romance meter malfunction -- bring on the angst!

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Posted: 3 years ago
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maybe I should start with a disclaimer? kekekek... okay, I have been putting off watching the episodes and just reading the updates. unlike most of the fandom, I was not excited about "I bloody love you". 🤷 before you say "mango, why so negative?" -- let me say that I had more feels to surpita scene than to arylie. 😂 sundar cooking for arpita and telling her to put aside her diet -- "aww that is so cute!" 🥰 but then again, my feelings may be because I need to go on a diet myself 🤣🤣🤣🤣


romance meter malfunction for the confession: 90%!!!!

okay, I have consumed hundreds of romance novels and dramas. when I say hundreds, I really do mean tons. so the confession fails because it has many of the common mistakes that romance novels/writers/drama CVs should be avoiding: (these are all tips from various writing blogs/sites)

mistake#1 - instant romance! -- I have been tagged on quite a few posts where the question was "when did aryan fall in love", "when did imlie fall in love" -- the answer to both of those questions for me is "I have no clue!".


one of the reasons we love aryan is because he was such a pillar of support but his support did not come attached with strings. he did not support imlie because he even liked her. instead, it was just his inate goodness and his sense of leadership as a boss. that is why his overtures towards imlie never felt sleazy. instead, he was the epitome of a pure gentleman. that is what I loved about him.

imlie on her part never showed signs of even seeing him as a man. she was going through a separation, then divorce, then a single woman and she leaned on him as a friend. despite people's suggestion that something may be cooking, there was never anything going on between the two. so in that sense, it felt pure, genuine and very special. the CVs were laying the steps to a beautiful friendship turning into romance.

then, we had the marriage track and during it, they both struggled. she was mad at him and we got this great holi scene.



did it sizzle? YES! it was subtle and amazing. we had him struggling with his own emotions and trying to tell her that he wasn't using her.

that was conflict. it was rich and full of angst and feeling.....

and after that....we had nothing. a whole bunch of nothing. I have no idea what happened. where did aryan turn on the love tap? at least he was more expressive in some ways but still not enough. I don't even know why they are still married and living together since the reason for them being together no longer existed....


mistake #2. making single person passive in a relationship - and that would be imlie! I have no idea how she feels about him. does she like him because he is now her husband? (some type of "I am stuck with you and so I am attached to you") . I really don't know and that is a problem if a fan has no idea when they these characters fell in love and why. instead, it feels half-baked even more than surpita!!!! much as fans might hate narmada, I have to agree with her question -- "what has imlie done for aryan????"

in more ways than one, it has been aryan continously running behind her and offering her support. instead of solving anything, she gets herself in trouble where he has to physically rescue her and he ends up in hospital with a bandage for a few days. 😂 that has been their dynamic. she was super involved with the tripathy family and obsessed with "apne" -- she does not show that kind of passion or dedication to aryan and his kin. she does feel rather passive in many ways.


mistake#3 -- not showing backstories and how their personalities affect their relationship -- "one reason why instant romance feels cliched because it is not earned" -- that is my problem. aryan and imlie's love story does not feel earned. did we see character development? did we see how their past has affected their relationship? did they work through issues? nada.


mistake#4 -- obstacles to romance that are not believable and interesting -- do we have believable obstacles that create angst? our villain trio are nothing but comic relief. right now, we have some saas trouble. and what is the solution? arpita suggests that aryan confess his feelings just so that imlie feels more secure in the relationship and is able to handle the trouble at home. that is the least romantic reason to confess in my book. 😂 and when aunty blue asks why he needs to confess as their husbands never did -- makes you think as well no? it seems that marriage for many women is devoid of romance and therefore, such large gestures are weird.


but seriously, why was he confessing in the first place? did he really need to take her to the jungle to confess? why couldn't he have done it after the cute hair swat scene? 😂

why not a simple gesture in a simple manner?? the treehouse date felt kind of cheesy.


mistake#5 - forgetting about tension and conflicts -- that is the hook that keeps us watching dramas or reading a novel. when there is none, it is easy to tune out and just skip episodes. so for that reason, am for all them breaking up. let their heart break into a million pieces and have them rage and hurt each other. let them make us feel the pain of being apart. then when they get back together, maybe I will swoon instead of giggle.


