Sidhu Moosewala shot dead - Page 3

All the culprits should be severely punished including mastermind otherwise more such murders can easily happen in future.

https://twitter.com/thetribunechd/status/1531124009143660544?t=txlHQ-ycOU6LO5074-sPpQ&s=19

This scares me 😐 his songs predicted his death.

This is tragic and just plain disturbing, it always is when things like this happen, now the relatives are left to mourn and grieve...BUT there are some things the press is not reporting, so being the Mr. Satan's advocate... that I am I will ask the following so all you who know better can set me to right...

He had security because he was a politician not because of his music career.

Security was recently cut by 2 (two) armed guards, so he still had 2 (two).

He was involved in some questionable issues, including but not limited to two murders, no that does not warrant being killed, because the law should have been investigating the issues not the gangs conected to the issues.

Maybe he was not involved in a gang or any of the things he was accused of, but he does throw out gang signs in some of his photos (could be for PR and bravado) and his music did glorify the life style. Live by the sword die by it sort of outcome..no?

Being the afore mentioned true; WHY? did he not have a private security detail? He had the funds.

Why was he traveling with two close associates only and NOT the two armed guards he did get to keep?

Why was he in an unprotected vehicle 2 days after the fact, when it is fact that he owned another vehicle a bullet proof vehicle. Anyone else who feels in danger and gets his security detail reduced would take all kinds of precautionary meassures to ensure his or her own safety?

Why are members of certain political parties who are questioning the leak of the security reduction, POSTING the very list all over social media...thereby placing in jeopardy everyone else on that list? Just because someone leaked it, it does not mean is a free for all now. It is still a breech to post it, and everyone that does before or after needs to be prosecuted.

Things like this need to be investigated, fully and the guilty held accountable without political manipulation nor using this to glorify one group or another nor allowing oportunistic blabber users, to gain a speaking point in a issue they had nothing to with. This should now be an opportunity to investigate and fix what is corrupt NOT a fingerpointing game or a free publicity platform.

I wish his family strength to deal with their pain, may the other two recover. May the law act properly and without bias so they can come to a quick resolution and I wish PEACE to all those who are innocent.

Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

Which person told you it was "Gangwar"?

Do you remember the official source or link or any indication where I can see such verified information?

Because as far as I am aware 99.99% of whatever has been written about his death is speculation at best, and propaganda at worst.

I have seen the types of "groups" of people who have been pushing and pushing the "omg punjab gang wars" "gun culture epidemic" false narrative - who do you think it serves? Is it credible? What were other factors?

The fact that he was a very VOCAL and INFLUENTIAL musical star was without a shadow of a doubt a VERY BIG THREAT to certain other powerful influential "people" in the country. Thinking of the top most ranks. The types that set you up with reduced security just weeks after your political career hits an unprecedented and sudden new height. And hire a drive by 24 hours after they removed your bulletproof car and security regime. Any type of RISK ASSESSMENT would have indicated that this man's life was under threat and they just brutally murdered him.

AND THIS IS THE SCARIEST PART:

The videos circulating online of him just after he was shot, show a bunch of suspicious looking men, poking and prodding him, they drag his lifeless body out of the car and drop him in the floor and then drag his body across the ground without any care or caution, all the while PRETENDING to be concerned about him, it was obviously guys that were there to check that he was dead for sure and then they wanted to HUMILIATE him even after he was dead by doing all this. There's another video of Sidhu lying on a hospital bed, and there's again dodgy looking guys, not wearing any medical attire or gloves or anything surgical, they have pulled Sidhu's trousers exposing his underpants, just completely dehumanising a man that was just violently murdered. It's all just so sick. I can't believe it. I personally just discovered him as an artist in April!!! And I instantly was in awe at the brilliance of his craft and diverse set of songs he amassed in such a short span of time. 💔

Everyone knows in Punjab, there is prominent Gangwar going on in Punjab.

Few months back International Kabbadi Player Sandeep Nangal Ambain was shot dead same way around 20 bullets fired at him , so Tragic.

There are two prominent group Bambihan gang n Lawrence Bishnoi gang created n supported by Political parties for their own politicial gains n illegal businesses. One of their prime business is Extortion and Singers are their main target.

Ever heard of Gippy Grewal singer who also got threat calls , Parmesh verma shot at for extortion money n two gangs compete at that. Corrupt Police system do nothing to protect Singers n Players hence they have to bow down n associate/give money for their n their families protection. And Worse is revenge game b/w these gangs n killing those who are even remotely associated with them to hit business of each other.

