Tough love, Fear or Dilemma? - Page 3

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Lovely to read different perspectives on this ..

However one thing which I wouldn’t agree with / have a diff opinion on - Aryan is afraid that Imlie will leave him if he is proven wrong .. Why would that be .. ?? As per Aryan he had freed her of his conditions for getting married .. she is now married to him of her own decision( or jer Amma’s ) .. I dont think that’s what he is afraid of .. if she wants to leave him , she can , irrespective of whether AKT is proven guilty or not.. he will never force her to stay anyways..

I thjnk what he is really afraid is the sense of loss of purpose , loss of identity that he has built for himself- the avenger for his family’s grief- his whole life has been revolving around this one thing - And if there is a chance that all this was pointless- he would be left with a profound sense of loss yet again.. how futile his existence of past 4 years would feel then ..that he has lived or rather “not lived” his life all these years , harnessing this misled hatred in his heart and mind ..thats what he is afraid of ..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Absolute pleasure reading you alls views. What a fabulous forum we have and deep insightful opinions and thoughts on dissecting the situation. Thoroughly amazed and impressed at some of you all sheet talent. Keep it going.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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@shabia1 - Finally got around to seeing the episode. So I had a slightly different reaction than others -- I was a bit affronted that Imlie started cleaning the room. I think unless you have faced grief and loss of family members in your own home, you will realize that the process for moving on (including cleaning up and sorting out stuff) happens in different ways for different people.

What struck me was this was a room where time stood still and the pillows are on the floor, sheets are as they are -- in my region, the first thing that happens after a funeral is the entire house is swept, wiped clean, sheets, curtains and cushion covers are all removed and put for wash. It is both scientific as well as ritual. The initial cleaning will be usually done by someone close or a well-known servant/staff after the famliy has left the house for the funeral. The cleaning isn't done by the family usually. Here, the linens are there as they are. It is like the family or staff didn't even have the opportunity to clean because there was so much chaos at the time.

Now after cleaning, the next process (after a few days) is the paperwork stuff. Some people are so organized that you don't have to search but for other people, you have to go through desks, drawers in order to find documents. There is life insurance, changing of bank accounts, investments etc. So many little details. That can be very confronting for many and it is not easy at all -- however, because practical details such as transferring bank accounts need to be done for ease, people cannot avoid these.

After that are the personal effects -- now in some families, they will split the favourite clothes and jewels for example among the daughters or daughter-in-laws. Things like that -- however, this can be an explosive time where so many arguments can occur. People are in the process of grieving and are not necessarily rational. Comments can be said which can turn into arguments.

Even if you are not splitting the personal effects, you have to figure out what to do with them. Are you going to donate to an ashram for example? Now, different families will have different timelines for figuring out what to do with the personal effects. There is no ritual that we have to figure this out by xx date. This means that some families choose to deal with the personal effects quickly as a matter of moving on while some families put it off for considerable lengths of time (including years) because they don't have the emotional strength to do it. Regardless, it is up to the family to decide when and it can't be imposed by another person.

In this case, Imlie unwittingly was forcing Aryan to confront his grief -- cleaning up the room should have been his decision and not hers. While it was just dust in her eyes, for him it was so much more. There were feelings there. Some people get mad even if you touch their stuff without asking as it feels like a violation of space. How much more you would feel when there is feeling attached to the room -- he wasn't ready yet but he is being forced by Imlie to look at his grief in the eye. Hence, the anger. The scene and preview reflects the anger of grief, the frustation of grief, the pain of grief.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Yes. I noticed that part too.

She didn't bother to ask permission to open that closed room from any of the Rathore family member. She just barged in. Which was totally an invasion but completely with accordance to her character. It's similar to how mindlessly she dealt with Arpita's trauma and even got praise for it

So in that particular scene, his anger was justified because she basically rubbed at his wound. But this is how she's going to deal with it so Let's brace ourselves.


But my post was about his contradictory behavior of both resisting and helping her at the same time. I wanted to know what was his state of mind and opinions of forum members about it😃

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Hope the other characters tell her off at some point for being a bit pushy? As for him being contradictory, it makes sense to me. 🤷‍♀️ Neither are in love with each other yet -- as in they are not aware they have feelings or even aware of each other as man and woman. So he does not want her poking into his grief but at the same time, he knows that unless she gets out of his hair, she will keep gnawing at him? She kind of sounds like an annoying kid that you can't get rid of hahahaha 🤷‍♀️

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Yes. She really is a very very annoying stubborn kid who doesn't even act her age which is even more annoying because she is even applauded for it.

He's kind of a culprit in This too since he lets her get her way no matter what

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Posted: 3 years ago
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@shabia1 -- had another thought this morning on why Aryan goes from resisting and helping her at the same time. He resists when she pokes his grief. He helps because he wants her to figure out on her own that Aditya and Tripathy family are toxic. No matter how much he explains, she will not get it. Imlie is one of those people who does not listen; she has to learn the hard way on her own in order to accept that another person's perspective may have value. So through the investigation, he may be hoping that she will finally learn that the great journalist was never that great.

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