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Posted: 3 years ago
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tagging friends who tagged me on various posts -- glad you are enjoying but I am going to be the outlier. 😁

I need the feels of this song --

https://youtu.be/8JSdy3nLLYA

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Res and

except the thankyou scene of Imlie and Aryan's my pleasure I didn't enjoy other things too in show... Coming with comment again after reading the whole post Also DYNASTY is my one of all time fav song...


LET ME UNRES WITH SOME DRUMS🤣

Okay I am actually in and out of the show for long now and unfortunately I had actually bought hotstar pack for this show in the past. So yeah for my money as I don't see much movies I watch the show by skipping 1 2 and 3. Doing it for now ages as I get bored easily. With Kdrama it gets boring when it's predictable and for Indian when you can't relate that's a simple ground deal for me.

So if I ask myself till when Arylie Romance was sold for a person like me?

It was till the time Aryan said I Trust My Wife and Imlie ran behind him(yeah that half cut scene) even the hug for bomb they did, didn't charm me out.

The peak moment for me?

PD trip, Holi and even their marriage.

Why no more?

1. I can't connect. I might be a Jane Austen fan and Aryan gave me Darcy vibes hence I am here, yet I am also the type which bashed the 50 shades of grey movie coz it just ruined the books experience (lol I did coz when the first part came out I was in highschool IMMATURE) So I have observed that here things were jumping, the smooth flow when Aryan entered or said no one will pick you up the smoothness is not visible. Everything is happening but why I can't ring my head it's fast as Narmada's change overnight.

2. I have only one explanation for Imlie's love he is her husband... Lol don't punch me for it. But the range of emotions she showed during Mirchi Bazaar hug and today's, I will top that one above. There was no binding of a relationship tag hence made the support more real and believable. She believed him and she was sure he would come for her but without questioning why. She would slowly grasp and understand but here now I am more of convinced that she is a good person who abides by destiny hence being that way.

3. Aryan I bloody love you didn't touch a bit to me but my pleasure did. Why? Because that was relevant. Also what's that dialogue of Imlie Amma se milaye? I was like sis you could do that too with some moral support as you were the one who ran to the car after marriage avoiding your Amma. It was your sole journey he only showed you the path of return. So the thank you she gave for other reason was absolutely valid. As at that Divorce time she was in the zenith point of insecurity and Aryan was the pillar for her with his advices. And that MY PLEASURE actually showed that he accepted her thankyou and is grateful to her for accepting him and his help without the need to returning more like she did with TS.

Yep she had a bad tendency of can't accepting help without feeling burdened hence used to return more than what she got.

4. The trio villains are useless,I repeat it useless. They ascended Bari Maa who was into food politics to the tactics of a murderer, Jyo is another namuna who cuts trees herself for being jealous...People like her are the reason for deforestation I guess😆 and Babydoll needs her own Arc where she understands that she is actually wasting her time by being used by BM. Her youth will be gone if she keeps on sitting, Rathore's are rich they can bring rich rishtas for her too

5. Narmada went from I trust my son to Imlie being panouti was also funny. Like that's why people needs their own hobbies else overthinking leads to such delusions.

6. At the end I didn't feel their romance much, I miss the old Aryan somehow I also miss the old Imlie dynamics with him too where she keeps on being free and crazy with him.

7. Free se yaad aaya that You are aazad dialogue was also something I didn't like. I am near 25 yet I don't feel Azad when I am very much capable to live a good life. Why? The answer Aryan gave turned me down, she is Azad coz she freed his sister and him, what is she doing a bit for her dreams?

Her college disappeared, I am sure she has been suspended for less attendance. There is something called office hours, she behaves like someone who has a big position (which she has for her husband) where she could instruct others, she behaving like my mom in kitchen nothing like a genz kid she is more of a boomer generation,and yes young adults have a lot of issues like depression, wishes for life and do much.

8. Let me summarise things not as an audience but someone living in IMLIELAND:

Oh Imlie had a divorce

She had internship

She is not going to college but the boss is supporting her. And says they are friends.

She got the job and that too feature writer with a single article.

Less than 6 months they are married and said it's love marriage.