Another political worker Vicky middukhera was killed brutely last year n Gurlal brar as well and how sick are these people opposite lawrance (Goldie brar)gang has claimed to take revenge by killing Sidhu Moosewala as his manager Shaganpreet has fled who was allegedy involved in masterminding killing of Vicky n Gurlal brar. Whatever this baseless revenge gangwar is leading to killing young people n only their families are at biggest loss, totally fault of Corrupt system.

Indeed very very Sad n Inhuman !!

Here is source n even DGP said same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ9gNfBLdlk

Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

Really?? I mean, let's ignore the ignorance for a second. And focus on the fact that you seem to have some issue of contention with a so-called "private citizen" being afforded security which would have saved his god damn life?? but at the expense of taxpayer's money??

So hmm, if you have a moment, I'd love to hear those things you think money should be spent on if not protecting life itself.

And by the way, he is not a private citizen.

He is an official politician.

As well as a culturally significant and globally influential musician.

And by law politicians are bestowed with certain security privileges, it's part of the job anyway, and it's supposed to be risk-assessed so obviously if there's some issue or controversy, the person at risk's security is usually bumped up.

So it's baffling that at this moment in time when he is at his peak and climbing the government instead of increasing they REMOVED most of his security allocation AND ADVERTISED IT ONLINE (the list of people affected was LEAKED) which further put him at increased danger. The whole thing is just so so nasty and grim. I am typing this and my arms feel so weighty. I feel abhorred by the human race right now.

And there's more.

He is someone who was on the cusp of possibly being a major major player in numerous positive changes for millions of citizens because of his new role as well as the already MASSIVE following he has gained in less than 5 years since he put out his first track.

The position he was in was actually more significant than I think many people even realise. But we will definitely see the consequences now. People are going to be very enraged about how this whole thing played out. It's a huge injustice. The man was the VOICE of the PEOPLE. He had the kind of adulation and reach that very few famous people attain.

To put it briefly, his murder signifies the triumph of evil over goodness. There is a much wider impact upon society because of what he represented and attained. There could very well be riots and protests. Because I am pretty sure the police are going to continue to F up their already shoddy investigation - watching the press briefing was triggering.

Globally: Who was the last person to put an Indian music genre on the world map? Maybe AR Rahman 2 decades ago, but Sidhu was only just beginning, plus Rahman didn't have the cultural significance nor the political voice.

Then there's the momentum he was on, it's wild, right on the verge of really becoming an enormous force globally. And his LYRICS are what makes him so iconic and idolised. There is a reason why 'Voice of a Generation' is used so rarely, it takes a whole lot of talent, personality and inner strength to even attempt it, not many do, he took the risk, voiced his opinions on CORRUPTION, unfair treatment, and although we don't know yet who was behind this exactly, it's obvious that he had to be taken out, so it may well have been a collaborative effort.

Anyway, here's a song about his mama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wub_PF4Oaw

Totally wrong to publicize his security detail, very bad move by PR of current Govt , his security was reduced from 4 to 2 police personal along with over 400+ other VIPs. But this was not political but revenge game of Gundas. It is almost clear now Goldie Brar n gang was behind this. But it was so unfair, he wasn't Gangster.They claimed Sidhu moosewala helped fled his manager to Australia who helped killers of vicky n gurlal brar BUT I don't get it it was alleged he helped his manager but Sidhu wasn't involved as such, so why kill him so brutally , this is so senseless , so if u cannot nab person who actually killed person, u will kill people associated with him ?? What kind of F ed up logic is this?? And that too one who has such contribution for Punjabi music industry , what message are they trying to send, when 10 people kill one person , it is cowardness n shameful act!

And Indeed very true Sidhu mossewala highlighted Punjabi Music in World , great contribution at such young age, he left big Void for Music industry n Punjab. :(

Originally posted by: Saralicious7

Everyone knows in Punjab, there is prominent Gangwar going on in Punjab.

There are gangs in Punjab, it is well known and not a secret. So I didn't need educating about that...

The REASON why I was asking how you KNOW is was "gangwar" is because Sidhu Moose Wala had many other haters. It could've been a political murder, or another personal matter.

When something like this happens, and we don't know the facts, we should WAIT for the truth to come out.

I know about the Facebook posts claiming they orchestrated the murder, but that could be false too. That's my point.

