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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: guftagoo


There is usually an option na, to either choose between Hindi or Sanskrit in higher classes. A lot of people used to choose Sanskrit over Hindi because it was extremely easy to score more marks in it. I bet majority of them toppers in Sanskrit can't decipher a sentence now. 😆

IKR 😂

Zyadatar sab bolte the ki simply ratt lo sentences zyada dimag lagane ki zarurat nahi 😆

Anyways I'm from U.P. yaha to Hindi class 10 tak compulsory subject tha... Sanskrit was not even an option after class 6 or 7...

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Zeal17

@SmittenKitten The one in your DP also has issue with it being called Bollywood and not Hindi Movie Industry, just saying. smiley17


I guess not everyone can be like Johnyy Depp and see a hearsay objection from a mile away, huh?


Objection, hearsay! If there is no clip, it didn't happen. 😉

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: guftagoo

@Smitten: I have a genuine question? Why do you feel that regional film enthusiasts are the ones who want to call Bollywood as Hindi Cinema? smiley36 Amitabh Bacchhan has been the one who has been advocating against this term since time immemorial, I have been listening to this debate since a decade at least. Not just him, but I recall a lot of Hindi actors doing that since a long long time. There is nothing wrong with it.


Because I didn't think of it from another perspective, that the name sounds like a bad copy of Hollywood, and by extension it relegates the entire industry to a bad copy of Hollywood. Logically, it doesn't make sense but I can see how that can be a thorn in some people's sides -- people who take a lot of pride in their identity, etc.

I personally don't care cuz I think Bollywood is already a pretty well-known brand and a household name. People are gonna continue calling it Bollywood long after they switch to "Hindi cinema" even if they actually manage the name change. That's what usually happens when you suddenly overhaul a longstanding brand identity. Apart from that "pride" factor, which not everyone feels btw, I don't see any other logically sound reason to rebrand it and neither do I see how that would "benefit" the industry, commercially speaking.


Why do I think regional film enthusiasts bring their regional bias to these topics?

I've come across multiple posts from people I don't remember now, who prop up regional cinemas as being better and more deserving of recognition than Bollywood.

I also keep seeing threads taking unwitting turns to the age old Hindi vs Tamil vs Telugu debates ... which, again, extends to Hindi vs regional cinemas.

So I accounted for all of that and concluded that regional movie goers would rather have Bollywood limit its name to Hindi Movie Industry, so that people outside India finally stop confusing Bollywood for Indian Movie Industry, completely ignoring the existence of regional cinemas that are every bit as Indian as Bollywood.

My bad!

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Posted: 3 years ago

@SmittenKitten Aish said it on David Letterman show.. video available on youtube.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Zeal17

@SmittenKitten Aish said it on David Letterman show.. video available on YouTube.


I watched it. It comes up at around 1:15 but she is only explaining how the Hindi movie industry got identified as Bollywood. To set the record straight -- she doesn't say anything about being for or against the idea. That's my girl. 💃🏻


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEPjPhbGKKU

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Posted: 3 years ago

@SmittenKitten She could have simply gone with Bollywood like everyone else, perhaps she brought it up because she dislikes the term Bollywood and prefers to call it the Hindi movie industry. Not everything has to be said word by word. 😛

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Zeal17

@SmittenKitten She could have simply gone with Bollywood like everyone else, perhaps she brought it up because she dislikes the term Bollywood and prefers to call it the Hindi movie industry. Not everything has to be said word by word. 😛


First of all, *HE* brought up the Bollywood reference. He asks her if it's true that Hindi cinema refers to their industry as Bollywood and she says yes, and goes on to explain how/why. She doesn't just bring it up out of nowhere to complain about it. She says that her seniors take issue with the reference but nowhere in the clip does she express *her* dissatisfaction with it.


But if you wanna read between the lines, and add meanings and intentions to her statements that *you* wanna hear, I can't help you there!

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Posted: 3 years ago

@SmittenKitten Okay fine! In my defence I * vaguely remember* it being discussed on the show and not how it was discussed also didn't see the clip again.. so will go with what you mentioned.

Anyways, Aish mentioning seniors have issue also holds certain credence. Baki jiski jaisi soch 🙏

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Zeal17

@SmittenKitten Okay fine! In my defence I * vaguely remember* it being discussed on the show and not how it was discussed also didn't see the clip again. so will go with your what you mentioned.

Anyways, Aish mentioning seniors have issue also holds certain credence. Baki jiski jaisi soch 🙏


It looks like the name, Bombay, itself was a legacy of British colonialism, so Bollywood, a derivative of Bombay, does come with that baggage I suppose. It's not entirely unreasonable of people to dislike it and want to change it to something that isn't associated with the British regime that people loathe. But the driving factor behind it remains purely emotional. Anyways ... that's all I have to say on this topic.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: SmittenKitten


It looks like the name, Bombay, itself was a legacy of British colonialism, so Bollywood, a derivative of Bombay, does come with that baggage I suppose. It's not entirely unreasonable of people to dislike it and want to change it to something that isn't associated with the British regime that people loathe. But the driving factor behind it remains purely emotional. Anyways ... that's all I have to say on this topic.

U got the crux right! Also it's just copying west hollywood.. which although Bollywood does alot. We don't call Korean film industry as Kollywood or China film industry as Chollywood or Japanese film industry as Jollywood.. it would be better if we simply call it Hindi Cinema or Indian Cinema 🤔

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