The boss husband went to hospital Again?

Have you seen she uses her husband's car? Also she no more goes to college

She raided blood bank and didn't ruined the schedule for other people who were about to have blood

She destroyed cars on roads.

What's even happening?



Also the writers wanted Emotional Investments of women and men who have more EQ, but couldn't relate to Reality for people who lives for practical presentation. Now when I started watching this show it was near REALITY more than a fiction portraying human emotions with practical journey now it's only FICTION a fiction which I can't relate much like I can't relate with other ITV series.


Okie done with my ranting... Hope I made sense which I am not these days.

Also I was wondering too why am I not moved with Arylie anymore and got these points but your points were also some of the reason which I couldn't figure out.Thanks for making my list longer😆

Yours Mimi🤡

Edited by MiuniS - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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I'm feeling the same way. While I am still enjoying these scenes, I 100% agree it's too soon.


Could be an unpopular opinion but I really enjoyed the marriage track. Aryan forcing marriage with Imlie whether due to revenge or misplaced sense of protectiveness was just the kind of angst and push and pull I wanted to see. And after the marriage, I liked the revenge angle because of the depth it added to their storyline. I wanted Aryan to struggle a bit more with the inner conflict of exacting his revenge plans but not being able to enjoy the victory seeing Imlie hurt the more he hurt Aditya and co.


And if revenge track had to be wrapped up because of actors departing the show, then lets at least have a revenge aftermath. Aryan struggling with the guilt of hurting people due to his misplaced vengeance. Him reflecting on the man he became in past couple years and questioning if he's right for Imlie and if he can learn to love.


As you rightly said, we have next to no insight into Imlie's mind. The scene where she tells Aryan she hates him during marriage track was so impactful. Why she let go of that hatred and resentment so fast is beyond me. I wanted to see her give him a harder time before forgiving him for all the revenge drama. And after that I wanted her to be apprehensive of falling in love for the second time. I wanted her to be scared of it and try to hide behind the "friendship" tag a bit longer.


I don't feel confused about when these two fell in love. I feel the love has been blossoming between them from day 1. However I expected more inner turmoil and obstacles before they realized it. All that said, that ship has sailed. They have confessed so I am just going to enjoy what we have.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: stardust_0

I'm feeling the same way. While I am still enjoying these scenes, I 100% agree it's too soon.


Could be an unpopular opinion but I really enjoyed the marriage track. Aryan forcing marriage with Imlie whether due to revenge or misplaced sense of protectiveness was just the kind of angst and push and pull I wanted to see. And after the marriage, I liked the revenge angle because of the depth it added to their storyline. I wanted Aryan to struggle a bit more with the inner conflict of exacting his revenge plans but not being able to enjoy the victory seeing Imlie hurt the more he hurt Aditya and co.


And if revenge track had to be wrapped up because of actors departing the show, then lets at least have a revenge aftermath. Aryan struggling with the guilt of hurting people due to his misplaced vengeance. Him reflecting on the man he became in past couple years and questioning if he's right for Imlie and if he can learn to love.


As you rightly said, we have next to no insight into Imlie's mind. The scene where she tells Aryan she hates him during marriage track was so impactful. Why she let go of that hatred and resentment so fast is beyond me. I wanted to see her give him a harder time before forgiving him for all the revenge drama. And after that I wanted her to be apprehensive of falling in love for the second time. I wanted her to be scared of it and try to hide behind the "friendship" tag a bit longer.


I don't feel confused about when these two fell in love. I feel the love has been blossoming between them from day 1. However I expected more inner turmoil and obstacles before they realized it. All that said, that ship has sailed. They have confessed so I am just going to enjoy what we have.

let me give you a hug! 🤩👏

this, 100% -- I understand the actor leaving messed up everything but would have loved to see what you described. I also enjoyed the marriage track because of the intense push and pull. so it feels very anti-climatic since then. them randomly confessing for whatever joy? okay, I just want them to break up so we can feel that intensity again. 😁

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I kind of agree with you I also felt confession is soon. I honestly wanted to see more struggle from imlie's side as she had sworn of love. But on the other hand, with the fix writers were in this felt like right step narratively. With MV quitting there weren't many things they could do , they couldn't use flashbacks . But yes they could have shown things through dialogues. The story was kind of stuck at one point especially with them expressing love via actions but claiming it as boss employee relationship. It could have gotten repetitive . Their dynamics needed to be changed to proceed story. Now the confession has done that. With acceptance comes expectations. Now the way they deal with things has to change. Also now will be time the promises will be tested . Adi and imlie also made promises but when time came they failed . Now is the time of arylie to show that do they have it in them to fulfill that.