Originally posted by: CriticusExpert

(1) BUT there are some things the press is not reporting...

(2) Security was recently cut by 2 (two) armed guards, so he still had 2 (two). Why was he traveling with two close associates only and NOT the two armed guards he did get to keep?

(3) He was involved in some questionable issues, including but not limited to two murders

(4) Maybe he was not involved in a gang or any of the things he was accused of, but he does throw out gang signs in some of his photos (could be for PR and bravado) and his music did glorify the life style. Live by the sword die by it sort of outcome..no?

(5) Being the afore mentioned true; WHY? did he not have a private security detail? He had the funds.

(6) Why was he in an unprotected vehicle 2 days after the fact, when it is fact that he owned another vehicle a bullet proof vehicle. Anyone else who feels in danger and gets his security detail reduced would take all kinds of precautionary meassures to ensure his or her own safety?

(7) Why are members of certain political parties who are questioning the leak of the security reduction, POSTING the very list all over social media...thereby placing in jeopardy everyone else on that list? Just because someone leaked it, it does not mean is a free for all now. It is still a breech to post it, and everyone that does before or after needs to be prosecuted.

(1) Press is not reporting what?? Everything you wrote about has been discussed by the press, news channels, all over social media ever since the news of his death was broken.. 😕

(2) Did you know that previously he had 10 members of security? That was then reduced to 7. Then 4. Then it was reduced to just 2 less than 24 hours later, he was dead. It was very very possible that he was told that very soon, the 2 security guards will be gone too. So he could have thought "well, let me start getting used to it, let me make some local small trips in my own car"... could be other reasons too, how do we know what happened exactly before he made his last journey, and WHY did the security guards ALLOW him to go on his own? When it was their DUTY to protect and accompany him at ALL times? We need answers to this too.

(3) Disgusting. He was NOT involved in anybody's murder. Makes me sick when people choose to talk rubbish online because they can remain anonymous and unaccountable, nasty. Sidhu's former colleague was alleged to have been involved in the case of someone's death. That makes Sidhu guilty by association???? So if tomorrow my colleague murders someone, then I am guilty?? Please use your brain properly.

(4) Seriously?? The biggest films in cinema use violence, fighting, gangs, guns, bombs etc Does it mean they are promoting these things? But do the actors get the same treatment as Punjabi singers who use the same imagery in their music? I don't think so. AND it is legal to carry a gun in Punjab.

(5) There is a HUGE difference between hiring private security versus having the GOVERNMENT provide you with security. A private firm would be so so hard to trust, they could be bought by a rival to harm him, easily. The official security he had provided him with an extra layer of protection. Because if anyone tried to mess with him, the State is right there to deal with EVERYTHING. Plus they have more access to latest and best technology and surveillance equipment and techniques.

(6) Apparently, when Sidhu made his final journey, he left his house IN THE BULLETPROOF CAR but short while later he returned and swapped the cars then left again, soon after he was ambushed. This is what I want to know, what happened, why did he swap cars???

(7) The entire list was leaked all at once. It took a short time to spread all over the internet. We need to investigate how the leak happened rather than focusing on people who happened to Retweet.

If Moosewala was promoting Gun culture then what KFG , Mirzapur types of shows and movies do ? Question these also

Also I heard Lawrence Bishnoi is a RSS supporter but not a single Godi media dared to mention RSS .

Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

Everything you wrote, I am aware of already.

There are gangs in Punjab, it is well known and not a secret. So I didn't need educating about that...

The REASON why I was asking how you KNOW is was "gangwar" is because Sidhu Moose Wala had many other haters. It could've been a political murder, or another personal matter.

When something like this happens, and we don't know the facts, we should WAIT for the truth to come out.

I know about the Facebook posts claiming they orchestrated the murder, but that could be false too. That's my point.

I don't get why r u getting mad at me, I just stated facts. When I m not trying to teach u but u stated that u don't know exactly who did this n was more inclined abt politician rivalries n questioned "Gangwar" narrative , so i was just stating what has come out. And There is least possiblity of someone killing him bz he wasn't big politically as of now, though there is one possiblity that gangs are associated with previous parties n they despite knowing let it happen since it is new Govt n they want to show them in bad light as well.

It is almost clear n gangsters has claimed responsibility and statements from Punjab Police DGP as well. I m equally saddened abt this shi* going on in Punjab and this needs to be stopped.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Security removal list was publicized on SM. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Om Shanti!

Whole list? I think just his name was specifically mentioned