and desperation after shruti's track. And, about the surrogacy track, idk who this virat is... There were so many things to explore in their relationship, the insecurities, reassure, freaking out, angst. Angst was served🔥until they following Leena's writing but can't see that anymore. They became weirdly sweet with talks to each other post confession. Those insecurities etc are gone. And, MOST IMPORTANT THING WAS how rono cared less for Emon after confession until he lost her. That's what happens in real life as well, we don't realise the value until we lose something and the value becomes less when we get something, so with rono itbwas presented beautifully. Virat should see a mirror, those insecurities need to come back, he doesn't have any fear of losing sai anymore, which is required. But, the writers are failing here.
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Posted: 3 years ago
'Roopkotha was just a source of conflict which shaped their relationship'. I so agree, pakhi did too multiple times, but didn't alot of times. They failed in showing her as someone who made them grow closer, i mean they did but months back, not anymore.
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Posted: 3 years ago

Not exposing Pakhi is getting irritating. Who gets so many chances just because of personal issues.

Every other show s villans get exposed. Esp this time when she has committed major crimes.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Rosyme

Not exposing Pakhi is getting irritating. Who gets so many chances just because of personal issues.

Every other show s villans get exposed. Esp this time when she has committed major crimes.

Even Arab audience also got irritated that still pakhi isn't exposed. They r demanding to throw pakhi out of the show
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Posted: 3 years ago

Arab?! Woh kya hai.

Edited by Nja91 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Nja91

Arab?! Woh kya hai.

Ghum is dubbed in arabic and is aired in uae and other countries....they too now demand to air off ghum or put an end to tantrums by couple and throw out pakhi

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