PS : I will forever be bitter with MV . It was highly unprofessional. He along with him took away show's major plotlines . All the angst all the conflict . Somewhen also said on twitter it is astonishing how PH let non-actor hold so much power that he took away show's progressive storyline. Also casting 3rd Akt this soon wouldn't have been possible.

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I updated my comment😵

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This is not an unpopular opinion. Most of us looking for a better narrative agree.

But having said that, it doesn't stop me to enjoy what we're being served because of all the limitations that i know the team is facing and still working day in and day out to serve us A class content.


I also agree that we could've had the aftermath of trauma for both of them. We got scraps though...

I was just thinking back to the bidai episode where imlie shades Aryan for the marriage, how he snatched her friend ka ghar and all (cue the torture she endured after the first marriage reveal from Tripathi's, before that they were so good with her too. Her fear about change of relationships)

Arya's trauma was totally brushed under the carpet after purandas.


Regarding confession, at no point it will not be unrealistic to me for these two. I've felt they've been in love forever.


Angst is coming though. I can smell it in the air 😂 I'm up for it. I know ITV experience makes us think it's game over after the consummation of the couple. So we already know the worst. But that doesn't stop me from hoping for something better. A good surprise 🤞

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Originally posted by: sheen97

I kind of agree with you I also felt confession is soon. I honestly wanted to see more struggle from imlie's side as she had sworn of love. But on the other hand, with the fix writers were in this felt like right step narratively. With MV quitting there weren't many things they could do , they couldn't use flashbacks . But yes they could have shown things through dialogues. The story was kind of stuck at one point especially with them expressing love via actions but claiming it as boss employee relationship. It could have gotten repetitive . Their dynamics needed to be changed to proceed story. Now the confession has done that. With acceptance comes expectations. Now the way they deal with things has to change. Also now will be time the promises will be tested . Adi and imlie also made promises but when time came they failed . Now is the time of arylie to show that do they have it in them to fulfill that.


PS : I will forever be bitter with MV . It was highly unprofessional. He along with him took away show's major plotlines . All the angst all the conflict . Somewhen also said on twitter it is astonishing how PH let non-actor hold so much power that he took away show's progressive storyline. Also casting 3rd Akt this soon wouldn't have been possible.

same! he ruined the show and its potential. I don't understand how you can come in there and not even be present for 50 episode and have an ego issue over being the lead. my guess is he was incredibly difficult that they couldn't hold him to the contract. not professional at all.

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Originally posted by: SundariP

This is not an unpopular opinion. Most of us looking for a better narrative agree.

But having said that, it doesn't stop me to enjoy what we're being served because of all the limitations that i know the team is facing and still working day in and day out to serve us A class content.


I also agree that we could've had the aftermath of trauma for both of them. We got scraps though...

I was just thinking back to the bidai episode where imlie shades Aryan for the marriage, how he snatched her friend ka ghar and all (cue the torture she endured after the first marriage reveal from Tripathi's, before that they were so good with her too. Her fear about change of relationships)

Arya's trauma was totally brushed under the carpet after purandas.


Regarding confession, at no point it will not be unrealistic to me for these two. I've felt they've been in love forever.


Angst is coming though. Incan smell it in the air 😂 I'm up for it. I know ITV experience makes us think it's game over after the consummation of the couple. So we already know the worst. But that doesn't stop me from hoping for something better. A good surprise 🤞

yea I am still hanging in here instead of dropping the drama because of the quality before... but the confession really got a meh from me. when it is hard earned in a drama, I am swooning. here, it was all just "meh". the confession feels like it is just coming a bit out of nowhere. when was the switch where they went from being friends to being more? where was the sizzle, the frizzle, the dhak the dhak, the confusion, the looks? 🤷

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